Death of a Motorola RIB & Spectra Programming Issues
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Death of a Motorola RIB & Spectra Programming Issues
Hey all, its been awhile since ive been on the batboard, but I come seeking the collective technological wisdom of the members again.
While attempting to program an A4 mid power (D43) spectra the other day I believe I may have destroyed my RIB. I had the radio properly connected, ignition sense wired in, ect. As I went to read the radio via RSS it would showed one of the following errors: "Serial Bus Error: Power Fault" or "Serial Bus Error: Busy Line Locked". The "Busy Line Locked" error was accompanied by a SELF CHK/FL 01/90 loop on the display that would clear if I turned the radio off and disconnected the RIB to radio cable. I attempted to read it again, to no avail. Believing the RIB to Radio cable was at fault, I ordered a different one (the original RIB to radio cable I was using was an aftermarket by Wiscomm).
I ordered a different cable from MRE direct on ebay which arrived today. Again I hooked everything up, and attempted to read the radio. I recieved the "Serial Bus Error: Power Fault" message this time, but had no "Busy Line Locked" or SELF CHK loop problems. Baffled by this I tried then to determine exactly what the problem was (computer, cable, RIB, radio) I tried to read several of my other radios with the ill-fated RIB. All of them returned as com-port errors. I tried a different computer with the same results. I know from past experience that the RIB to radio cables for my other radios are functioning. Both of the computers are showing the COM port to be working as well. This only leaves the RIB as the issue.
Is the RIB dead? If so, how did it die, so that I may not repeat the mistake again? In addition, is it possible to have the RIB repaired, or is it best to just order another one?
RIB info:
Motorola RIB P/N 01-80353A74 (from the pre-RLN4008 era)
Motorola RIB to PC cable
Aftermarket RIB to Radio cable (from MRE direct on ebay)
9v 100mA AC adapter power supply for RIB
Thanks for any help
While attempting to program an A4 mid power (D43) spectra the other day I believe I may have destroyed my RIB. I had the radio properly connected, ignition sense wired in, ect. As I went to read the radio via RSS it would showed one of the following errors: "Serial Bus Error: Power Fault" or "Serial Bus Error: Busy Line Locked". The "Busy Line Locked" error was accompanied by a SELF CHK/FL 01/90 loop on the display that would clear if I turned the radio off and disconnected the RIB to radio cable. I attempted to read it again, to no avail. Believing the RIB to Radio cable was at fault, I ordered a different one (the original RIB to radio cable I was using was an aftermarket by Wiscomm).
I ordered a different cable from MRE direct on ebay which arrived today. Again I hooked everything up, and attempted to read the radio. I recieved the "Serial Bus Error: Power Fault" message this time, but had no "Busy Line Locked" or SELF CHK loop problems. Baffled by this I tried then to determine exactly what the problem was (computer, cable, RIB, radio) I tried to read several of my other radios with the ill-fated RIB. All of them returned as com-port errors. I tried a different computer with the same results. I know from past experience that the RIB to radio cables for my other radios are functioning. Both of the computers are showing the COM port to be working as well. This only leaves the RIB as the issue.
Is the RIB dead? If so, how did it die, so that I may not repeat the mistake again? In addition, is it possible to have the RIB repaired, or is it best to just order another one?
RIB info:
Motorola RIB P/N 01-80353A74 (from the pre-RLN4008 era)
Motorola RIB to PC cable
Aftermarket RIB to Radio cable (from MRE direct on ebay)
9v 100mA AC adapter power supply for RIB
Thanks for any help
As a starting point, I'd suggest that you check the wallwart at the RIB end of the power cable under some load. Quite a few of these power adapters fail because the cable takes a beating either on the transformer end or at the connector on the RIB end. Try to verify that you do indeed have 9V minimum at the RIB while moving the cable at the strain reliefs on both ends of the cable.
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i've actually had better luck with aftermarket ribs and ones i've built over motorola ribs. I have 2 motorola ribs sitting on the shelf right now that don't work right.
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When I was with the test equipment depot, we would swap defective ribs with new ones for $100. I don't know if CTDI is continuing this practice but you can find out by calling them @ 1-800-323-6967. By the way, CTDI's test equipment depot is still in Elgin and the hired most of the techs from the Motorola TE depot.Is the RIB dead? If so, how did it die, so that I may not repeat the mistake again? In addition, is it possible to have the RIB repaired, or is it best to just order another one?
In addition to adding the 9V battery, the RLN4008 series added protection diodes to the data lines of the rib. Your 01-803 model doesn't have this protection. If CTDI still replaces them at $100, is it worth it to troubleshoot and repair? Sometimes yes, but I usually have more important things to take care of.RIB info:
Motorola RIB P/N 01-80353A74 (from the pre-RLN4008 era)
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The AC adapter is working just fine, puts out the required 9V and no damage to the cord or strain reliefs.Al wrote:As a starting point, I'd suggest that you check the wallwart at the RIB end of the power cable under some load. Quite a few of these power adapters fail because the cable takes a beating either on the transformer end or at the connector on the RIB end. Try to verify that you do indeed have 9V minimum at the RIB while moving the cable at the strain reliefs on both ends of the cable.
Thanks for the insight and info. It's probably too much of a hassle (both for the techs and me) to send this old box off for repair, especially if it'll just end up getting replaced alltogether. Ill probably scrap this one and order a RLN4008 tomorrow.DJP126 wrote:If CTDI still replaces them at $100, is it worth it to troubleshoot and repair? Sometimes yes, but I usually have more important things to take care of.
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Thanks for the help folks. Ive gone ahead and ordered a replacement (RLN4008E). I figured that this RIB has been with me for quite awhile and perhaps it was its time (poor thing's practically a museum piece at this point).
Anyone have any ideas on how it might have gotten fried? I don't want to make the same mistake again. My theory is that the aftermarket programming cable I initially used killed it.
Anyone have any ideas on how it might have gotten fried? I don't want to make the same mistake again. My theory is that the aftermarket programming cable I initially used killed it.
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Hey folks,
I recieved my replacement RIB and everything is working fine. The cable from MRE works great and I was finally able to program that darn A4 spectra.
I believe that there may have been a short in the wiscomm cable I had tried to use previously which probably burned up my old RIB.
Thanks again for everyones help!
I recieved my replacement RIB and everything is working fine. The cable from MRE works great and I was finally able to program that darn A4 spectra.
I believe that there may have been a short in the wiscomm cable I had tried to use previously which probably burned up my old RIB.
Thanks again for everyones help!