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Secure boards restrict 12.5 operation ?

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SD70MAC
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Secure boards restrict 12.5 operation ?

Postby SD70MAC » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:16 pm

Do certain secure boards in an XTS5000 restrict you from narrow band ? I think the radio has DES XL ?
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Re: Secure boards restrict 12.5 operation ?

Postby kt2728 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:19 pm

you cannot use des-xl in securenet mode on non-astro channels in 12.5kHz. you will have to go astro or wide band non astro.
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Re: Secure boards restrict 12.5 operation ?

Postby SD70MAC » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:27 pm

That's what it was looking like to me too, but I wanted to check. Thanks for the reply.
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XTS5000 VHF FPP,XTS3000 VHF M1&M3,XTVA,XTS2500 UHF Q FPP,Astro Spectra"s W3 VHF,W9 VHF,W7 800,HT1250 35-50,XPR4500 Q,2 CDM1550LS+ VHF 160ch,CDM1550 X 160ch VHF 25w,MAXTRAC 42-50 32ch,CDM1250 42-54

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Re: Secure boards restrict 12.5 operation ?

Postby tvsjr » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:18 pm

To be clear, the board isn't the restriction. You have the channel set to Securenet encryption (DES/DES-XL) and Select or Secure strapping, which requires 5KHz deviation. Set the channel to clear and it'll work fine.

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Re: Secure boards restrict 12.5 operation ?

Postby SD70MAC » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:31 pm

tvsjr wrote:To be clear, the board isn't the restriction. You have the channel set to Securenet encryption (DES/DES-XL) and Select or Secure strapping, which requires 5KHz deviation. Set the channel to clear and it'll work fine.



Thanks for the help
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XTS5000 VHF FPP,XTS3000 VHF M1&M3,XTVA,XTS2500 UHF Q FPP,Astro Spectra"s W3 VHF,W9 VHF,W7 800,HT1250 35-50,XPR4500 Q,2 CDM1550LS+ VHF 160ch,CDM1550 X 160ch VHF 25w,MAXTRAC 42-50 32ch,CDM1250 42-54

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Re: Secure boards restrict 12.5 operation ?

Postby eagle_scout » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:03 pm

Sorry to dig this up post up but im new here and this post is answering some of my questions. I want to confirm that our Astro Saber radios with DES will work on Astro Programmed channels. I see this being important when programming every thing. So i think I should figure out how to enable and set Astro Mode on all the 12.5k channels that need DES to be operational. So far it looks like the radios go into Astro Mode when you select channel bank B. I have access to the old computer that can program these radios, i just don't know enough yet to mess with it.
thanks every one!
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