The new IMPRES LION battery is out.. NNTN6034

[batdude]

4150ma (rated)


now - THAT should last for 8hrs of use


list is about $131, don't buy the one on greedbay for $155....


doug

[escomm]

actually list is $155, don't want to get anyones hopes up too high

[batdude]

ur right, i was on the wrong side of MOL



d

[tvsjr]

So, are these thin like the 9862s or thick like the NiMH bricks?

[mr.syntrx]

I'm guessing it'd be pretty damn fat.

Sounds like a kicker of a battery. It'd probably run my radio for days!

[bellersley]

I don't have MOL infront of me here - what radio are these for?

Edit: Nevermind, google is your friend!

Not to hijack the thread, but are such high capacity LiIon batteries available for the Jedi series as well?

[tvsjr]

I'm guessing it'd be pretty damn fat.

Sounds like a kicker of a battery. It'd probably run my radio for days!

My thin, 2.75Ah 9862Bs run my radio for days, even with heavy TX usage...

[Do-Anything]

I just receive the new Impres HI-CAP Lithium-ion # NNTN6034A. Thought I would post a couple pictures. It's has a nicer looking case, little different then the others. I didn't weight it, but it feels like it's a little liter than the others. Can wait to get it all charged up!

[escomm]

it weights 8 1/2 ounces from what I understand, and since it's li-ion they don't need as much space to fit in the cells

[tvsjr]

But it is, indeed, a full-thickness battery... not the cut-in/slim case like the 9862Bs.

[escomm]

But it is, indeed, a full-thickness battery... not the cut-in/slim case like the 9862Bs.

Well duh, it is a 4+Ah battery

[Do-Anything]

Just put the battery on the scale and it weighted 8 oz. One pound for the NTN8299A Nick Metal Hydride battery. It's on the charger as I'm typing this out. Give it a few days and I will let you know how it preforms.
- Darrell

[tvsjr]

Just put the battery on the scale and it weighted 8 oz. One pound for the NTN8299A Nick Metal Hydride battery. It's on the charger as I'm typing this out. Give it a few days and I will let you know how it preforms.
- Darrell

It may take a few days for the thing to charge.

[Do-Anything]

Yea, It's like a feather compared to anything else I have. It's been on for a few hours and is still going. Hope it's ready by morning.

[Alex663]

As much as I would like one of those, how does one rationalize a $155 battery to their signifcant other? Especially since you can pick up an /\/\ 4500Mah, NiMh,FM Approved battery (still in date) from flea for $15?

Having said that, anyone who finds the new LIon unnaccetaple, please ship it first class too.......

[mancow]

$155 isn't bad at all.

My Thales25 battery is $240.

And my last one is just about dead.

[tvsjr]

As much as I would like one of those, how does one rationalize a $155 battery to their signifcant other? Especially since you can pick up an /\/\ 4500Mah, NiMh,FM Approved battery (still in date) from flea for $15?

Having said that, anyone who finds the new LIon unnaccetaple, please ship it first class too.......

Have you carried one of those 4Ah NiMHs? They're *bricks*. They feel like they weigh about 10lbs. They self-discharge rapidly, most aren't impres units (which is enough reason all on its own), etc.

And, $155 is list. Lots of people here can do significantly better.

[Do-Anything]

Just updating all of you on the Battery Charge Life / Usage so far. I charged it the first time 11/20 (took several hours) and I would say an average 10/90, Talk/Receive cycle time to date. The battery shows a RatedCap 40%, Rem.Cap = 1687 amp hours. I am still on the first charge. Man, I can't even get close to that with my NNTN4436B package. The weight difference is very noticeable too. If you can love a battery pack then, I love it, YES! I LOVE IT!!

[escomm]

I have 4 of these in stock, $125 each if anyone is interested

[precoislen]

I have 4 of these in stock, $125 each if anyone is interested

That's a pretty good price.

I might have to snatch on of the those up.

[MattSR]

Rem.Cap = 1687 amp hours.

Wow! I could start my car with that

[alex]

I have 8 of them on my desk... Very VERY nice looking suckers. Nice that they ditched the stupid impress stickers which just wear off.

I would say you could put two together to equal the weight of one ni-cad.

They look pretty sweet.

OH well, too bad I don't get to keep one for myself...

Not really the cheapest suckers.

-Alex

[mr.syntrx]

I agree.

I peeled the IMPRES stickers off on every battery I came across. They annoyed me.

[apco25]

I've found the 4mah NIHM kinda flaky too often self discharging very fast. They are heavy suckers too. New LION's are on my buy list.

[tvsjr]

I've found the 4mah NIHM kinda flaky too often self discharging very fast. They are heavy suckers too. New LION's are on my buy list.

Downside to NiMH... high self-discharge rate. LiIons are wonderful things... of course, they turn into small bombs.

[Hightower]

I have 4 of these in stock, $125 each if anyone is interested

That's a decent price IMHO. Considering a $1500 laptop, the battery is usually $200+

I just may have to pick up one of these after a few people comment on them.

[mr.syntrx]

How much lithium is in one of these?

Just wondering because if it contains more than 8g, you can't carry them on a passenger flight. (With QANTAS at least.)

[akardam]

Downside to NiMH... high self-discharge rate. LiIons are wonderful things... of course, they turn into small bombs. :P

"Sir, we're completely surrounded, and we don't have any ammunition left to speak of. Whatever will we do?"

"Well, there's nothing for it. Set radios on... overload."

"Right-o, sir."

*fweeeeeeeeEEEEEEEE BOOOOM*

Introducing the Motorola(tm) XTS5000(r) Grenade(c) ... when you absolutely, positively have to blow something up.

----

In all seriousness though, these things rock. I've already gone through one 8 hour shift, with a pretty standard 5/5/90 duty cycle, and the thing's still at 90% capacity. Suuweeeet.

[007]

Downside to NiMH... high self-discharge rate. LiIons are wonderful things... of course, they turn into small bombs.

"Sir, we're completely surrounded, and we don't have any ammunition left to speak of. Whatever will we do?"

"Well, there's nothing for it. Set radios on... overload."

"Right-o, sir."

*fweeeeeeeeEEEEEEEE BOOOOM*

Introducing the Motorola(tm) XTS5000(r) Grenade(c) ... when you absolutely, positively have to blow something up.

----

In all seriousness though, these things rock. I've already gone through one 8 hour shift, with a pretty standard 5/5/90 duty cycle, and the thing's still at 90% capacity. Suuweeeet.

Nicely done

[akardam]

Nicely done :D

Thank you, thank you. *bows* I'll be here all week. Don't forget to try your waitresses and tip the steak.

[Wicho]

I know I'm bringing up and old post, but...how did you ever get that much life out of the battery? I just got one, am using an Impres charger with v3.4 firmware, and the best I've gotten out of it is 36 hours with little TX before the battery "chirp of death" came through the speaker.

Don't get me wrong - it's a great, light battery, but...Days of use?

Just updating all of you on the Battery Charge Life / Usage so far. I charged it the first time 11/20 (took several hours) and I would say an average 10/90, Talk/Receive cycle time to date. The battery shows a RatedCap 40%, Rem.Cap = 1687 amp hours. I am still on the first charge. Man, I can't even get close to that with my NNTN4436B package. The weight difference is very noticeable too. If you can love a battery pack then, I love it, YES! I LOVE IT!!

[DES-AJ]

I get half a week with very heavy usage.

[Wicho]

Thanks, now I'm bummed.

Did you notice that battery life increased after a few charges?

I get half a week with very heavy usage.

[N4DES]

I just got 2 of these in. Man are they light and if they perform anywhere close to the RNN4006 battery I'll be a very happy camper.

[tvsjr]

I just got 2 of these in. Man are they light and if they perform anywhere close to the RNN4006 battery I'll be a very happy camper.

They'll do better and won't self-discharge nearly as quickly. Take a look at the 9862s as well... 2.75Ah, but thin. Pulls the radio up closer to your body, which means I hang it on less stuff.

[DES-AJ]

Thanks, now I'm bummed.

Did you notice that battery life increased after a few charges?

I get half a week with very heavy usage.

No I found it was great after the first charge, I charged mine about three weeks ago and it only just went dead lastnight with light use.

[Cipher77]

Got one for my 5k & have had it on my radio for about 5 days about 6 hours a day!!!

[n3obl]

what is the part number for the belt clip for these?

Frank

[escomm]

Same as the others, NTN8266 standard clip (2.25") and NTN8460 public safety (3")

[mr.syntrx]

Take a look at the 9862s as well... 2.75Ah, but thin. Pulls the radio up closer to your body, which means I hang it on less stuff.

Same money as a 6034 though.

[Elroy Jetson]

So what's available in the way of newer/better/smaller batteries for the Astro Saber, anyway?

I'd love to see at least a "baby" sized battery (the smallest one made for Sabers, just the width of the radio itself
and maybe two inches tall) in a Li-Ion type, or at least a Li-Ion Saber battery of the "usual" size with enhanced capacity.

Does any of those exist? And if so, where can I get one?

Is there an Impres Astro Saber battery, too?


Elroy

[mr.syntrx]

So what's available in the way of newer/better/smaller batteries for the Astro Saber, anyway?

I'd love to see at least a "baby" sized battery (the smallest one made for Sabers, just the width of the radio itself
and maybe two inches tall) in a Li-Ion type, or at least a Li-Ion Saber battery of the "usual" size with enhanced capacity.

Does any of those exist? And if so, where can I get one?

Not from Motorola. There is an aftermarket outfit who make them who advertised in MRT a while back, Wireless Pacific, P/N WP4588C19.

http://www.wirelesspac.com
+852-2872-0699

Is there an Impres Astro Saber battery, too?

HNN9033 is the only Saber IMPRES battery, and it's NiCD. It's a heavy little beast though, at about a pound.

[escomm]

So what's available in the way of newer/better/smaller batteries for the Astro Saber, anyway?

I'd love to see at least a "baby" sized battery (the smallest one made for Sabers, just the width of the radio itself
and maybe two inches tall) in a Li-Ion type, or at least a Li-Ion Saber battery of the "usual" size with enhanced capacity.

Does any of those exist? And if so, where can I get one?

Not from Motorola. There is an aftermarket outfit who make them who advertised in MRT a while back, Wireless Pacific, P/N WP4588C19.

There are still "shorty" batteries available, but bend over if you want OEM.

There is the NTN7014 NiMH battery and NTN8818A Li Ion.

Is there an Impres Astro Saber battery, too?

HNN9033 is the only Saber IMPRES battery, and it's NiCD. It's a heavy little beast though, at about a pound.

[/quote]
Almost. There's also an HNN9034 Impres NiCD that's Intrinsically Safe... also has a rated capacity of 2000mAh vs 1800mAh for the 9033

[resqguy911]

Honeywell has a shorty LiIon battery for the Saber, not on their site yet.

[Elroy Jetson]

I just picked up a used NTN8818A Li-Ion short pack. I'll let you know how well it works out.


It's been a few days and the NTN8818A battery has good receive life. It's the first short pack I've had on an Astro Saber
that will allow the radio to make it through the day in receive only mode.

But it's not so good for when you're going to be transmitting. It definitely lacks the capacity of your common NTN4595
type battery.

However, this battery I picked up IS used and a couple of years old. I believe that a newer one would be better.




Elroy

[Grog]

There is the NTN7014 NiMH battery and NTN8818A Li Ion.

What are the prices on those?

[escomm]

NTN7014BR
PREM BATT NIMH 1350 MAH 7.5V
$120.00 MSRP

NTN8818A
PREM BATT LIION 1700 MAH 7.5V
$175.00 MSRP

[Grog]

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