Astro Spectra FLASHCODE Question

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Astro Spectra FLASHCODE Question

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Hello everyone out there...

I just purchased a Astro Spectra on Ebay for about $400

Model Number: T04UJH9PW9AN
Serial Number: 494AAC0462
Flash Code: 000004-002000-2
System Package: G50
Memory Size: 1Meg

As you can see the hardware supports Digital Astro Operation but the flashcode does not. Is there any way to modify the flash code OR do I have to get a new one from /\/\?

FWI, I have the SRib, flash and programing cables, and CPS that will load flash and read/program the radio.

Can anyone out there help or advise me?
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Post by alex »

Can you post the firmware versions as well? This will state if you have analog only firmware, or if the firmware version will support what your looking to do.

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R09.60.02?

I powered it up, and put it in service mode, here it all is:

SERVICE
R096002
N060502
EMCR0000
KG1 NONE
KG2 NONE
CNTLHD31
T04UJH9P
N *it doesn't show the "W9A" before the "N"
494AAC04
62
1MEG
FLSHCD
000004-
002000-2
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Post by akardam »

Looks like the radio does have digital firmware in it (DSP N060502). Does the flashcode match the tags? If so, sounds like a hack job to me...
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Match the tags?

Well, After reading the codeplug, it shows me numerous options including ASTRO Digital, which are 'disabled'. Is that what you mean?
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Re: Astro Spectra FLASHCODE Question

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mgsully wrote:Model Number: T04UJH9PW9AN
Serial Number: 494AAC0462
Flash Code: 000004-002000-2
System Package: G50
Memory Size: 1Meg
I'm presuming this info came from the sticker on the back of the chassis of the radio?
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If your asking if the radio is legit... just check out the ebay auction that I got it from...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0062010782

Yes, the internal programing matches the sticker on the outside. This radio is legal.
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Ok, so the flashcode on the tags matches the flashcode according to the codeplug.

Two possibilities:

1) The vocon was replaced with one with digital firmware, and the original codeplug was placed into the new vocon

2) The firmware was upgraded on the existing vocon, without modifying the codeplug.

Make sense?
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No, I imagine that the vocon is part of the hardware that stores the flashcode?

Is an ugrade possible?


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Post by akardam »

The vocon is the board that contains the Host firmware, DSP firmware, and codeplug information.

Modifications are possible. It requires special software. If you don't already have said software, and I gather that you do not, do not ask for it. There are those on the board who can help you. It would likely require removing the vocon from the radio, and sending it off.
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The information necessary to accomplish your task is readily available on the board, if you search for it.
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hypothetically speaking of course... how would one make the modifications were they to use the absolutely forbiden and illegal software... Hypothetically of course.
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What control head do you have on it. From the way you listed the display readout from the service menu its either got a plug for a non w9 head on it or you have a wrong head on it.

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I am using a standard head on it since the ebay auction did not include the head. It seems to work perfectly, all buttons, functions and lights work, no error codes.
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Whats a "standard" head to you? W3/4/5/7 or 9

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Sorry W9
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Post by Pj »

Lets put it this way. The "forbidden software" does not let you go in and turn features on and off like you would think.

For the most part, it lets you cram in another radio's configuration into yours. However, your radio becomes the other one... flashcode, model number, and serial number. It also overwrites the tuning values of the radio, so unless you write them down or can realign the radio, it may not perform very well until you do.

In addition, if you were ever going to send this radio into Motorola for offical serivce, it might get flagged and service not performed.

An offical upgrade to IMBE should cost around $400 or so. I don't know the current pricing on analog to digital is, but I know at one point it was around $600 (400ish if it was VSELP).
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Post by mgsully »

Well, that explains alot. And to a degree, I expected a little more, where would I find another codeplug?
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