new xts5000/xtl5000 user questions...

k5rpd · Post by **k5rpd** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:32 pm

I am a new user on the AWIN system here in Arkansas (statewide P25 astro system- 9600bd control, all digital) http://www.radioreference.com/modules.p ... B&sid=3918 (radioreference.com linkage). We have the follwing radios being fielded in our area...

XTL5000 Mobiles with W5 head
Flashcode: 500008-001484-4

Q806/G806 IMBE / APCO-25 Digital Operation
H14/G114 Digital ID Display
H38/G51 Smartzone Operation
W947/Q947 APCO Packet Data
Q173/G173 Smartzone OmniLink Operation
Q361/G361 Digital APCO-25 IMBE Trunking (9600kb Control)
1B3 Future System Enhancement

XTS5000 Portables model II
Flashcode: 500008-001486-2

Q806/G806 IMBE / APCO-25 Digital Operation
H14/G114 Digital ID Display
H38/G51 Smartzone Operation
W947/Q947 APCO Packet Data
Q173/G173 Smartzone OmniLink Operation
Q361/G361 Digital APCO-25 IMBE Trunking (9600kb Control)
1B2 Future System Enhancement
1B3 Future System Enhancement

My questions-
1: Encryption is not being listed as part of the flashcode using the flashcode decoder on radioreference.com, but the boxes and the service info on radio startup list "secure- adp" as an option, and one of the buttons when pushed on the mobile displays CKR on the screen (referring to common key reference???). So, does it uses encryption or not? And/or what is it capable of on this flash?

2: Can someone point me in the right direction about the service info on startup? I press home x5 and it spills its guts about the host and dsp, etc. I under stand the host and dsp, the next- "Secure-adp" see above. And then "ch 31" ??? etc, etc...

3. What are the "1B2" and 1B3" items in the flashcode?

Sorry for the long post

Thanks in advance for any info and help,
Sgt. Smith,
K5RPD

k5rpd · Post by **k5rpd** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:24 am

Bump!

Any comments?

Post by **batdude** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:20 am

here ya go:

1: Encryption is not being listed as part of the flashcode using the flashcode decoder on radioreference.com, but the boxes and the service info on radio startup list "secure- adp" as an option, and one of the buttons when pushed on the mobile displays CKR on the screen (referring to common key reference???). So, does it uses encryption or not? And/or what is it capable of on this flash?

hardware ADP is still VERY new. Your radio is CAPABLE of encryption using ADP - it's probably selectable either by button or programmed on a per-mode basis (i.e. some channels might be forced into encryption)

2: Can someone point me in the right direction about the service info on startup? I press home x5 and it spills its guts about the host and dsp, etc. I under stand the host and dsp, the next- "Secure-adp" see above. And then "ch 31" ??? etc, etc...

what is it you want to do? the service mode you are talking about is for obtaining the specifics of the radio (as you have found) and then the radio will roll into it's test channels - which are simply pre-programmed modes with different frequencies and signalling options to perform an alignment without reprogramming the radio. you really don't need to worry about this stuff unless the radio has some kind of problem.

3. What are the "1B2" and 1B3" items in the flashcode?

this is the (current) inability for the flashcode decoder to successfully decode the newer radio flashcodes. for example, hardware adp can either be a flashport, software-only option, or (as in your case) it can be hardware based and require a keyloader to load.

the flashcode decoder will be updated in due time - it just takes a while to get the option decodes worked out right.

doug

Post by **xmo** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:43 am

Secret Captain Midnight Motorola Flashcode Decoder Ring Says:

On your mobile Flashcode the last item is: G667/G198 ADP

On the portable code you have ADP and also: Q446 Fireground Voice [channel announcement]

Either that or it says: "Be sure to drink your ovaltine! "

Oops, wrong decoder ring....

k5rpd · Post by **k5rpd** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:53 pm

OK, thanks for the info.

So it has software based ADP encryption which is the "weakest" of the available schemes.

The service info isn't that critical, I figured out most of it...

The "fireground voice" was news to me- had not heard of that- is the Q446 the same thing that is included n the Q806 option? or is it something separate? I noticed Q445 "fireground accountability"- do those two rely on each other or is the Q446 simply the channel announcement feature?

Thanks again,
Sgt. Smith
K5RPD

123 · Post by **123** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:01 pm

What does Q446 fireground voice actually do?

Post by **Mfire39** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:54 pm

In a nutshell, it lets you load voice files in the radio and assign them to the channels. When you change the channel or program a button for channel announce, the radio will play the voice file.

Let’s say Chan 1 is your main dispatch channel. You would create a voice file to say "Main Dispatch". When the radio is turned on or switched to Chan 1, the radio will play the audio file as as if someone was speaking "Main Dispatch".

Keep in mind that when you create a .WAV file, it has to be converted (compressed) through the radio into a .MVF (Motorola Voice File) in order to import it and use it in the radio. Hope this helps sum it up in a nutshell.

-Marc

123 · Post by **123** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:34 am

Thanks

nickburns186 · Post by **nickburns186** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:18 pm

You dont actually need the fireground voice option to get that functionality. None of the XTS 2500/5000 I've taken delivery of have that option unless its part of the SZ package and I've programed many voice channels in.

J