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900 MHz XTL5000 question: Wide Band capable?

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900 MHz XTL5000 question: Wide Band capable?

Postby n6fnp » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:16 pm

I'm looking at getting a 900 MHz XTL radio for use on the 900 Ham band. I was told by someone
that has one that they are only Narrrow Band. Is this the case, or can they be programmed or
flashed to do both Wide and Narrow Band?

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Re: 900 MHz XTL5000 question: Wide Band capable?

Postby MSS-Dave » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:18 am

I don't have a 900 MHz codeplug to open to test this for sure but.... working in the industry maintaining 900 MHz commercial stuff since the mid 90's on mostly Motorola but including GE/Ericsson/ M/A-Com and others, I've found wide band isn't an option. As the XTL is a commercial radio, I'm reasonably sure that it will default to the 2.5 K deviation on transmit setting and won't allow you to change it. The RX front end is optimized for narrow band as well.

EDIT... Meant to say the IF section not RX front end. That would be optimized to work between 896 and 901 MHz

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Re: 900 MHz XTL5000 question: Wide Band capable?

Postby nukedude » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:18 am

Might be worth a call to Motorola. I had a bunch of VHF and UHF MotoTrbo radios that were locked down to narrowband in CPS. I had to go through the Motorola "narrowband training" Powerpoint presentation. And then get Entitlement ID's for the CPS. When I entered this into each computer, they confirmed with a server at Motorola, that I had been through the "training". Then wideband was allowed once again.
These were radios that require both wide and narrow channels.
It may be the same on the XTL series. Has been a while since needing wideband on an XTL for me. They are all narrow in the building I am in right now.

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Re: 900 MHz XTL5000 question: Wide Band capable?

Postby KG4INW » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:49 pm

Astro25 CPS doesn't need an EID for wideband. Instead, it's a Flashcode item that limits radios to narrow band. That said, I don't know if the 900 XTLs can be made to be WB but would be curious to find out as well.

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Re: 900 MHz XTL5000 question: Wide Band capable?

Postby Will » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:09 pm

Ham band 900 uses 2.5k dev just like Commercial systems.

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Re: 900 MHz XTL5000 question: Wide Band capable?

Postby n6fnp » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:23 pm

Hi Will,


We have Ham repeaters in my area that are Wide Band. There are some that are Narrow Band, but many are Wide.

This is why I need to find a solution so that an XTL2500/5000 can have channels programmed for either Wide or Narrow.

I have a 900 MCS2000 mobile and an EF Johnson 5100 HT which can have channels programmed for either Wide or Narrow.



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