MW-800 Product Information

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MW-800 Product Information

Postby Pj » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:49 pm

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IMPORTANT FSB NOTICE!!!!
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Apparently there is/was a bad HD heater flex shipped in MW's since the beginning of production (or close to it). I do know know when the actual change was made, but if your MW800 (5206, 5207 models) do not like to be turned on in cold weather, its due to a defective heater flex. This is covered by FSB10176A. Download or obtain a copy, and just ship your MW to the depot address listed on the FSB describing that your MW doesn't turn on in cold weather until the CPU box warms up enough. There is NO CHARGE for this FSB, as it is covered under warranty service.

Be advised though, your HD may come back with a "Software refresh" (IE, drive formatted and "restored").

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From the Motorola press release:
The Motorola Mobile Workstation 800 (MW 800) is Motorola’s highest-performing and most ruggedized data computing solution. Available in early 2003, the MW 800 has a Pentium® IV 1.7 GHz processor and its memory can range from 256MG to 1GB. A single CPU can support dual displays and keyboards and two simultaneous independent applications. The CPU can also sustain multiple internal radios including private wide area modems, 802.11B, Bluetooth™, and GPS. The MW 800 also offers digital VCR capabilities allowing users to download/upload videos to a server.


The MW800 replaced the MW520 series 3-piece computers. The MW800 is a P4 based system. SVGA was a standard screen resoultion with XGA more common. The standard screen size was increased to 12.1 inches. An 8.4" SVGA display is available, however.

The MW800 display keys can be utilized as "hot keys" using the Motorola "ExtraKey" application. This application does not work on the MW-520, which has its own verison of "ExtraKey" as does the MW810.

The MW810 is the latest release of the MW series. Many of the functions are the same/similar, but the internal hardware has been updated. Please see the MW810 post for information.

MW800 has "F" part numbers that appear like MW520 models. A F5206 is actually a MW800 CPU. The MW520 stopped at F5205.

A fully optioned MW800 F5206 may contain:

Video In 50 Ohm BNC
Wired LAN 10/100
Wireless LAN (W-LAN)
RF Modem (W-WAN)
Internal GPS (Trimble Lassen SKII/SK8)
USB 1.1 - Two ports on the display, one on the CPU
9pin serial port
Audio in/out
Support for two displays
Auxillary port (allows ignition switching, aux 12v/5v inputs and outputs, etc)
Bluetooth (supported in the display)
1 Cardbus slot
Firewire port

A fully optioned MW800 F5207 may contain:

Video In 50 Ohm BNC
Wired LAN 10/100
Wireless LAN (W-LAN) (B/G)
RF Modem (W-WAN) (DataTAC, iDEN, etc)
Internal GPS (Trimble iQ)
USB 2.0 - Two ports on the display, two on the CPU
9pin serial port
Audio in/out
Support for two displays
Auxillary port (allows ignition switching, aux 12v/5v inputs and outputs, etc)
Bluetooth (supported in the display)
1 Cardbus slot
Firewire port

The MW800 comes with a red backlit USB keyboard that normally plugs into the MW display. The keyboard connector has two screws which allows the plug to be secured into the display. Any USB keyboard should work if you do not like the one that comes standard. Replacement Motorola keyboards list at $300.

The MW800 uses a single laptop 200 pin PC2100 266MHz DDR memory module. The unit will offically support up to 1GB of memory. Larger modules have not been tested.

5206 vs 5207

The 5207 MW800 is an updated 5206 with some modified hardware. The system board replaced the internal CF card slot with a mini-PCI slot, and a SIM card slot has been added just above the PC Card slot. On the rear, attached dust covers and an additional USB port have been added. Another change is that the 2nd display connector is now DVI based, but does not support the usual DVI connector. Part numbers for the cables will be forthcomming. The AUX connector has also been changed from a DB15 to a narrow centronics connector, like the monitor connectors. USB on the CPU is now 2.0. The display remains 1.1 for all model MW800s due to the USB interface in the display.

The GPS was changed with the F5207 to the Trimble iQ from the Trimble Lassen SK8/SKII. The connector header has changed, but the GPS is located in the same spot.

Need drivers?
For the F5206:
https://docs.symbol.com/downloads/F5206A%20Drivers.zip

For the F5207 and the F5217:
https://docs.symbol.com/downloads/F5207 ... rt_Kit.iso

The 5206 uses the following:
Chipset: Via Hypervision 4 in 1 (Via USBF 110 Driver update recommended as well for USB?)
Audio: Via AC97
Wifi: Symbol Wireless PPC 2002
Serial Communications: Oxford OX16C95x
Video Capture: Conexant
Video: S3 Super Savage (SSAV5333?)

The 5207 uses the following:

Audio: SoundMAX (Cadenza?)
Video: Intel Extreme Graphics (915GM or 915GML chipset I believe)
LAN: IntelPRO
WLAN: IntelPRO (2200BG)
Video Capture: Conexant
Chipset: Unknown (figuring Intel as the rest is)
Bluetooth: BluePC (if display is BT capable)

F5217 vs the F5207

The F5217 is a modified F5207. It uses the uBlox SBR-LS-0-000 dead reckoning GPS in place of the Trimble iQ GPS. In addition it will support up to a 1.8GHz Pentium 4M CPU. The motherboard is also slightly modified to accept the uBlox GPS (the header is different) and contains a gryo. The uBlox GPS supports DGPS and 16 sats. To fully use the dead reckoning features you must purchase the auxillary input/output cable and connect it to the vehicle speed sensor and backup lights. With the onboard DGPS, the uBlox GPS provides very accurate location information even in dense cities based on personal observation.

The F5217 was called the "Mobile Gateway". It has 3 10/100 LAN ports, a second DB9 serial port, 3 USB 2.0 ports. This option deleted the firewire port and the 2nd display option. The unit is still capable of an internal wireless card (mini-PCI), an iDEN or DataTac internal modem.

The AUX connector functions are also changed and only allows for ignition switching and speed inputs for the GPS.

The software drivers are the same as the 5207.

COM Port Assignments

Although there is only one physical COM port, this is how it breaks down, and should be assigned as below. Prevent problems now!

Default COM port assignments F5206/F5207:
COM 1 - Hardware serial port 1
COM 2 - Internal GPS
COM 3 - Internal iDEN or PRM240 data modem
COM 4 - Internal connection for the CPU Diagnostic program/MPS codeplug manager. This is the data connection that the Motorola MW800 software uses to change CPU settings, health, etc.

Default COM port assignments F5217:
COM 1 - Hardware serial port 1
COM 2 - Internal GPS
COM 3 - Internal iDEN or PRM240 data modem
COM 4 - Hardware serial port 2
COM 5 - Internal connection for the CPU Diagnostic program/MPS codeplug manager. This is the data connection that the Motorola MW800 software uses to change CPU settings, health, etc.

Misc information - PRM240 DataTAC modem
The interal DataTAC modem is manufactured by Wavenet in the land of the Fosters Beer. The name of the series is "Boomer" and it appears that they make quite a few PRM240 sized modems that may work on EVDO, iDEN and other networks. If you can get your hands on one of these other modems, perhaps it could work in place of the PRM. I wouldn't see why not. iDEN and other similar modems have been offered as options in the past. The PRM240 DataTAC modem supports all the usual Motorola Data standards (MDC, 9.6/19.2 etc).

The PRM240 modem is programmed via WinRSS and supports a limited AT command set if you were to bring up local terminal. The following are the only known commands to work with this modem:

AT\C = Coldstart
AT\U3 = Native Mode
ATI1 = SW Version
ATI4 = SW DDate
AT\B2 to AT\B7 to change the serial port baud rate from (12200 baud to 38400 baud).

AUX connector default pin assignments

1 IGNITION_MODE 12V DC Ignition sense input from ignition key
2 INPUT1 Digital input TTL (5V) level
3 INPUT2 Digital input TTL level
4 OUTPUT1 Digital output TTL level
5 OUTPUT2 Digital output TTL level
6 DSC_EN Aux Radio Enable input signal
7 DSC-UPLINK Radio Output
8 DSC-DOWNLINK Radio Input
9 +12V Output power. Maximum 2 Amps. Output inhibits when CPU box temperature is above operating range
10 +12V Output power. Maximum 2 Amps. Output inhibits when CPU box temperature is above operating range
11 N.C -
12 GND Ground
13 GND Ground
14 MONITOR_MODE Service input signal
15 +5V Output power. Maximum 2 Amps. Output is automatically disconnected when CPU box temperature is above operating range

Motorola has pretty much locked down internal replacement parts for the MW making 99% of them "depot only" items. Most customers CANNOT order these and/or will not show up on parts search. Even if you want a $10 cable, they will only "sell" you the part if you send it to the depot ($$$).

Adding GPS to 5207
The unit uses the same GPS as the ML900, the Trimble iQ. That part is approx $99 but can be had on eBay or any Trimble dealer for +/-$25. As this GPS is physically different than the SKII used in the 5206 but the CPU box wasn't retooled, the following will be needed to properly install the GPS unit:

3087568V12 - GPS Cable (outside terminates to a SMA connector)
FHN6647A - GPS Mounting Kit

Pricing
The following contract price for an agency for the MW800 configured below is $5724:
MW800 Mobile Data Workstation, 1.8GHz Pentium M, Windows XP PRO, 1GB
DDRAM, 12.1" SVGA Touch Screen, 9.6" Cable, 35 Watt DataTac VRM.

Option prices:
VA00044 COLOR DISPLAY 12.1" XGA 1200NIT STD. TOUCH $2,236
VA00255 60GB Hard Drive W/WIN XP PRO $80
V056 MOUNTING TRUNNION, CPU $21
V145 INTERNAL GPS RECEIVER $360

Option Codes
VA000????? - CPU Box with 1.5GHz CPU (F5207 option)
VA00036AA - CPU Box with 1.7GHz Intel Processor (F5206 only?)
VA00037AA-P-4 - CPU Box with 2.2GHz Intel Processor (F5207 option?)
VA00067AA - CPU Box with 1.8GHz Celeron Processor (F5207 option?)
VA00258 - 1.5GHZ PENTIUM-M PROCESSOR, 2MB CACHE (F5207 option?)
VA00261 - 1.8GHZ PENTIUM-M PROCESSOR, 2MB CACHE (F5207 option)
VA00262 - 1.3GHZ CELERON-M PROCESSOR (F5207 option?)

VA00044 COLOR DISPLAY 12.1" XGA 1200NIT STD. TOUCH
VA00255 60GB Hard Drive W/WIN XP PRO
V056 MOUNTING TRUNNION, CPU
V145 INTERNAL GPS RECEIVER

Random part numbers:

F2333A - RF Modem, Private DataTAC 806-825MHz (FCC ID PQS-BM28001)
0187506V03/8489751U01 - CPU to motherboard flex connector
FLN3232A - 1.7GHz CPU
FCN8960B - Motherboard
3002823C31 - GPS cable - MW800 to antenna (CBL ASSY,COAX,5MM L,SMA,TNC,RG316 - External) (5206A) (TD3002823C69 also seen)
3087568V12 - GPS cable, Internal (CBL ASSY,RF,COAX,1COND,190MM L,SMA BULKHEAD,RF FEMALE,CB - Internal) (5206A)
0187506V02 - Heater Flex (HDD)
1188096U37 - Adhesive Pad (Used with HDD flex/pad)
7588373V90 - Pad, Heater
7589412V01 - Pad, Heater, Small
0189968V66 - 80GB HD

6802967C30 - Mobile Workstation MW 800 Owner’s Manual

All the displays will work with each model on the primary port. Only difference is that you will need a different monitor cable for the 5207 for the 2nd display (due to the change in 2nd display connector). This does not effect the 5206 which uses the same connector for display 1 and display 2.

DISPLAY'S
FLN3221 - Color Display 8.4" SVGA 350NIT
FLN3062A - Color Display 12.1" SVGA 300NIT, Without Bluetooth
FLN3063A - Color Display 12.1" XGA 1200NIT, Without Bluetooth
FLN3157 - Color Display 12.1" SVGA 300NIT , Without Bluetooth
FLN3167 - Color Display 12.1" XGA 1200NIT, Without Bluetooth
FLN3168 - Color Display 12.1" SVGA 300NIT, With Bluetooth
FLN3169 - Color Display 12.1" XGA 1200NIT, With Bluetooth
FLN3135B -Color Display 12.1" XGA 1200NIT, Possibly with Bluetooth

DISPLAY CABLES
FKN8131B - 1.6FT
FKN8068B - 4.5FT
FKN8069B - 9.6FT
FKN8143A - 12FT
FKN8070B - 17FT

FKN8307A - ASSY,CBL,,,17FT(5.6M) CPU 2ND TO 12.1" DISP (Not sure what difference, if any than above. Above cables should work with the 2nd display if equipped - may be for the 5207 CPUs)

MISC CABLES
FKN8144A - 1.6FT(0.5M) CPU TO STD. SCREEN (Allows the CPU to be used with a "normal" monitor - MW800 to DB15)
FKN8081A - LINE OUT CABLE ADAPTOR (Secure standard audio cable...connector has screws to secure it to the rear of CPU)
FKN8090A - 1.6FT(0.5M) LAPTOP TO MW800 DISPLAY
FKN8340A - ASSY,CBL,,,EXT. SPKR CBL ADAPTOR
HSN4035C - Mobile Speaker Kit
FKN8201A - KEYBOARD EXTENDER CABLE , USB 6FT
FKN8338A - ASSY,CBL,,,9.6FT(3.0M) AUX CBL 26/OPEN
This cable brings out the auxilliary connections in the F5207 and F5217 modules. This will bring out mic in, speaker out, +5vDC +12vDC, voltage in for the general purpose I/O 0&1, USB and some other misc stuff. On the F5217, the USB is replaced by speedometer inputs. Same cable works for both. Cable terminates into 26 flying leads. The pin outs are documented in the F5207/F5217 CPU Owners Manual 6802976C60-O which can be downloaded on motorola.com

KEYBOARD
FLN9890A - KEYBOARD,USB, BACKLIT,US, MW800

MICROPHONE
FLN2957A -MICROPHONE EXTERNAL MW520

MOUNTING KITS
FHN6388A - MOUNTING TRUNNION
FLN3304A - BALL JOINT CRADLE W/BASE & VESA PLATE

CONVERTER
FLN2955A - CONVERTER, USB TO 4 RS232 (Edgeport)

Images

The CPU on the top is a 5206, 5207 on the bottom
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Internal top shot of the 5206. CPU and fans are located on the left. The memory module is located on this side, under the mainboad. The PRM240 is at the top center under the flex. the CF Wifi card is located bottom center with the GPS on the bottom right.

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Internal top shot of the 5207. The cradle for a modem is located in the same spot, as well as the the location for the GPS. The bottom left slot is for a SIM card. It can be accessed without removing the cover via the PC Card slot door.

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Top shot and rear view of the F5217

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Re: MW-800 Product Information

Postby whirley12 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:49 am

where can I buy some ram for my 800. no matter what I do, it still won't fire up. Don
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Re: MW-800 Product Information

Postby Pj » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:56 pm

The MW800 uses a single laptop 200 pin PC2100 266MHz DDR memory module. The unit will offically support up to 1GB of memory. Larger modules have not been tested.
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