Help! My town's PD is a PIRATE!

[Jonathan KC8RYW]

Just as the title says, Novi Police Department is a pirate user, and has been for over a year.

Their repeaters still send out MCW of "WLS676", but that license is long-purged from the FCC database.

If I tried operating without a license for over a year, I would have been hung by my neck by now.

Check out: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe ... id=1090718

Check out the letter I found after digging the APCO website:
http://141.209.214.215/ham_radio/apco.pdf

They are having technical issues on renewing their license. And, it's been expired for over a year!

Another example of why you should never ever live near Canada.

<strike>How hard would it be for me to get a license to take over their radio frequencies? I always enjoy teaching hard lessons. A fixed base under 15W wouldn't need coordination with Canada. Wo Hoo!</strike>

I stiked out this paragraph, because it is plain silly. There is no use proving a point if it will put a life at stake, especially those of my neighbors. Besides, if they can't fill out a form 601 right, then they won't be able to figure out that they are breaking the law now.

I still think it is bad that my local police are still interfering without license to a legal licensee in Canada. They will probably continue, until they move to the counties 800 trunked system sometime in the next 5-10 years. But until then, do I really want them to cause International radio conflicts?

From what I understand, police, just like hams, can use any band of communications in times of emergency. Still, considering the interference, wouldn't it be smart to figure something else out?

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[jim]

The township that sits adjacent to me forgot to renew their UHF license several years ago and a town about 13 miles away now has the frequency in their name. They were nice enough to let the old licensee continue to use it, however. The new licensee uses it only for a backup channel. Obviously, it isn't too hard to do.

[vcaruso]

For starters, why would you want to screw with a Public Safety system. What "hard lesson" could you possibly teach them and how in the hell would your community benefit from your getting your rocks off and teaching this "hard lesson"

Secondly how would you justify to the FCC licensing on that particular Frequency.

I have heard of departments having techinical issues with their license and operating with the FCCs Blessings until such issues are cleared up.

Grow Up

[perthcom]

Being as most of my trading area is 75 miles from the US border,(even though that point is in the middle of Lake Huron), most of my customer licence applications have to be sent to the FCC for their approval.
Recently an licence took about 18 months to get assigned a frequency, being rejected by the FCC cause of concerns for systems nearly 200 miles away!.

But such as life living close to the border.

I have a county wide fire channel that is co-channeled with a police repeater output over 100 miles away. The US signal is strong enough to wipe-out mobiles on some days, (wonder how much ERP is coming from there!) Since Industry Canada won't guarantee no interference on a new assignment, the politicians won't free up the money to change frequency.

Ah well
Ciao
Bruce

[10-95]

The FCC is not likely to bother with them unless someone else trys to get the frequency, but since it is in the law enforcement pool, it's not likely that another agency would try to take a frequency currently in use by a public saftey agency. Law enforcement and U.S. government agencys get first priority on frequencys in the leo pool anyway.

I would contact the city manager and just make him(or her) aware of this so they can file for proper authority(a peice of paper) to keep using them.

I would not worry too much about this.

10-95

[patrol186]

Yes we have a few depts like that in MI,
Barry Co. just went 800 astro, on the state system
Ben

[April]

The Police Dept is clearly in violation, no license issued. Does anyone have the correspondence from the FCC in reply?
There are several PD's that I know of personally who have NO licenses or are operation contray to the license peirimitters.

[radioEd]

On 2002-01-25 18:14, 10-95 wrote:
The FCC is not likely to bother with them unless someone else trys to get the frequency, but since it is in the law enforcement pool, it's not likely that another agency would try to take a frequency currently in use by a public saftey agency. Law enforcement and U.S. government agencys get first priority on frequencys in the leo pool anyway.

I would contact the city manager and just make him(or her) aware of this so they can file for proper authority(a peice of paper) to keep using them.

I would not worry too much about this.

10-95

I agree with Frank (10-95) its not a big deal for law enforcement down here, to get it taken care of "so to say" Arizona is a border state also..the feds & law enforcement have ways around this....like under the table.. old news...Ed