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XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:46 am
by JeffFireRadio
Yikes, went to order another one of these and it's listed as a 'B' version already. Seems like they just started shipping this brand new product a few months ago, but it has probably been just short of a year already. Does anyone know what changed or what was wrong with the original 'A' model that precipitated the change? Thanks.

P.S. Did I just use 'precipitated' in a sentence?

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:50 pm
by fyrmdc
I just tried to order some of these to replace current XE RSMs and my shipping date is now January 2018. Do you think there might be bigger issues?

Dave

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:19 pm
by resqguy911
fyrmdc wrote:I just tried to order some of these to replace current XE RSMs and my shipping date is now January 2018. Do you think there might be bigger issues?

Dave


XE RSMs on FM radios or UL?

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:10 am
by fyrmdc
resqguy911 wrote:
fyrmdc wrote:I just tried to order some of these to replace current XE RSMs and my shipping date is now January 2018. Do you think there might be bigger issues?

Dave


XE RSMs on FM radios or UL?


Looking to use them on APX6000XEs. The original XE style RSMs are not lasting 2 years before they fail.

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:22 am
by RFguy
fyrmdc wrote:I just tried to order some of these to replace current XE RSMs and my shipping date is now January 2018. Do you think there might be bigger issues?

Dave


We've had some in order for 4 to 5 months and they keep pushing out the ship date.

Yes, there's a bigger issue.

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:26 am
by N4DES
We just did a bunch of internal testing with the XE500 and not very impressed with the performance.
The ruggedized Commander outperformed it in transmit audio quality, even in a high noise environment, without all the bells and whistles.

M

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:41 pm
by resqguy911
fyrmdc wrote:
resqguy911 wrote:
fyrmdc wrote:I just tried to order some of these to replace current XE RSMs and my shipping date is now January 2018. Do you think there might be bigger issues?

Dave


XE RSMs on FM radios or UL?


Looking to use them on APX6000XEs. The original XE style RSMs are not lasting 2 years before they fail.


Again: FM radios or UL?

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:30 am
by fyrmdc
Again: FM radios or UL?[/quote]

FM radios. Sorry, I had to look them up and am playing in Texas right now.

Dave

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:24 pm
by The Pager Geek
N4DES wrote:We just did a bunch of internal testing with the XE500 and not very impressed with the performance.
The ruggedized Commander outperformed it in transmit audio quality, even in a high noise environment, without all the bells and whistles.

M


Which mic did you select instead of the XE500? (Model?)

tpg

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:49 am
by JeffFireRadio
Bump. Anyone have any details on the A vs B revision differences yet?

I just noticed that there is a new PMMN4107 mic (same, but no channel knob) that seems to replace the old XE RSM. Any feedback on those from current users?

Thanks.

- Jeff

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:01 am
by fyrmdc
I just got the following email from my sales manager regarding the XE500 RSM. Looks like they are still trying to figure them out:

"I just heard back from the accessories group - you can still order, the Black version is OK, but they are enhancing the green version again."

Dave

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:56 am
by motorola_otaku
We just got 10 B-revision mics in a couple of weeks ago. I don't have any A-revision mics to test with, but in head-to-head competition with a standard NNTN8203 XE RSM the XE500 sounded noticeably clearer, with better highs (treble.) I also had an NMN6271A XP RSM to test with and it sounded close, if not identical to the XE500. This was with no changes made to the APX audio profiles from our baseline modified configuration.

One crazy thing I noticed with the XE500 mics: you can hold them at any angle up to arm's length from your face and it will still produce clear audio.

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:27 am
by JeffFireRadio
Thanks for the replies and your time. Looking forward to hearing more from other users.

- Jeff

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:37 am
by a1emt
We have a large fleet of the first generation XE Speaker Mics, with Xtreme temp cords. Have served well in the two years being in service.

When the XE500's first came out, our regional /\/\ rep gave us two to evaluate. One was given to the Shift BCs and one to my busiest truck company. Within two weeks, both had apparent mic cord failures, where they would not connect to the radio. Shortly after they stopped shipping them. On the positive side, the 5 microphones on the XE500 provided notably better audio on analog and P25. I would not hesitate to use them again once the cord issue is figured out.

Jim

Re: XE500 Speaker Mic (PMMN4106), Revision B

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:46 am
by JeffFireRadio
Thanks!