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by Satelite
Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Just Bought a MaxTrac, confused about plug and internal chip.
Replies: 11
Views: 957

Re: Just Bought a MaxTrac, confused about plug and internal chip.

Hello: It was an option to turn on turn off the inversion scrambler in a maxtrac by double tapping the monitor button on radio when on. Obviously 1 tap turned private line off as in monitor mode and second tap would turn pl back on but also turned on scrambler. My first gut feeling also as jackhacke...
by Satelite
Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:21 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Just Bought a MaxTrac, confused about plug and internal chip.
Replies: 11
Views: 957

Re: Just Bought a MaxTrac, confused about plug and internal chip.

Hello: OOOOPS wow glad u guys corrected me. Didn't realize I had typed that as such . My mind was on 16 pin logic bds 16 pins and wow cant believe I said it but yes pin 10 of the 16 pin logic bd pins not pin 16. MY BAD Normally myself I just resolder a 1 or 2 amp fuse back in on the logic bd at JU80...
by Satelite
Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Just Bought a MaxTrac, confused about plug and internal chip.
Replies: 11
Views: 957

Re: Just Bought a MaxTrac, confused about plug and internal chip.

Hello Just an observation= The add on bd has a white sticker marked 025 which happens tp be a digital private line code . ????? And I'm reaching back many years when I repaired the maxtracs here but his model number he posted indicates its a maxtrac 300 series mobile with the high tier HLN9313 16 pi...
by Satelite
Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:26 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Maxtrac 144-174 split?
Replies: 5
Views: 827

Re: Maxtrac 144-174 split?

Hello: I'm confused. My American Motorola Maxtrac repair manual shows only: VHF range one as 136 to 162 MHz and VHF range two as 146 to 174 MHz for USA, Doesn't make much sense to make a radio for uncle sam in 136 to 150.8 MHz when VHF range one covered that plus. And 146 to 162 when usa has 136 to ...
by Satelite
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:13 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Maxtrac 144-174 split?
Replies: 5
Views: 827

Re: Maxtrac 144-174 split?

Hello: I'm not familiar with a 144 to 174 split but yes the 146 to 174 split but. I recall rf bd numbers 4322B and 4322C being pretty much the same bds just that the B and C was newer revision of bd only. However new revision could have given the 144 bottom end that I wont say yes or no because I ho...
by Satelite
Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:11 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Looking for a 2-tone decoder board
Replies: 11
Views: 960

Re: Looking for a 2-tone decoder board

Hello:
I'm not even going to say I'm sure what your actually needing but just out of curiousity.
Would a Motorola 2 tone decoder bd that was used in the Motorola p1225 or m1225 mobile work ?
I think ive got one if not two in parts bin as option for 2tone for m1225 and p1225.
Satelite
by Satelite
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:24 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Radius GP300 Five Tone P94YPC09C5AA
Replies: 3
Views: 568

Re: Radius GP300 Five Tone P94YPC09C5AA

Hello:
Didn't get all info on the one rf bd listed cant edit so add here.
HLE8062A is a 403 to 433 MHz rf bd at 12.5 kHz narrow band.
Satelite
by Satelite
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:16 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Radius GP300 Five Tone P94YPC09C5AA
Replies: 3
Views: 568

Re: Radius GP300 Five Tone P94YPC09C5AA

Hello: Its been awhile since I messed with a gp300 5 tone but as I recall . The transmit and rx were not programmed in the same area of the radio as you did the usa gp300 . Tx channels were in one spot for all tx freqs but you went to another spot to do all the receive freqs. And I do know for a fac...
by Satelite
Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:22 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Really OLD Motorola pager
Replies: 32
Views: 3280

Re: Really OLD Motorola pager

Yeah the post may be old but a NEW MEMBER did a search and found it because he had an old vibrator he was letting us all know about. And I bet postee wasn't around when cow thief pulled his crap which means he wouldn't have a clue about cow thief. So why dump on him ? My feeling is welcome to the bd...
by Satelite
Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:34 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Maratrac continuous duty transmit power?
Replies: 9
Views: 1019

Re: Maratrac continuous duty transmit power?

Hello: Just tossing this suggestion in for thoughts. Think I recall this has maybe already been done in the past and even think I read about it here on batlabs years back during monty siscos time period. Rest In Peace Monty. But I recall the heat sink on maxtracs being too small and others wanting m...
by Satelite
Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: So I bought a stack of Maxtrac's at my local junk show.
Replies: 7
Views: 994

Re: So I bought a stack of Maxtrac's at my local junk show.

Hello: Wow didn't expect to see a post on the Hydro MAX 99 Maxtrac. Well I do have a lot of info for you. First let it be known that the MAX99 radio software is no longer available from Motorola and hasn't been for years but your not dead in the water . Second the American maxtrac software in lo ban...
by Satelite
Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:32 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Difference between a RICK and $15 repeater interface?
Replies: 4
Views: 709

Re: Difference between a RICK and $15 repeater interface?

Hello: I too have used the RICK and well what was posted above is true. How ever I myself thought the RICK was a bit spendy and really majority of its abilities my end users could care less. I tried a few of the ebay repeater cables on GM300 narrow banders and got the one you could set the retransmi...
by Satelite
Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:55 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Radius P110
Replies: 7
Views: 1447

Re: Radius P110

Hello: Absolutely ill give you my hillbilly explanation. To understand this wide band known as 25 kHz wide and the new now law narrow band 12.5 kHz wide ill explain it as this. Lets just for now say the 25 kHz wide band is a signal transmitted at 25 inches wide in the air. And lets say narrow band 1...
by Satelite
Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:07 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Multi Band Antenna
Replies: 10
Views: 1547

Re: Multi Band Antenna

Hello: yeah I ran into the same issue with dual band applications with a few customers. But don't have an answer for all three bands. How ever I did offer them this option and there satisfied. Ebay auction 272506481525 Its a NMO mount 136 to 174 MHz with 2.5 db gain and a 400 to 470 MHz with 3.0 db ...
by Satelite
Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:09 am
Forum: Vehicle Radio Installs
Topic: Remote Mount kits for MaxTrac 300
Replies: 4
Views: 1070

Re: Remote Mount kits for MaxTrac 300

Hello: I realize this post is about 8 months old but have info for others in future. I do know for a fact that a remote mount kit was made for the Motorola Maxtrac. I thought it was even Motorola that made it but wont swear by that. I have installed several of these maxtrac remotes and heres the dif...
by Satelite
Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:03 am
Forum: Vehicle Radio Installs
Topic: Remote Mount kits for MaxTrac 300
Replies: 4
Views: 1070

Re: Remote Mount kits for MaxTrac 300

Hello: I realize this post is about 8 months old but have info for others in future. I do know for a fact that a remote mount kit was made for the Motorola Maxtrac. I thought it was even Motorola that made it but wont swear by that. I have installed several of these maxtrac remotes and heres the dif...
by Satelite
Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:15 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Visar- narrow band?
Replies: 20
Views: 1809

Re: Visar- narrow band?

Hello:
I posted a bit too soon and realized after i was 20 miles down the road that yes splinter freqs are used but not in vhf and uhf but are used in the 800 and 900 MHz visars.
My brain forgot about the 800 and 900 models - Oooops!
Satelite
by Satelite
Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:40 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Visar- narrow band?
Replies: 20
Views: 1809

Re: Visar- narrow band?

Hello: Well shoot I'm going to have to say this as a fact in my testing I just did. The Visar model number HO5KDD9AA4AN does do all the 12.5 freqs even the new added freqs per my testing just now. Yes I did find where you could set a channels as narrow band or wide band on a per ch basis so you coul...
by Satelite
Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:37 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Visar- narrow band?
Replies: 20
Views: 1809

Re: Visar- narrow band?

Hello: I looked at the visar models info here on batlabs and I think I'm right but here goes. I do have 3ct VHF 16ch visars all model number HO5KDD9AA4AN Ok if I got this right this model as all visars do Will do 12.5 narrow band and 25 wide band both as is from factory. But the splinter freqs I gat...
by Satelite
Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:13 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Visar- narrow band?
Replies: 20
Views: 1809

Re: Visar- narrow band?

Hello: I was thinking but not sure here but wasn't the visar ordered as narrow band or wide band so if it was ordered as wide band its always a wide band unless components changed ? I know for a fact the GP300 was ordered one or the other and was not by rss programmed one or the otheras an option pe...
by Satelite
Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:12 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Radio Shack Closing - Remaining Electronic Parts Sources?
Replies: 26
Views: 3792

Re: Radio Shack Closing - Remaining Electronic Parts Sources?

Hello: The Radio Shack store in Spencer Iowa is closing this march 2017 as well. Bob was not a radio shack full member store but rather a privately owned radio shack store. Some stores were radio shack others privately owned and paid to be a radio shack store I'm told. Bob too said the electronics e...
by Satelite
Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:11 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: GM350 is very loud and set on the last programmed channel after powering up
Replies: 1
Views: 457

Re: GM350 is very loud and set on the last programmed channel after powering up

Hello : Just speculating here as I'm not sure but isn't there a Backup memory capacitor or battery on the bd that saves the last settings upon power down ? Could it be the radio lost all the settings when the memory power went dead but chgd back up enough again to hold last settings when powered dow...
by Satelite
Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:17 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola P500 portable ????
Replies: 15
Views: 1581

Re: Motorola P500 portable ????

Hello: Well I'm bummed = wasn't what I was hoping the Motorola P500 portable would be. Well heres the info I can confirm. Motorola P500 model number H25RFF51B4AN is in fact a 800 MHz radio. The P500 is not strictly conventional and does do trunking format along with conventional both. However it doe...
by Satelite
Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:36 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola P500 portable ????
Replies: 15
Views: 1581

Re: Motorola P500 portable ????

Hello: Id agree from the picture of the P500 I bought but yet to receive in the mail that it does look like a P200 . But talking to another here on the bd with a bit more info than I have he was sorta leading it to be a 800 MHz as the rss program manual shows 800 MHz freqs in the pictures as example...
by Satelite
Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:44 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola P500 portable ????
Replies: 15
Views: 1581

Re: Motorola P500 portable ????

Hello:
Oooops The HVN9941B but did see an A was the rss program booklet for p500 conventional rss version R01.00.00
Satelite
by Satelite
Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:39 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola P500 portable ????
Replies: 15
Views: 1581

Re: Motorola P500 portable ????

Hello: Well that does make some sense on the 5 indicating 800 or 900 on this p500 radio as I'm finding references on postings talking about both 800 and 900 mhz. I have a 2012 rss / cps listing on Motorola programs and on this list it does mention rss program RVH4134B not A dated 7-27-2001 release t...
by Satelite
Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:17 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola P500 portable ????
Replies: 15
Views: 1581

Re: Motorola P500 portable ????

Hello: Heres a few things ill add for consideration. I have seen the Motorola p500 rss program manual on ebay and it definitely says conventional and no mention of trunking on the cover. I did yesterday during an extensive search run into a post that told how to convert the Motorola P500 into the ha...
by Satelite
Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:37 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola P500 portable ????
Replies: 15
Views: 1581

Motorola P500 portable ????

Hello: I'm told Motorola made a conventional only portable called the P500. What band was it for ? I'm wondering if it was a 800 MHz or 900 MHz ? Model number of the one I'm asking about is H25RFF51B4AN . How many watts and channels and freq spread on this radio ? Anybody know anything about It ? Th...
by Satelite
Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:18 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Ribless cable for P1225 question
Replies: 2
Views: 599

Re: Ribless cable for P1225 question

Hello: I have a ebay bought P1225 ribless programmer and its basicly a battery case with no cells in it with the ribless components inside with the cable to computer fitting on the end. And this ribless battery programmer also has the black and red power leads to accept a power supply set at 7 volts...
by Satelite
Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:12 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Ribless cable for P1225 question
Replies: 2
Views: 599

Re: Ribless cable for P1225 question

Hello: I have a ebay bought P1225 ribless programmer and its basicly a battery case with no cells in it with the ribless components inside with the cable to computer fitting on the end. And this ribless battery programmer also has the black and red power leads to accept a power supply set at 7 volts...
by Satelite
Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Re: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello Maxtrac: Don't think anyone else here saw one either soooo ??? If I'm right the ebay seller was over seas seller so maybe the 44.845 was used out side the usa version gm300 mobiles ???? Have not a clue but we did see the ebay auction that was posted above with them stating Motorola mobiles ???...
by Satelite
Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:34 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Re: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello Max-trac The postings title was a bit misleading but as it was read it then became apparent the 44.645 receive crystal was being compared to a 44.845 rx crystal a ebay seller was selling. But no mention of a 44.685 MHz crystal in any Motorola repair manual that I and others couldn't find. Appa...
by Satelite
Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:49 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Maxtrac To A 99ch Maxtrac Qestions.
Replies: 3
Views: 721

Re: Maxtrac To A 99ch Maxtrac Qestions.

Hello: Yes if I was blanking a 99ch maxtrac id suspect id blank and save tuning values with extended code plug per the extra memory but I actually blanked a USA 16ch version so I went ahead and tried blanking with extended option but the lab informed me error extended blank not accessible due to nor...
by Satelite
Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:42 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Maxtrac To A 99ch Maxtrac Qestions.
Replies: 3
Views: 721

Maxtrac To A 99ch Maxtrac Qestions.

Hello: I'm in the process of taking a Motorola maxtrac 16ch 42 to 50 MHz American version lo band 60 watt mobile to a Canadian Maxtrac Hydro Division MAX99 mobile by blanking and conversion. I do have everything to do this as ive done it before several years back. So needed firmware and software is ...
by Satelite
Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:20 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: GM300 Problem. Flashing TX
Replies: 9
Views: 1415

Re: GM300 Problem. Flashing TX

Hello: The GM300 8ch has a soldered in eprom. The 16 ch has a 28 pin eprom in a 28 pin socket just as the maxtrac 300 16ch mobiles have. I have his exact GM300 vhf 16 ch model number he posted and I have opened it up to confirm this. So he could easily swap an eprom to see if it came back to working...
by Satelite
Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:13 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: GM300 Problem. Flashing TX
Replies: 9
Views: 1415

Re: GM300 Problem. Flashing TX

Hello: That's a good call jack Hackett -I hadn't thought about the eprom - I bow before you :-) The eprom that jackhackett is referring to is used in both the GM300 VHF and UHF mobiles that have 16 channel capability in there build. The 8ch GM300 will not use this same eprom chip. Eprom V25.01 part ...
by Satelite
Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:12 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: GM300 Problem. Flashing TX
Replies: 9
Views: 1415

Re: GM300 Problem. Flashing TX

Hello: Probably would help if you gave the model number and what freqs you entered to be sure its in band. I'm assuming its a VHF and likely in band programming. So ill toss out a possibility to check. The radio has a cpu crystal that needs to fire up properly to work. This is Y801 on the bd and ope...
by Satelite
Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:03 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Solid Brass HT-220
Replies: 4
Views: 1304

Re: Solid Brass HT-220

Hello I looked at description and it states hollow antennae and radio knobs unscrew off the radio. I'm thinking from that statement its a solid brass radio as in a prop and doesn't actually work. And if I saw well enough the brass antenna was threaded metal to metal with what appears to me anyway no...
by Satelite
Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:13 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Re: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello jackhackett
Well then that solves that now I know so been answered for me.
Thank you for your courteous polite answers.
Satelite
by Satelite
Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:20 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Re: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello jackhackett: I wondered about a couple of the above other than the if filters. I was thinking the if filters would still be fine since still in the same bandwidth radio operated in so ill have to rethink that one. And I was thinking radio would need a different rss to match a 44.845 crystal ov...
by Satelite
Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:44 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Re: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello; I do see a 45.3 listed for the gm300 model number . For example M44GMR29C3A was one I came up with from the graph which I googled with no results so tried m34 and m43 and m33 as well with no hits from google. I also dug out my gm300 repair manual and looked at every rf bd schematics and found...
by Satelite
Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:20 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Re: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello jackhackett Dang it yes my ooops. I thought I had corrected all the wrong crystal freqs. But your correct I'm really meaning to say 44.645 versus 44.845 not 44.685. Wish I could blame it on too much bud light but I'm not much of drinker so must be old age :-) And I thank you for the link ill g...
by Satelite
Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:03 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Re: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello jackhackett: Yes hes ebay seller electronicsweet2012 His auction title is: Radio Accessories 16 Channel Machine Receiving Crystal For Motorola GM300 44.845 Ebay auction number 112156078837 If you look at picture of the crystal it does indeed say 44.845 not 44.645. Wonder how far off the differ...
by Satelite
Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:58 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles
Replies: 15
Views: 1636

Motorola recieve crystal 44.645 in mobiles

Hello: Several of the Motorola mobiles use a 44.645 crystal for the receive oscillator . for examples GM300 and Maxtracs. My question is on flea bay I have been seeing an auction that has for sale a 44.685 crystal they claim is the Motorola rx crystal. Ive only seen the 44.645 crystal in the Motorol...
by Satelite
Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:17 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: FREE MANUALS!
Replies: 3
Views: 776

Re: FREE MANUALS!

Hello:
Id be more than interested in the manuals.
Those I'm not in need ill toss back up to batlab members so all get used.
Let me know if I'm in luck here.
Satelite
by Satelite
Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:57 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: MSI GMRS Radio
Replies: 6
Views: 1089

Re: MSI GMRS Radio

Hello
I was not totally sure it was a Maxon myself.
just clarifying.
satelite
by Satelite
Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:56 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: MSI GMRS Radio
Replies: 6
Views: 1089

Re: MSI GMRS Radio

Hello:
I did a search myself and info I found indicated possibly it was a Maxon 1 ch 1 watt portable but I was not totally sure myself.
But maxon got mentioned above so I threw it in for thoughts.
Satelite
by Satelite
Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:55 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: MSI GMRS Radio
Replies: 6
Views: 1089

Re: MSI GMRS Radio

Hello:
I did a search myself and info I found indicated possibly it was a Maxon 1 ch 1 watt portable but I was totally sure myself.
But maxon got mentioned above so I threw it in for thoughts.
Satelite
by Satelite
Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:39 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Using DOS In Programming an HT1000
Replies: 9
Views: 1828

Re: Using DOS In Programming an HT1000

Hello: And I couldn't agree with you more . I personaly have refurbished/repaired several dos lap tops just for this very reason above. The best option is a Pure DOS 6.2 computer period. Motorola specs was dos 6.2 running at no faster than 25 MHz clock speed. And they had a reason for it -- IT WORKE...
by Satelite
Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:22 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: GP900 Charger Fried...
Replies: 3
Views: 732

Re: GP900 Charger Fried...

Hello
More I think on it you might be referring to a ceramic resistor block that most are white in color but they too work on the same principle as above and you should be able to replace with either style with correct specs and work again.
Can test same way as above as well.
Satelite

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