Users may not create topics, posts, or private messages containing or relating to the following material (especially pertaining to Motorola copyrighted software, unless you want Motorola to come along and shut this site down):

  • Listing for sale or trade of, or links to sites offering for sale or trade of, or giving away, Radio
    Service Software (RSS) or Customer Programming Software (CPS)
  • Profanity, pornography, defamation, or slanderous remarks directed towards any individual or entity
  • Commercial advertising (except in the Batboard Vendors forum, as approved by the Admin/Mod Staff)
  • Any other items which may be deemed as offensive

If any topics, posts, or private messages containing or relating to the aforementioned material are brought to the attention of the Admin/Mod Staff, they will be deleted.

Additional FAQ items appear here in Forum Rules. Please review them for posting guidelines and further clarification.

Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

The place to talk about features you want to see in your radios. In addition speculation is welcome with respect to new features or subscribers being developed. You never know!

Moderator: Queue Moderator

User avatar
chartofmaryland
Batboard $upporter
Posts: 400
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 11:25 pm
What radios do you own?: Alot

Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby chartofmaryland » Wed May 03, 2017 9:05 am

Have a growing number of MotoTrbo systems to support and need to cleanly integrate them into a MCC7500 console

Also need to have full duplex as this will be an active patch meaning we cannot interrup one side of the conversation or the other

Cannot find anyone who has made one that works yet.

Prefer a Motorola Solution :o
If the lights are out when you leave the station and then come on the second you key up, you know you have enough power.

User avatar
d119
Posts: 3436
Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2002 4:00 pm

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby d119 » Wed May 03, 2017 10:14 am

AIS only relates to logging recorders.

You need a tone remote adapter interfaced to your DMR radio, the output of which will go into a CCGW. You can control up to 16 channels this way. You will not get radio ID's, emergency etc.

Full Duplex is not an option unless you are referring to being able to hear reject/talk permit tones from the DMR radio, which won't be an issue if configured as 4 wire. Otherwise there is NO "full duplex" option for MCC 7500 into DMR networks.

User avatar
chartofmaryland
Batboard $upporter
Posts: 400
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 11:25 pm
What radios do you own?: Alot

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby chartofmaryland » Thu May 04, 2017 7:53 am

Morning d119,

Mobiles would work but most of the systems I am trying to tie into are all across the country.

Have not had happy customers when we provided them patches through mobile radios run off of JPS NXU-2 setups.

The AIS I am referring to is from AVTEC but have not gotten anyone there to speak a peep to when it will be licensable.

This product in the wind offers full duplex as it operates like a console

At this point I am looking at Cisco again as they are closer to providing an audio gateway capable of DMR and 4w E&M than anyone else.
If the lights are out when you leave the station and then come on the second you key up, you know you have enough power.

User avatar
Bill_G
Posts: 3056
Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:00 am

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby Bill_G » Thu May 04, 2017 6:30 pm

My NXU's through VPN over DSL always sounded "musical". Crystal clear. We even successfully passed DTMF, if that's any indication of audio quality to you. And you can use them like E&M with their COR and PTT lines.

For plain old analog audio. Never tried to use them to pass encoded audio through their serial ports.

NickH
Posts: 67
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 9:19 am

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby NickH » Fri May 05, 2017 3:45 am

http://genesisworld.com/assets/uploads/PDF/GEnSAC_TRBO.pdf

We haven't tried it yet, but I found this interface from Genesis for TRBO into an MCC5500/7500. It looks like it direct connects to the repeater and provides an ACIM connection the CCGW. They're not cheap, but many of our communities are running P25 for PS and MotoTRBO for schools, requiring TRBO emergency and ID functionality in their central dispatch centers.

User avatar
chartofmaryland
Batboard $upporter
Posts: 400
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 11:25 pm
What radios do you own?: Alot

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby chartofmaryland » Fri May 05, 2017 8:38 am

Fantastic work Nick,

Getting demo from my Moto rep now.

Thanks

CoM
If the lights are out when you leave the station and then come on the second you key up, you know you have enough power.

jsilberberg
Posts: 46
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:55 pm

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby jsilberberg » Sun May 07, 2017 10:56 am

Really only a few players in this market that I know of --

Avtech is mentioned -
JPS is usually a good option, if you did not have success I would call them and discuss the issues with Benny in Tech Support.
Telex the IP-224 may be a great interface for this, but you do need to be careful about the counts due to the way the serial interfaces work with MOTOTRBO control stations. .

That Genesis solution looks interesting as well..

=====================
J. Silberberg
CompuDesigns, Inc.
Atlanta, GA.

User avatar
chartofmaryland
Batboard $upporter
Posts: 400
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 11:25 pm
What radios do you own?: Alot

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby chartofmaryland » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:27 pm

Evening all,

So a follow up with Genesis leaves me in the same place.

A mobile radio is the required interface for the audio operation of the Genesis server. The only non-mobile option was with a trident panel that may no longer be available as Motorola bought up Trident and only worked on connect plus systems.

When asked, Genesis replied that no one has asked for a vocoder option to be added to their product along with never having enough customer interest in a 4w full duplex console interface solution between MOTOTRBO and Astro25 systems.

As usual though,

If I can find enough group interest and a good many interested buyers, the engineering team would be willing to look into a solution like described.

I towed the line about the nightmare of a public school system that has a bus turned over and on fire located out in rural America, the school dispatcher is on 3 phones trying to tell the PSAP all about the incident, then the PSAP dispatcher realizes they have a mobile radio for the schools on their console and then starts stepping on the other school users along with times when the PSAP dispatcher and or the casualty bus driver is not getting through as the system only allows single transmission and so on and so on. . .

I then described the same scenario and how a full duplex console and remote desk set solution could allow so much more of the conversation to stay whole, not require important users to wait to talk, yahda yahda yahda.

Turning blue while restricting the airway is becoming a sad reality in this industry

CoM
If the lights are out when you leave the station and then come on the second you key up, you know you have enough power.

jsilberberg
Posts: 46
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:55 pm

Re: Need DMR AIS to 4W E&M

Postby jsilberberg » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:51 am

You might want to try reaching out to Raven Electronics -- Brett Dawson

Do do a lot of very interesting interfaces and may have an answer for you --

http://www.ravencomm.com/
J. Silberberg

CompuDesigns, Inc.

Atlanta, GA.


Return to “Infrastructure Product Feature Requests & Future Speculation”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest