Ok, need some help with a legal question (oye).
I submitted a competative bid to do an install on an 05 CVPI, it's the first new car I'll be working on, but not the first vehicle I've done quality work on. I was at the opening of the bid, I matched all specifications, I've satisfied their demands of showing similar work (although on older vehicles, one of theirs actually), I've met a value on new work ($2 million building) but I've got one guy with a vendetta pushing to spend the extra 6 grand with a different company. It's a private non-profit company, but the vehicle will have official (new york) plates on it (given to municipalities only).
Any ideas on how I can win this, I need a demo car, but I don't have a budget to go out and buy a brand new car just to show off to people. I do quality work and I'm the cheapest. I've also got a ford factory certified mechanic on retainer to verify my work. Is there anything I can do?
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Maybe Mr. Vendeta's brother-in-law works for company B ? Gotta ask about the license plates, 'official' license plates are for political sub-divisions of the State (Cities,Towns,Counties,Villages,etc) How is a non-profit getting these? (unless the actual registration of the vehicle is to a political sub-division) ?
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Dealt with this type of crap for 15 years before I decided I had enough. (one of many reasons I decided to call it quits) Bottom line is they can award to who they want, you don't really say what type of organization it is, i.e.: fire company, ambulance company, fire protection dist, etc. Under the NY state bidding guidelines (if there bound to them by law, again depending on who they really are) they only have to award to the lowest responsible bidder. They get to say what makes you responsible. They can dump your bid. For example if it's a fire district you only have to know one thing, how to count to 3 (majority of the board). In my 15 years doing work I won some, lost some, even took one fire district to court. I had even spoken to the state attorney generals’ office about this and they basically said you can take them to court, but they don't have the staff to investigate every time someone calls and complains. What they do is take the complaint and it gets put in a pile they pick a couple at random to investigate, but by then the job is usually long over.
Also remember they have very deep pockets, it does not cost them out of there own personal pockets. They retain an attorney to deal with this stuff. But it adds up real fast when you’re the small guy trying to get ahead.
Even after you get experience, time and money under your belt they still can play these silly games.
The organizations that try to be fair and there are not many of them will award to you. The others will want the same people awarded the work. Don't kill yourself over it it's not worth the aggravation.
Dealt with this type of crap for 15 years before I decided I had enough. (one of many reasons I decided to call it quits) Bottom line is they can award to who they want, you don't really say what type of organization it is, i.e.: fire company, ambulance company, fire protection dist, etc. Under the NY state bidding guidelines (if there bound to them by law, again depending on who they really are) they only have to award to the lowest responsible bidder. They get to say what makes you responsible. They can dump your bid. For example if it's a fire district you only have to know one thing, how to count to 3 (majority of the board). In my 15 years doing work I won some, lost some, even took one fire district to court. I had even spoken to the state attorney generals’ office about this and they basically said you can take them to court, but they don't have the staff to investigate every time someone calls and complains. What they do is take the complaint and it gets put in a pile they pick a couple at random to investigate, but by then the job is usually long over.
Also remember they have very deep pockets, it does not cost them out of there own personal pockets. They retain an attorney to deal with this stuff. But it adds up real fast when you’re the small guy trying to get ahead.
Even after you get experience, time and money under your belt they still can play these silly games.
The organizations that try to be fair and there are not many of them will award to you. The others will want the same people awarded the work. Don't kill yourself over it it's not worth the aggravation.
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As I understand it
As I understand it, they're titled to the non-profit, and registered to the tax district... Both are similarly named. In the event the non-profit cancels their contract with the district OR ceases operation the vehicle is forfeit to the tax district.
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