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by TX_Shooter
Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:41 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX Rear Connector Contacts (J2)
Replies: 6
Views: 12743

APX Rear Connector Contacts (J2)

Anyone know: A) The Motorola part number is for the contacts to the J2 connector? B) What the real-world part number is for the same contact? C) What the part number or make/model is for the crimper of the same contact? I worked in avionics for years and got quite used to the phrase, "There's a...
by TX_Shooter
Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:24 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Quantar Question(s)
Replies: 6
Views: 3496

Re: Quantar Question(s)

I guess I don't understand your question. The worst that could happen is it won't work. Then you understand my question perfectly. lol. If they can't change it to 4-wire, then we'll have to use 2-wire and just deal with what they've got. This isn't our issue, it's theirs, so they'll just have to de...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:09 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: L3276 et al
Replies: 4
Views: 2049

Re: L3276 et al

I've seen an XTL5000 mobile inside of an XTL-5000 Consolette, and conversely an XTL7500 inside a Consolette, both of which could be channel-steered, but I suspect that was via a digital buss from the AIB. Correct. THAT kind of channel steering is happening on the SB9600 side of the house, and requi...
by TX_Shooter
Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:35 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Quantar Question(s)
Replies: 6
Views: 3496

Re: Quantar Question(s)

If I recall, you prefer 4W control for your telco system interface. That is a correct recollection, Bill_G. However, I may need to see about using the existing 2-wire interface setup if we can't get someone to change its inputs. What's the worst that can happen if I can't get someone to get in via ...
by TX_Shooter
Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:32 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: L3276 et al
Replies: 4
Views: 2049

Re: L3276 et al

XTL doesn't support external channel steering, so you're correct on that. I've seen an XTL5000 mobile inside of an XTL-5000 Consolette, and conversely an XTL7500 inside a Consolette, both of which could be channel-steered, but I suspect that was via a digital buss from the AIB. It shouldn't take mo...
by TX_Shooter
Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:45 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Quantar Question(s)
Replies: 6
Views: 3496

Re: Quantar Question(s)

Thank you, Bill_G. These are the photos he sent me. When I mentioned the RSS route, he somewhat hem-hawed making it seem that he would need to call out a Motorola tech and pay a fee, and by the way that they're talking about money issues already, that's not gonna happen, but he didn't actually get t...
by TX_Shooter
Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:02 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: L3276 et al
Replies: 4
Views: 2049

L3276 et al

Is there a difference between the L3276, L3276A, and L3276AC? I've got two manuals for the L3276 (6880802B90-O, 2003 and 2008), but neither shows how to connect an L3276AC to an XTL2500 radio (pin to pin), which apparently is how this base is able to connect 3 desktop units to it, all in parallel, b...
by TX_Shooter
Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:25 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Quantar Question(s)
Replies: 6
Views: 3496

Quantar Question(s)

Here we go again. My latest adventure takes me to an AFB that has one Quantar that they're thinking of re-appropriating for our Unify (Siemens) project; to be interfaced with our CSI Flex II Universal Radio Controller. Problem is, neither he nor I know very much about how to interface it for remote ...
by TX_Shooter
Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:57 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

Re: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

The "GP5_x" pins are the programmable pins, I believe any of which can be set for channel steering. You can choose active hi or low, so that's no issue. One potential issue in your proposed 2-relay setup is that I don't believe the radio will recognize "00" as being channel 1......
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:51 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Newer XTL5000 Consolettes
Replies: 6
Views: 2501

Re: Newer XTL5000 Consolettes

Please accept this in the spirit with which it is intended, as constructive criticism. It sounds like you guys walked into this job with no clue of what was needed to make your install work. In my opinion, you need a few changes in the future: (1) Sales should never make a quote without knowing the...
by TX_Shooter
Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:44 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Newer XTL5000 Consolettes
Replies: 6
Views: 2501

Re: Newer XTL5000 Consolettes

Why are you using a XTL5000 consolette with a W9, I thought that was only to be used with the digital junction box and related equipment like the MC3000? If you are tone controlling a consolette you should be using a W7 configured XTL5000. We're not tone controlling, and this is the radio that they...
by TX_Shooter
Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:59 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

Pin 21 solved our issue once we changed the "Recorder Output" setting to "RX+TX".
by TX_Shooter
Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:55 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

Pin 21 on the rear connector worked after we changed the setting to "RX+TX" for the Record Out.
by TX_Shooter
Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:14 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Newer XTL5000 Consolettes
Replies: 6
Views: 2501

Re: Newer XTL5000 Consolettes

Choppy heard where with what? And how did that compare to the front panel mic operation? (everybody place your bets - the consolette was programmed for an adjacent channel, or it was set for wideband, and they were listening on a customer portable because they did not have a service monitor to look...
by TX_Shooter
Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:31 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Newer XTL5000 Consolettes
Replies: 6
Views: 2501

Newer XTL5000 Consolettes

I'm confused, and seeking advice and/or input... I'm somewhat perplexed to discover that the newer XTL5000 Consolettes, which have the XTL5000 Mobile Radio inside of it, do not handle the TX Audio Input nearly as well as the previous Astro and Spectra mobile versions. For what audio we could get to ...
by TX_Shooter
Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:31 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?
Replies: 7
Views: 4469

Re: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?

Have the radio supplier provide you a programmed and assembled (including alignment) package. An alignment package?? Could you describe what that entails? Thanks, Shooter Disregard... the coffee hadn't kicked in when I read this early this morning. (Alignment package... sheesh!) Thanks, Shooter
by TX_Shooter
Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:30 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?
Replies: 7
Views: 4469

Re: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?

Have the radio supplier provide you a programmed and assembled (including alignment) package. An alignment package?? Could you describe what that entails? Thanks, Shooter Disregard... the coffee hadn't kicked in when I read this early this morning. (Alignment package... sheesh!) Thanks, Shooter
by TX_Shooter
Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:46 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?
Replies: 7
Views: 4469

Re: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?

RFguy wrote:Have the radio supplier provide you a programmed and assembled (including alignment) package.
An alignment package?? Could you describe what that entails?

Thanks,
Shooter
by TX_Shooter
Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:41 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?
Replies: 7
Views: 4469

Re: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?

What is going to be sending function tones to your adapter? There's no reason the L3276 wouldn't work as long as it's receiving the proper functions from the console...or in this case the PBX?? Well, we've got a few options on that. Our PBX can send the standard Motorola EIA Tones (TRC) to it via t...
by TX_Shooter
Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:14 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?
Replies: 7
Views: 4469

XPR 5550 Remote Adapter?

The Air National Guard base where I'm installing a telephone system is acquiring 3x Motorola XPR 5550 radios for their civilian equivalent emergency services (state police, county sheriff, local police departments, ambulatory services, etc., etc.,). I've opened other topics within this forum about h...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:17 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

Re: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

Wait, wait, wait, wait.... I just remembered... Our Siemens system employs the use of a 24 channel relay control board. The first 8 are being used to key these (plus others) radios, the next 4 are for ancillary controls, leaving 12 relays not used. Our programmer should be able to program the next 6...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:15 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

Re: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

What he's saying is the XPR uses binary encoding to channel select through the accy plug. Without the manual, I don't know if it's four bit or what, but let's assume four bit since it's fairly common. And I don't know if you take a line to ground or set it high to select it. Let's assume ground, an...
by TX_Shooter
Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:19 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Forum Icons
Replies: 2
Views: 1246

Re: Forum Icons

Beautimous!! Thank you. :)
by TX_Shooter
Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:45 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Forum Icons
Replies: 2
Views: 1246

Forum Icons

I performed a quick search of this website for "Icon" to help me find an answer, but it didn't turn up anything positive, or maybe it did I didn't catch it. What do the different icons mean on the left side of a person's post? When I 'Mouse Over' them, they just say either "No Unread ...
by TX_Shooter
Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:22 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: MC3000 Compatibility
Replies: 4
Views: 1798

MC3000 Compatibility

According to Motorola's Website, the MC3000 is compatible with: MCS2000® Model III, ASTRO® Digital Consolette W9, CDM Series Radios, iDEN® r750, and MTM700 Databox/ Motorcycle models. I'm curious... is it possible this MC3000 is compatible with other models, but perhaps has features or functions tha...
by TX_Shooter
Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:05 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

What I've done in the past to get the TX audio in similar situations (Astro Spectras) was to change out the desktop Spectra mic cable with a Maxtrac 8 pin cable. Plug the 8-pin cable into an RJ45 junction wall box, wire the Spectra cable into the box, and plug it into the radio. Tap a mic-hi and gr...
by TX_Shooter
Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:52 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

Re: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

As long as the CSI unit has binary outputs that mirror the function tone (the tone which indicates what 'channel' to change to) from the tone remote, you shouldn't have too much of an issue. You will definitely need the CPS, or have the dealer rep present with it, since it will be needed to program...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:03 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

J601 Rear Accessory Flex Connector: Table 7.5 in the service manual. Pin 30 on the 32 pin connector is Receiver filtered audio. Pin 32 is ground. That can be routed to a recorder input. This output is low level and independent of volume control ect. I have used a 2 uf non polarized capacitor and a ...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:01 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

Many of your questions are answered in the document that you have supplied a link to. The installation manual is a wealth of information. Maybe you could spend some time reading time reading it and not asking the simple questions that you seem to keep posting new threads on. As one that indicates t...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:48 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

escomm wrote:HKN6164A -
CABLE, ASSEMBLY,CABLE,REMOTE MOUNT,131 FT
I agree with Bill... that really IS a long truck. lol

Thanks for the part number. I'll pass this along to our customer. At $120/ea on shopwiscomm, it might help them with another scenario for a not-so-bad price.

-Shooter
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:43 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

Shooter - I don't know the absolute limit the trunk unit can be separated from the head, but let's assume it's not very far since the product was designed for a mobile application. I'm with you on that, and unfortunately, these were sold to be used in a non-mobile application. Since you are restric...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:00 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

Re: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

Update: We've spoken with the local Motorola Dealer on this, and they wanted to sell the customer a TRC adapter. Before they commit to purchasing an L3276, we're going to attempt to channel this radio via the CSI, which also has TRC capability. I will update this as soon as we are able to test... pr...
by TX_Shooter
Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:17 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

Yes, you can use a remote kit that includes the bezels and bits to make this work. Not sure if the remote kit depends on the type of head you have (O2, O5 or O7). The remote cables between the head and transceiver are the same (HKN6170, 10 ft, HKN6169, 17 ft, etc). Motorola's "APX Mobiles O2, ...
by TX_Shooter
Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:51 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

Re: APX-7500 Recorder Output

But, if it's in a mobile configuration, you get to McGuiver something. It's a mobile on a desktop HLN6042(?) speaker... no consolette on this one. Same as the XTL. Remote head with a HKN6187B cable. I'm not at all familiar with this APX radio... could the head that comes with the unit be removed fo...
by TX_Shooter
Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:38 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: APX-7500 Recorder Output
Replies: 22
Views: 8540

APX-7500 Recorder Output

Does anyone know or have actual experience feeding an APX7500 to a recorder in any way, analog or digital? If so, how?

Thanks,
Shooter
by TX_Shooter
Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:32 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

Re: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

CPS = Customer Programming Software If you don't have it, you don't have it. A quick Google search yielded nothing, but I have really limited BW where I'm at this week. Our customer (of the telephone system we're installing) says he has access to the Client Side(?) of the Motorola website. Would he...
by TX_Shooter
Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:33 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

Re: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

XPR5550 supports channel steering. Whether that toy you have can ground the pins to make the channel steer is another story. I think that I've read somewhere (perhaps on a similar model) that this radio uses E&M interfacing to control it, but without a manual, which won't arrive with the physic...
by TX_Shooter
Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:43 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

Bill_G wrote:Yep.

Been there, done that, got the tee shirt in three sizes, and several colors. Good luck.
I made an updated post to this early today... where did it go?
by TX_Shooter
Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:51 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?
Replies: 14
Views: 4362

XPR5550 Tone Channelling from CSI?

(I have no idea what sub-forum I need to pose this question to. Sorry if I put it in the wrong place.) Anyone here know if it is possible to steer the channeling of an XPR5550 via the tones of a CSI Flex II Universal Radio Adapter? An organization I'm working with has ordered 3 of them (not yet deli...
by TX_Shooter
Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:22 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

Turns out it is an APX-7500, and we've already proven that the TX audio is currently muted on the speaker output from the rear connector... they thought that they were recording both sides of the conversation using that as a connection. Turns out that they are only getting the RX on the recordings. ...
by TX_Shooter
Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:31 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

The only other choice is that agency gets their own stand alone radio that has no physical connection to your work. Then they would participate like any other user in the system, and they would hear both sides without having to modify anything. Your only concern would be isolation between the two a...
by TX_Shooter
Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:02 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

... to the best of my knowledge there is no way to keep from muting the speaker output when the radio goes into transmit. That is just the way all of the Motorola radios are designed to work. Believe your running down the wrong track if that is what your relying on to obtain TX mic audio from the l...
by TX_Shooter
Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:46 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

...I'd suggest that you add a Tone Termination Panel to it. Unfortunately, what ever radio or radio type that they have on site, we can not change it nor make recommendations to alter their radio setup at this stage of the game. All that we can do from this point is interface with what they have, o...
by TX_Shooter
Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:02 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

I think we still need to know what it is exactly that you have. There's no such animal as an XTL-7500; the 7500 is an APX series radio. I THINK you're wanting to interface an APX7500 mobile radio to your system... in which case I would probably add a 4-wire Tone Termination Panel to it. That way, i...
by TX_Shooter
Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:14 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

I think your first explanation threw a lot us. The drawing helped. Picture, 1000 words, etc. So, will a 2 wire bridge work for you? Bill, I'm not sure how you're picturing a 2-wire bridge in this particular case. Allow me to further explain, and then perhaps you can help me to understand your 2-wir...
by TX_Shooter
Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:31 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

Bill_G wrote:You could have mentioned you have a CSI Flex interconnect box between the PBX and the radio.

To be honest, most people I mention it to just give me a blank look, like I'm an alien speaking Zork or something. Also, it is somewhat irrelevant to my OP.

-Shooter
by TX_Shooter
Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:54 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

OK... since it appears that I'm not going to get an answer to my OP without having to explain the why's and reasons, I very quickly drew up an interface that we've done in the past. If you will, please, substitute the XTL-5000 consolette with EITHER the APX-7500 or the XTL-7500 for the purpose of th...
by TX_Shooter
Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:28 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

Gentlemen, I must apologize. At this stage in the game, I can't even confirm which radio our telephone system engineer meant to interface with... he describes it to be a mobile radio, but keeps calling it an "APX". When I posted my original question, I was under the impression that it was ...
by TX_Shooter
Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:34 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APX-7500 Speaker Output
Replies: 31
Views: 23498

Re: APX-7500 Speaker Output

Jim, We tie the radio to a telephone PBX device, then direct both the TX (sidetone) and RX side of the conversation to many 'turrets', but in this case we still need the 'real' operator to use it as a desktop unit as well as the PBX system. The PBX unit will handle the muting of the speaker local to...

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