As a side note - it's fine to have good logical discussions here - however, the bashing, name calling, etc has to stop in this thread.
Give Cipher77 a chance...
We all can't be experts in everything.
-alex
This is why DES-OFB is out and AES is IN w/ The Feds!
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mr.syntrx wrote:No there isn't. You explicitly spouted the following nonsense about the DSA:Cipher77 wrote:Obviously there is a miscommunication:
"No. The publication of cryptographic algorithms is protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution. See Bernstein vs USDOJ (1999). Only the use of algorithms developed by Uncle Sam like FASCINATOR are restricted. "
This is the crypto that I'm talking about!!! The name of the crypto that you had mentioned is TYPE I or II COMSEC (Communications Security Division of the National Security Agency). They make the rules, crypto and standards for the U.S. Govt.
This is the crypto that the Federal agencies under the DoD or the Department of the Treasury (FBI, USSS) that deal with issues of national security use NOT AES!!!
"It's only available to you because they (NSA) said so."
I will say it again: The development, use and study of cryptographic algorithm is protected by the First Amendment. This means the NSA has no say at all in what Joe Public can and can't use, as long as Joe doesn't use one of the man's ciphers without permission.
In no way does this provide any indication that the NSA has an organisational unit called "COMSEC". I'm at a loss as to why you posted it.Cipher77 wrote:Securing Record Communications: The TSEC/KW-26 Melville Klein Preface One of the missions of the National Security Agency (NSA) is to protect classified information whether in storage, processing, or transit. Collectively, information system security (INFOSEC) is the development and application of hardware, software, and doctrine. The “in transit” element, called communications security (COMSEC), assures that the underlying information is protected from external exploitation, disruption, or misrepresentation and is available only to authorized recipients. This brochure tells the cradle-to-grave story of highly successful cryptographic equipment for teletypewriter (TTY) communications, the TSEC/KW-26 and the people who developed, produced, and fielded it. (The italicized words are defined in the appended glossary.)
Go away, troll.
Ok Mate,
My bad, it's not a "division" it's an element of the NSA mission.......BFD!!!
You obviously are having a bad comprehension day. You just proved it. I give you concrete proof and still deny it in the biggest egotistical rant I've ever seen. if you were to talk to ANYONE who works in the government (UNITED STATES GOVT. that is) security world, say the term COMSEC and they will know what you're talking about. That stuff you can't read in any book.
I refuse to debate with J.A.F.O's. You obviously need to live in the US before you think you can start thinking that your a civics professor. You no NOTHING ABOUT THE 1ST AMENDMENT other than what you can read in a book. That is far from what is really going on in this country!!! The Bill of Rights at this time is worthless!!! But you wouldn't know that because your head is soooo far up your back side from reading about the great American life in your books and websites. From The Michael Jackson Trial to the (what our media is reporting) "minimal" casualties in the Iraq war to the "runaway bride". This is what you know about the United states. keep reading the headlines. We need people like you to make a control group to compare to people that really have legitimate intelligence and who know how to spell.......
good luck Mr. scarecrow said Dorothy
I have better things to do with my time that to waste it on patheticness with absolutely no abstract thought capabilities whatsoever. You talk in circles with blinders on. you remind me of a chimpanzee in the zoo walking in the same pattern in the cage for 14 hours a day.
When you finally dig your head out of your back side, I would really like to have a civil conversation with you some day!!
Go back to your little, closed minded world and spew nonsense all you want with little or no experience, knowledge or research to back up your spewing septic tank of a mouth.
OK, now that I've lowered myself 1/2 way to your standards, I'll quit while I'm ahead. I really hate to have to get all ghetto on someone but sometimes it's warranted to try to get a point across to someone who either doesn't want to or doesn't know how to listen.
Now, I've gotta go check into a M.A.R.S. Net so good luck in your intelligence search........
Take care!!
AMF
Cipher77
The Grabbing Hands, Grab all they can. Everything counts in large amounts. Martin L. Gore
Thanx Alex!! This is what it's all about. Sharing info & Ideas right??? I was hoping to accomplish the same. Thanx for giving me the chance to express my thoughts through this forum!!!alex wrote:As a side note - it's fine to have good logical discussions here - however, the bashing, name calling, etc has to stop in this thread.
Give Cipher77 a chance...
We all can't be experts in everything.
-alex
Cipher77
PS sorry about the last post......I kinda got caught up in the moment there for a few minutes and it got away from me.
The Grabbing Hands, Grab all they can. Everything counts in large amounts. Martin L. Gore
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