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by 515
Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:08 pm
Forum: Vehicle Radio Installs
Topic: Scanner blown, RF'd, overloaded. Solutions?
Replies: 17
Views: 3028

Warren, Have you used that ICE unit on a scanner receiving 800 MHz? Their web page indicates the Model 198 Limiter is rated 30-500 MHz, but I'm curious what the insertion loss is around 800 MHz. I send ICE an email, but haven't got a response yet... I'm glad this thread appeared, as I'm in the proce...
by 515
Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:04 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Help with Astro Saber II
Replies: 1
Views: 270

The 09/10 basically means the radio can't talk to the encryption module, either because there is a problem with the module, or it's simply not installed. Most likely, the encryption module isn't installed. To fix this, you'll need to read and re-program the radio. In the RSS/CPS secure options, ther...
by 515
Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:25 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: NAC Question
Replies: 7
Views: 642

NAC F7E is supposed to be a 'wildcard' NAC, allowing unmute on any received NAC. If you're using conventional talkgroups, make sure you use the 'wildcard' talkgroup of 65535 with it for digital CSQ functionality. Motorola's original version of Digital CSQ worked fine for receiving, but forced the ra...
by 515
Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:00 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Astro DIU-3000 to Quantar configuration
Replies: 20
Views: 2032

I've seen an installation with that Zetron WorldPatch connected to a DIU, and it worked fine. The only thing you won't be able to do with the V.24 link is have analog radio users use the phone patch. The repeater could still repeat analog if you programmed it to, but the phone patch would never hear...
by 515
Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:59 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Astro DIU-3000 to Quantar configuration
Replies: 20
Views: 2032

You can use the DIU's built in V.24 interface with digital clear or encrypted voice no problem... Your DIU will need the appropriate crypto module, though. If you use V.24, your Quantars will need optional V.24 cards, which attach to the wireline cards. The Quantar V.24 cards will add a couple of RJ...
by 515
Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:25 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Daniels P25 Repeater
Replies: 10
Views: 1039

Yeah, that's pretty much how I understand it... It seems most of their market is natural resource agencies that often don't require much encryption and have a lot of solar powered sites. I think they even call most of their repeaters "mountian top repeaters". If I had to use a VHF Daniels P25 repeat...
by 515
Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:02 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Daniels P25 Repeater
Replies: 10
Views: 1039

As far as I know, the Daniels P25 repeaters still use Astro Saber or XTS3000 vocon boards in their transmitter and receiver modules. I understand they do have custom/modified firmware in them, though. All of the Daniels P25 repeaters I've worked with had vocoding capabilities built in. I believe the...
by 515
Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:13 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Talkgroups, where to setup?
Replies: 1
Views: 385

I'm sure no talkgroups are set up in the Quantar... The only thing the Quantar needs is the Network ID (NAC). Of course you will need to set up your XTS3000s to use talkgroups. Make sure the "Squelch Type" is set to selective squelch so that they only hear their selected talkgroup. Also, I highly re...
by 515
Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:08 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Several Astro / Mixed Mode questions
Replies: 30
Views: 2236

It should be easy to set up the console and repeater for selectable analog/digital dispatcher transmissions. The harder part will be getting the selection to be automatic, or to have any kind of indication to the dispatcher which mode is currently being received. For dispatcher transmissions, the DI...
by 515
Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:00 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Help on setting up 9000 head and MPL with a Spectra
Replies: 4
Views: 246

Press and hold the MPL button, and you should be able to use the up/down arrows to scroll through your PL list. Press Home when you've selected your tone.

You'll also probably notice you can turn MPL on and off during a transmission by pressing the MPL button.
by 515
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:41 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Adding AES to a 123ABC1234 XTS5000
Replies: 5
Views: 763

Basically, the 123ABC1234 XTS5000's firmware can be updated the same way a normal XTS5000 can with a "Firmware Refresh I-Button" from Motorola. It appears Motorola is having to give quite a few of these out to owners of "normal XTS5000's" to give them features they need that were not available in th...
by 515
Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:17 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Adding AES to a 123ABC1234 XTS5000
Replies: 5
Views: 763

Thanks for the advice. I went for it, and ordered the AES/DES module. It installed with no problems at all. The package came with everything necessary: the module, illustrated installation instructions, and foam rubber pads. I initially overlooked the fact that this 123ABC1234 radio did not have the...
by 515
Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:45 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Adding AES to a 123ABC1234 XTS5000
Replies: 5
Views: 763

Adding AES to a 123ABC1234 XTS5000

Has anyone tried adding an AES module to one of those "alpha" series XTS5000 radios? The radio I'd like to try this on currently has a DES-XL/DES-OFB module in it, and works great. Initial firmware of the radio was R02.somthing. The firmware has since been updated to R04.something. I don't have the ...
by 515
Wed May 04, 2005 7:48 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Newbie Astro questions
Replies: 12
Views: 992

The advantages an "Astro Ready" flashed Astro Spectra has over an analog Spectra that I can think of are: -255 modes (instead of 128) -2.5 kHz deviation narrowband FM -a high/low power button -if you have a newer RF board, 6.25 kHz channel spacing (freqs like 155.62125 MHz). -some additional button ...
by 515
Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:54 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Using a CPI deskset with Quantar
Replies: 1
Views: 231

If you are using the Quantar in the digital mode, you'll need to connect your tone remote to the "CONSOLE" connector on the DIU. As far as I know, all DIU's come standard with a tone remote interface there. It can be configured via the RSS for 2-wire or 4-wire operation. The DIU is pretty versatile ...
by 515
Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:48 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Encryption Issues With New Quantar - HELP!
Replies: 9
Views: 634

I believe Motorola dropped support for 12 kbps DES/Securenet in the Quantar two or three years ago. I'm pretty sure an older Quantar will pass 12 kbps DES, and after reprogramming, P25 DES-OFB as well. I know it wasn't possible for the repeater to support both formats at the same time. You basically...
by 515
Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:15 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: OT - defualt Nac for EFJ Stealth25???
Replies: 7
Views: 442

The newer EFJ PC Configure has the "Digital Squelch" checkbox near the RX NAC field. I can't remember if PC Trunk had the same thing, though. But if PC Trunk does, "Digital Squelch" really means "Digital Carrier Squelch". If you have the option of checking it, ideally the radio will unmute on any NA...
by 515
Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:37 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: OT - defualt Nac for EFJ Stealth25???
Replies: 7
Views: 442

It's been awhile since I played with a Stealth-25, but 3966 is definitely worth a try along with talkgroup 65535 which should give you "Digital CSQ" receive. It is possible the radio's firmware doesn't properly implement F7E/3966, though. If there is a checkbox in the PC Trunk programming software c...
by 515
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:46 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: EMC and Firmware Upgrade Compatability
Replies: 13
Views: 672

How do you know if the secure module in a radio is a UCM, or the older non-upgradeable type? Since it looks like one can purchase an AES/DES-OFB/DES-XL/DES combo UCM (option G851) for the Astro Spectra, has anyone ever tried installing one in an Astro Saber and successfully using AES? Surely you'd n...
by 515
Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:07 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: EMC and Firmware Upgrade Compatability
Replies: 13
Views: 672

I don't remember exactly, but I think my radio showed all three "KG# NONE" when I tried to use the non-supported CKR mode. Encryption definitely wasn't functional in that case... Doug's comment about the UCM clears up something for me, though. It all makes sense now... I always wondered why you had ...
by 515
Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:24 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: EMC and Firmware Upgrade Compatability
Replies: 13
Views: 672

I bet you had CKR key management enabled in the radio's codeplug... If you don't need to use a CKR KVL or an OTAR system, you should be able to turn CKR key management off in the radio's codeplug, and your EMC 2.12 module should work fine in that radio. That "EMC TOO OLD" was the exact error I got w...
by 515
Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:33 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: EMC and Firmware Upgrade Compatability
Replies: 13
Views: 672

Mike, For what it's worth, the Astro Saber I bought from you last week (Host 5/DSP 6) works just fine with the EMC 3.46 OFB/XL module I installed in it. My other Astro Saber had Host 7/DSP 8 in it, and worked fine in PID/ASN mode with an EMC 2.12 OFB/XL module. CKR key management would not work with...
by 515
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:51 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: New 2975 firmware available
Replies: 21
Views: 1828

I'm sure Wowbagger can provide more info on this, but I have used a 2975 to decode the P25 "Digital DTMF" data. The "P25 Logger" or "P25 Data Logger" (I forget what it was called) option is required on the 2975 to do this. From what I remember, you basically put the unit into "logger" mode, and set ...
by 515
Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:58 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Jedi /Voting/ Scan
Replies: 11
Views: 1294

I got to play with an Astro Spectra with the "Vote Scan" option a while back. The feature is really intended for use on a voted system that consists of multiple repeaters spread throughout a desired coverage area. Each repeater would have a different output freq (so their coverage can overlap), and ...
by 515
Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:03 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Astro Network ID
Replies: 14
Views: 1569

According to the latest Project 25 spec, NAC F7E is the current 'wildcard' NAC value, but its not exactly "Digital CSQ". If F7E is entered in the RX Network ID field, the radio should unmute on any NAC. For true "Digital CSQ" functionality, you'll need to use F7E in conjunction with talkgroup 65535,...
by 515
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:30 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: OT - Thales P25
Replies: 28
Views: 2178

Do the other radios hear the squelch tail when the Technisonic unkeys, or does the Technisonic produce a squelch tail when the other radios unkey? The Thales 25 / Racal 25 will send a reverse burst when transmitting a CTCSS tone. From what I've seen, Motorola Astro mobiles and portables are compatib...
by 515
Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:49 am
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: XTS5000 Call and Page problem
Replies: 5
Views: 959

There's not really a way to make the Astro "Page" function work reliably on a conventional channel when the radio you are trying to page is scanning. The problem is the page data packet sent by the radio is very short--about 90 milliseconds long. So depending on how many channels are in your scan li...
by 515
Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:35 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTS5000: Latest Firmware Now Supports Live ASTRO Dialing!!!
Replies: 17
Views: 1507

The agency I work for has several conventional P25 systems that use "P25 DTMF", and it works great... It's a very necessary feature to control phone patches, weather stations, alarms, etc. The conventional XTS5000's I've worked with always supported P25 DTMF, but not in "live dialing" mode. The XTS3...
by 515
Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:45 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: 10-95 - Ribless Cable / Any Progress?
Replies: 42
Views: 8159

I just tried reading an XTS5000 with an EFJ 5100 cable, and it didn't work. I then tried reading it with the Motorola RKN4106A, and it worked fine. The DB-9 end of the EFJ 5100 cable doesn't have any components in it. The radio end of the EFJ 5100 cable didn't have any components that were connected...
by 515
Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:42 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: CKR/ASN/Multikey and keyloading
Replies: 33
Views: 10628

Now - as to CKR, I don't think you can start out with a CKR=2000 because as I understand it the whole point is 'Common Key Reference'. When you have your keyloader in Astro25 mode you can choose which key to load [by its CKR] but you don't get to choose which location in the radio that key gets loa...
by 515
Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:10 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: CKR/ASN/Multikey and keyloading
Replies: 33
Views: 10628

I have a lot of the same questions everyone here does, but I can add this: My Astro Saber has very new host/DSP software, but an older DES-XL/DES-OFB module in it (EMC 2.12). I have to load my radio with a KVL3000 using ASN mode. Because my encryption module is so old, if I try and enable CKR key ma...
by 515
Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:33 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Decoding astro nac codes
Replies: 6
Views: 634

I assume you are talking about decoding the NAC off the air... If so, a P25 service monitor is about the only way to go. I'm not sure if the DIU can decode the NAC or not, but even if it could, you would still need a Quantar to use as a receiver. Not cheap. If your desire is only to listen, you can ...
by 515
Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:15 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: EMC / UCM Firmware Versions
Replies: 4
Views: 671

Part #: NTN8967C
Fits: Digital Saber/Spectra
Algorithms: DES-OFB / DES-XL
Firmware: R03.47
by 515
Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:15 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Digital Quantar w/ analog and digital radios
Replies: 13
Views: 1421

You can easily set the Quantar for mixed mode repeat operation. If it hears an analog signal, it will repeat in analog. If it hears a digital signal, it will repeat in digital. Of course only one mode can be used at a time... I would avoid using a second frequency for digital, for both legal and tec...
by 515
Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:55 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: QUANTAR P25 ?????
Replies: 3
Views: 590

You'll need a Motorola DIU3000 to do either one of those things. There is no VSELP or IMBE decoder built in to any Quantar. You will also need either a V.24 interface card or 9.6kbps Astro Modem for the wireline board in your Quantar. Either one of these can be used to connect the DIU3000 to the Qua...
by 515
Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:29 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: APCO 25 Software decoding?
Replies: 13
Views: 1301

A P25 signal is 4 level FSK, but I don't think a 4-level "data slicer" would be that useful for decoding it... If you look at a P25 signal from an analog radio's discriminator on a scope, you'll see it doesn't look anything at all like a 4 level Flex/Reflex pager transmission. The P25 waveform is ve...
by 515
Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:36 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Saber / Astro Lithium Ion Battery Pic
Replies: 13
Views: 2218

"7.2V LITHIUM ION BATTERY" is what is stamped on to the bottom of the NTN8818.

I think the reduced power is mainly due to the limited output current of a lithium ion battery.
by 515
Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:14 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: User selectable MPL on Astro Spectra
Replies: 7
Views: 634

If there's an Astro Spectra that supports MPL, I haven't seen it. And I've seen a lot of Astro Spectras... I have seen new Astro Spectras shipped with a MPL button included in the bag of extra buttons, but still never seen an Astro Spectra that really supports it. Many analog Spectras support MPL th...
by 515
Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:07 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Saber / Astro Lithium Ion Battery Pic
Replies: 13
Views: 2218

I never seen a NTN4592C, so I'm not sure how the size compares. The only other Saber battery I'm familiar with is the pictured NTN4595...
by 515
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:07 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Saber / Astro Lithium Ion Battery Pic
Replies: 13
Views: 2218

I just fixed the link to the pic in my previous post...

Also want to mention that I have two of those Motorola lithium-ion Astro Saber batteries now, and would never consider going back to the Ni-Cd's. The lithium-ion battery really makes the radio a light and practical one.
by 515
Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:45 am
Forum: Vehicle Radio Installs
Topic: Help with 2000 Chevy Truck Install
Replies: 13
Views: 2576

Just wanted to edit my previous post to update the pic location, and add pics of the latest installation in this vehicle. Since my first post, I have swapped the W7 Spectra for a W9 high power model. The control cable easily fit under the floor board. I did have to drill two holes in the W9 radio un...
by 515
Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:37 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: OT: Anyone use the Datron Guardian series
Replies: 2
Views: 362

The portable seems well built, and uses XTS batteries and chargers. The ones I've seen don't have any kind of low-battery warning indicator at all--no audible chirps, no "LO BATT" display, no nothing! I'd like to know why they think one isn't necessary... When the battery is low, the Guardian portab...
by 515
Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:57 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Non Moto/MaCom P25 portable...what are the options?
Replies: 3
Views: 553

Most of my experience is with VHF/UHF conventional P25 equipment, so hopefully others will share their what they've seen with the 800 MHz trunking stuff... Thales (aka Racal) only make a VHF portable at this time... It's a solid radio that works pretty well as long as you order it with the Motorola ...
by 515
Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:44 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: DIU 3000 Pin-outs
Replies: 1
Views: 289

The DIU has a RJ-45 jack on the front labeled "COMPUTER". When looking into this jack (looking at the front of the DIU), pin 8 is the left-most pin, and pin 1 is the right-most pin. According to the Owners Manual 68P02949C65-A, the following rib-less cable is used for programming the DIU: It's just ...
by 515
Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:02 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Is this P25 Repeater Okay??????
Replies: 17
Views: 1878

I've worked with the Daniels P25 repeaters some. They work pretty well, but they are really designed for use with solar power. There is definitely more of a key up delay on the Daniels than there is on the Quantar. I'm guessing this is because they have some power saving "sleep mode" like some porta...
by 515
Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:34 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Mitrek Consolette Pinout Question
Replies: 3
Views: 260

Thanks Glen,

That's what I was afraid of...
by 515
Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:23 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Mitrek Consolette Pinout Question
Replies: 3
Views: 260

Mitrek Consolette Pinout Question

I'm hoping this is an easy question for anyone with an old Mitrek Consolette manual... What is the function of TB1, terminal 10, on a Mitrek Consolette? Monty posted a picture of the two terminal blocks a while back, but the function of terminal 10 isn't labeled on it. There is an Alert Central two-...
by 515
Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:07 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: How to tell if it is an astro Spectra or not
Replies: 7
Views: 510

As Alex said, the model number check would probably be the easiest way to find out. All of the 110W Astro Spectras I've seen had the same "Motorola SPECTRA" label silkscreened on the drawer unit that the analog ones did. If it's an Astro, it may be an Astro Spectra Plus, and require different CPS an...
by 515
Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:14 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Anybody know what this is?
Replies: 11
Views: 793

I'm guessing its a sprinkler system controller, too.

I've seen lots of these that use the mobile "fin" style antennas mounted on the top of the enclosure.

The yagi is probably pointing back to the base controller, even though the building is in the path.
by 515
Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:33 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTS5000 Question
Replies: 26
Views: 2641

I got to test a pre-release VHF XTS5000 with FPP enabled several months ago. No "key" was required to go into FPP mode. All P25 EFJ equipment, the Thales/Racal 25, and Datron Guardian do not require a key either. The BK DPH (Digital BK) still requires the same key the old ones did. The XTS5000 and E...

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