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Quantar important part numbers

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Quantar important part numbers

Postby batdude » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:00 pm

Since there seems to be enuf confusion on the matter, I am going to submit this list to try to help those of you out there who are trying to ID the band/range on used quantars.

As you know (or should know) - all quantar repeaters are labelled with "T5365" - this is the generic model # - and short of reading the codeplug, there is nothing obvious to ID the band/range.

USA Quantars come in the following flavors:

VHF Range 1 - 132-154
VHF Range 2 - 150-174 (these do work in the ham band down to abt 146)

UHF Range 0 - 380-433
UHF Range 1 - 403-433
UHF Range 2 - 440-470
UHF Range 3 - 470-494 (100w max)
UHF Range 4 - 494-520 (100w max)


First clue:

Receiver module front panel....

800/900 units have NO TUNING HOLES

UHF units have THREE TUNING SLUGS - but usually have FIVE HOLES (look closely) - only the middle three holes have slugs in them to turn

VHF units have FIVE TUNING SLUGS


the above lets you tentatively ID the unit and determine if more exploration is required before your wallet comes out!



The easiest way I have found is to look at the rear of the unit and get the part number off of the PA. It is usually visible without removing the module. There are two different numbers you may encounter - the parts used during the factory build - and - if any modules have been replaced with FRU's (Field Replaceable Units) - you'll see a different part #.....

PA part numbers: (keep in mind that both parts are the same components - just one is a FRU and the other is the factory build/original)

TLD3110 - 25w 132-174
TLN3255 VHF 25w R1/R2 FRU

TLD3101 - 125w 132-154
TLN3379 VHF 125w R1 FRU

TLD3202 - 125w 150-174
TLN3254 VHF 125w R2 FRU

TLE2731 - 25w UHF R1 (403-433)
TLN3443 UHF 25w R1

TLE2732 - 25w UHF R2 (440-470)
(NO FRU Listed...?)

CTX1146 - 110w UHF R0 (380-433)
DLN1216 UHF 110w R0 FRU

TTE2061 - 110w UHF R1 (403-433)
(NO FRU Listed...?)

TTE2062 - 110w UHF R2 (440-470)
TLN3446 UHF 110w R2

TTE2063 - 110w UHF R3 (470-490)
(NO FRU Listed...?)

TTE2064 - 110w UHF R4 (490-520)
TLN3450 UHF 100w R4 FRU

TLF1940 800 MHz 20w
TLN3441 800 MHz 20w FRU

TLF1930 800 MHz 100w
TLN3442 800 MHz 100w FRU

TLF1800 900 MHz 100w
TLN3299 900 MHz 100w FRU


Ok, so you couldn't find a number on the PA, but you could on the exciter? Cool.... But to make matters even more confusing, the manual references a THIRD part # for the module in the "factory option matrix" - at least one of these (CLD1260) - crosses to the TLN3251 in MOL...so the CLXXXXX numbers below are relevant to this post....but most do NOT cross in MOL. Bottom line here is that any of the three part numbers could possibly be found on a quantar module - and - most importantly, they all ID the same component....

TLD9831 VHF R1
TLN3252 VHF R1 Exciter FRU
CLD1270 **

TLD9832 VHF R2
TLN3253 VHF R2 Exciter FRU
CLD1280 **

CLX4000 UHF R0 (380-433)
DLN1214 UHF R0 Exciter FRU
CLX1000 **

TLE5971 UHF R1
TLN3305 UHF R1 Exciter FRU
CLE1230 **

TLE5972 UHF R2
TLN3306 UHF R2 Exciter FRU
CLE1240 **

TLE5973 UHF R3
TLN3375 UHF R3 Exciter FRU
CLE1210 **

TLE5974 UHF R4
TLN3376 UHF R4 Exciter FRU
CLE1220 **

TLF6920 800 MHz
TLN3307 800 MHz Exciter FRU
CLF1510 **

TLF6930 900 MHz
TLN3308 900 MHz Exciter FRU
CLF1520 **


and finally, the receiver module itself... to ID the bandsplit...

each receiver module is made up of the receiver itself and the preselector...same thing goes below for the CLXXXXX parts....

TRD6361 R1 Receiver
TFD6511 R1 Preselector
TLN3250 R1 Receiver FRU
CLD1250 **

TRD6362 R2 Receiver
TFR6512 R2 Preselector
TLN3251 R2 Receiver FRU
CLD1260 **


CRX4022 UHF R0 Receiver
CRX4001 UHF R0 Preselector
DLN1215 UHF R0 Receiver FRU
CRX1027 **

TRE6281 UHF R1 Receiver
TLE5991 UHF R1 Preselector
TLN3313 UHF R1 Receiver FRU
CLE1190 **

TRE6282 UHF R2 Receiver
TLE5992 UHF R2 Preselector
TLN3314 UHF R2 Receiver FRU
CLE1200 **

TRE6283 UHF R3 Receiver
TLE5993 UHF R3 Preselector
TLN3373 UHF R3 Receiver FRU
CLE1210 **

TRE6284 UHF R4 Receiver
TLE5993 UHF R4 Preselector (notice same as R3)
TLN3374 UHF R4 Receiver FRU
CLE1220 **

TRF6551 800 Receiver
TLN3315 800 Receiver FRU
CLF1530 **

TRF6552 900 Receiver
TLN3316 900 Receiver FRU
CLF1540 **



I think i have previously posted my take on the quantar station control modules....there are enuf of those to elicit an hour or two of work trying to figure out what each is capable of.....

all of this is pretty much moot if you can power up the station and read the codeplug.... but i'm sure someone out there can use this list.

i'll update this later with some info on power supplies, Astro Modems /V.24, etc.....

enjoy


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Postby CTAMontrose » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:20 pm

STICKY THIS!

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Postby tvsjr » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:41 pm

grem467 wrote:STICKY THIS!


I'll second the motion.

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Postby Dan562 » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:05 pm

CTX1146 - 110w UHF R0 (380-433)

DLN1216 UHF 110w R0 FRU


The Kit and the FRU are only FCC Type accepted for Astro Narrow Bandwidth mode in Range 0.

Sticky this information in your personal memory bank.

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Postby MattSR » Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:52 pm

Awesome post...

Does anyone know an easy way to determine if a Quantar is IBME or not?

Thanks

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Postby Bruce1807 » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:20 pm

firmware starting with 20.xx.xxx to begin with.

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby kk6rq » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:38 pm

The only # someone selling a UHF Quantar could give me was CAEWYG081F from the back
of the exciter. They said they saw nothing on the back of the receiver module.

Does this mean anything to anybody?

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:53 am

Yeah, it's the module's serial number. They all have them, everywhere and on everything. Some sort of new coding system.

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby KG4FOY » Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:53 am

receiver preselector is TFD6512A, anyone know what range of VHF it it?

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:27 am

http://www.preferredwireless.com/equipm ... a_1041.cfm

VHF for a Cross-band Nucleus 900 Paging Station.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby KG4FOY » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:24 am

also do the quantar / quantro repeaters take take the same control modules?

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:03 pm

Possibly, but a good read of the two manuals is required.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby The Pager Geek » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:37 pm

KG4FOY wrote:receiver preselector is TFD6512A, anyone know what range of VHF it it?


Per MOL, Range 2 High Band

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby escomm » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:19 pm

KG4FOY wrote:also do the quantar / quantro repeaters take take the same control modules?

yes the station type is determined in RSS via drop down menu

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby Bill_G » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:11 am

Does anyone know the part number of the AC plug adapter that attaches to the backplane?

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:44 am

It's been deleted. Remove it and the two screws and plug your cord directly into the PSU.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby Bill_G » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:50 am

Aha! That's why I can't find it. Alright. Thanks.

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:07 am

It had some weird issues with a certain combination of modules and their versions (age), so it was eliminated. Ya just gotta remember to push the AC cable out the back plane prior to slamming home a new PSU. Then it'll be big time OOPS.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby Bill_G » Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:25 am

Yeah. I can see where that would be a problem. We are staging a new system originally planned to be 48vdc. But, the customer had to trim the budget, deleted the charger and batteries, and we had already received the dc stations. We are swapping out the dc ps modules for ac, and I would love to make the backplanes factory, but doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:08 am

Backplanes are all the same. It's only the different dohookies that are screwed on or plugged in. Did you get reverting PSU's or plain old's?
I'd leave the DC cable in them and tied up. If reverting's were provided, you can install batteries later when they figure out what value they'd bring to the table.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby Bill_G » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:34 am

Nah. Plain old. No batt backup. I voted to install 48V supplies in the rack in anticipation of a future "system upgrade", but got no where. Mine is not to question why ...

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:00 pm

Then I'd leave the Batt cables tie-wrapped up and walk out. Should good sense eventually appear, they're available.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby escomm » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:16 am

Boy these were a pain in the ass to find:

DC Cable: TRN5155A
DC Cable to Quantar PS Adapter: 3084989T03

Suspect you don't need to shell out $100 for the TRN5155, just the anderson power poles, some cable, and the fuses if you really feel the need.

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby motorola_otaku » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:37 am

escomm wrote:DC Cable: TRN5155A

That's the same cable that the MSF station uses. See also: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97257

On the 900 Quant I have sitting behind me the 3084989T03 cable has about 10 feet of extra wire coiled up and zip-tied to the back of the chassis. No clue why they felt the need to do that except maybe to get to the outside of a large cabinet, but when this station goes on the air I had planned on cutting the Powerpole off and wiring it directly to the battery through a 80A ANL fuse.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:15 am

I've got quite a few of the 'unknown' part numbers (like the Velcro strap thingy one of our guys snapped) but am on vacation at the moment. Will scan my notations, but don't know how to post them here.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby bezking » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:28 am

Patrick,

If you'd like to scan and email to me (bezking@radioreference.com), I can host and make sure they don't go away.
The bandsplit is only a suggestion.

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:21 pm

Will do. Look for something next week....
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby escomm » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:47 pm

motorola_otaku wrote:
escomm wrote:DC Cable: TRN5155A

That's the same cable that the MSF station uses. See also: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97257

On the 900 Quant I have sitting behind me the 3084989T03 cable has about 10 feet of extra wire coiled up and zip-tied to the back of the chassis. No clue why they felt the need to do that except maybe to get to the outside of a large cabinet, but when this station goes on the air I had planned on cutting the Powerpole off and wiring it directly to the battery through a 80A ANL fuse.

Yep and actually I don't even think there is anything too special about TRN5155 cable except maybe the fuse? Certainly don't see why it's over $100 list except that for a $25000 station its easy to overcharge for components and accessories......

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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby Will » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:41 pm

Power Supply fan.

Here is the part number for the power supply fan: ADDA Fans AD0912HB-A73GL-LF

This is the 92 mm X 20mm fan with the tachometer leads.

Onan power supply 3-70506-0000 Mot# 01-84906T04.
The integrated circuit thermistor in the Onan power supply is a Honeywell TD5, Digi-Key Part Number 480-2017-ND
About 2100 ohms with a 1.55 voltage across it at 90 deg. I have photos.
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby pforbes » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:21 pm

Thanks. Those pesky roundtoit's will be my demise.....
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Re: Quantar important part numbers

Postby DarkHelmet » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:15 am

I'm wondering if anyone has a concise list of the various power supplies for the Quantar. I've assembled the following, but it's in no way complete.

Code: Select all

Partnumber      Description       Motorola  Watts?
CPN1031         48/60v input           yes     600
CPN1049         AC no charger          yes     265
CPN1050         AC with Charger        yes     265
CPN1047         AC no charger          yes     625
CPN1048         AC with Charger        yes     625
TRN7802         12/24v DC               no     210
TRN7803         48/60v input            no     210
TRN7801         24v input               no     600
CPN1042         AC                      no     700
TPN6185         AC with Charger         ?      625
TPN1186      


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