XTS5000 800 MHz - 850 Talkgroups???

[MtComm]

A large public safety organization has told me that the XTS5000 has
"850 talkgroups or channels". These are 800 MHz units. My Moto literature says they have 512.

Has anyone seen any proof of 850 talkgroups for the XTS5000? This might have something to do with rebanding. Has Moto tighten up their
microcode to add 340 talkgroups???

[tvsjr]

Yes, starting with firmware R07, XTS5000s support 850 channels/talkgroups.

[mr.syntrx]

On a related note, does the XTS2500 now do 512 modes?

[N4DES]

Yes, the Model 2 and 3 XTX2500 does 512 modes and the Model 1 & 1.5
does 96 with the R07 firmware.

[Bruce1807]

I have to ask.
Has anyone ever heard of an agency that has needed more than 512 talk groups.( apart from the techs that want every channel in their radio)

[mikegilbert]

Without a doubt- take a look at any major big-city system on radioreference.

Look at how many talkgroups they have. Add other adjacent cities/towns and you'll have one full radio.

-Mike

[mr.syntrx]

Absolutely. I was a member of one agency who have around 450 modes in their portable radios - if they hadn't taken the police channel plan out due to poorly trained users talking to each other on the cops dispatch channels etc, they'd exceed 512.

[N4DES]

Its also nice to know that I still have open channels so should I need to add additional channels/modes I can without any issues and on the fly.

As an example, with my XTS3K I have different personalities saved on a thumb drive for different applications i.e. hurricane activations & drills, and then my "regular configuration.

With my XTS2500 it's all loaded all the time.

[Bruce1807]

I find 15 channels for the police plenty and then a dozen hurricane channels fine.

Well comming soon is CPS OTA.
It was announced at the last Motorola Trunked User Group meeting.
I'll post some more info after the annual meeting on the 6th August in Orlando.

[tvsjr]

I find 15 channels for the police plenty and then a dozen hurricane channels fine.

Well comming soon is CPS OTA.
It was announced at the last Motorola Trunked User Group meeting.
I'll post some more info after the annual meeting on the 6th August in Orlando.

CPS OTA? Uh, yeah... I predict it'll take forever, especially for loaded codeplugs (unless they get *really* smart about things) and, due to user incompetence, will result in radios improperly reloaded (probably by accident).

850 talkgroups should be enough for anyone in the field. If you're a sysadmin, bring your programming gear with you.

[Bruce1807]

Over the Air Radio ProgrammingSafe Channel Talkgroup and Site Programming

What is it?
Robust system to use CPS Program to send individual radios new talkgroup and system site information via the ASTRO 25 IV&D system.

How Does It Work?
The Enhanced CPS utilizes the radio data system to deliver instructions to the radio to :
- Read / Write the Radio codeplug
- Update talkgroups channel assigns to the radio
- Add and Update Site information
- Update traditional CPS editable features




Manage Fielded Radios from a Central Location/s.

Use the ASTRO 25 IV&D to Download a New Radio Personality / Parameters.

Connect an Authorized Customer Programming Software(CPS) to your CEN, Read and Modify the Fielded Radio’s Parameters.

Use the Customer Programming Software over ASTRO 25IV&D to: - Add System Talkgroup
- Replace Talkgroup
- Add Talkgroup to the Zone Table.
- Replace Talkgroup with another Talkgroup in the Zone Table
- Update any other Radio’s Parameter
- Does NOT support FLASHport or tuning

Planned for XTS/XTL 5000/2500 which support ASTRO 25 IV&D
- XTL/XTS 1500 support to follow after initial launch

[mr.syntrx]

TETRA systems already support that. No idea how well it works though.