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XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

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XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby g8tzl2004 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:46 am

I have just acquired an XTL1500 which has a built in speaker. It came with no accessory cable but you can see that an accessory plug had been connected given wear to the accessory fixing screw holes.

All the accessory plugs I have are for "external speaker" XTL2500's and XTL5000's.

I have not yet powered up the XTL1500.

I think you can disable ignition sense in CPS..but I guess you need to power up the radio to reprogram it?

So maybe I will initially need the ignition sense connected to power up the radio in order to reprogram it?

What happens if I connect my "XTL5000" accessory plug (with ignition sense and external speaker) to the XTL1500?

Does the XTL1500 just ignore the external speaker?

Are there any other links in an "XTL5000" accessory plug which could cause an issue with the XTL1500?

Thanks

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby Bill_G » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:03 pm

You will need the emergency switch loop installed in the accy plug to get the radio to ignore the ign sense lead.

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What radios do you own?: APX,XTS2500,XTL2500,XTL1500

Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby N4DES » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:27 am

The internal speaker has its limitations, especially in an automobile environment, and audio quality is better using the external one. In an office environment the front facing speaker is adequate.

Depending on the application you might want to think about it.

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby g8tzl2004 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:01 am

Do I need to disable the internal XTL1500 speaker before I connect up an external speaker?

What happens if I use my XTL5000 accessory plug (including the external speaker and ignition sense) WITH the XTL1500 internal speaker still connected?

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby Bill_G » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:38 am

g8tzl2004 wrote:Do I need to disable the internal XTL1500 speaker before I connect up an external speaker?

What happens if I use my XTL5000 accessory plug (including the external speaker and ignition sense) WITH the XTL1500 internal speaker still connected?


Probably nothing.

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby g8tzl2004 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:34 pm

Does that mean that its OK to use my "XTL2500/5000" accessory plug with an external speaker connected with my XTL1500 radio? It will not blow the audio amp or anything given that the XTL1500's internal speaker is still connected?

Will I actually get audio out of both the internal and external speaker at the same time? I think that is what happens with my CDM.

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby Bill_G » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:15 am

g8tzl2004 wrote:Does that mean that its OK to use my "XTL2500/5000" accessory plug with an external speaker connected with my XTL1500 radio? It will not blow the audio amp or anything given that the XTL1500's internal speaker is still connected?

Will I actually get audio out of both the internal and external speaker at the same time? I think that is what happens with my CDM.


If you are really worried about it, go buy a pin tool, and take the speaker out of the accy plug.

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby jackhackett » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:21 am

Bill_G wrote:If you are really worried about it, go buy a pin tool, and take the speaker out of the accy plug.


There should be a molex type quick disconnect plug on the speaker leads, you just need to unplug it.

According to the spec sheets and installation instructions (both available online, GIYF) the XTL1500 takes a 8 ohm 7.5 watt external speaker. The XTL2500 and XTL5000 can take either the 8 ohm speaker or a 3.2 ohm 13 watt speaker, so you'd have to determine which speaker you have and if it's the higher wattage one don't use it on the 1500.

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby g8tzl2004 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:51 am

OK thanks.

As there is no hardware difference in the main body between an XTL1500, XTL2500 and XTL5000, why is there a difference in the external speaker impedance requirement?

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby g8tzl2004 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:55 am

Maybe its something to do with the XTL1500 internal and external speaker being connected at the same time. Assuming both have an 8 ohm impedance, in parallel this will be equivalent to 4 ohm?

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Re: XTL1500 - do you need red ignition sense cable?

Postby jackhackett » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:06 am

From the Basic Service Manual:
"The audio PA is a bridge amplifier with a 3.2-ohm minimum impedance"

The internal speaker is 20 ohm / 4W.


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