Spectra error 08/10

PropellorHead · Post by **PropellorHead** » Fri May 11, 2007 10:16 pm

I tried searching but couldn't find an answer...

I have an A9 UHF spectra i just acquired, and it shows error 08/10...

I know this is due to it missing the siren/pa accessory...but I don't have it. So how would I go about getting past this error and programming this bad boy?

It keeps returning "serial bus failure: busy line locked"[/i]

ke7joi · Post by **ke7joi** » Fri May 11, 2007 10:27 pm

LACityFD

does it say fail 08/10 if it does you will have to find a pa so you can delete it from the codeplug or the the radio will not allow you to communicate with it.

PropellorHead · Post by **PropellorHead** » Fri May 11, 2007 10:51 pm

Ya it does....is there absolutely no way around it? Is this thing a brick?

ke7joi · Post by **ke7joi** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:06 pm

1 question has the rib and cable been tested with a known good radio and does the radio give the same fail code when the rib is and cable is not hooked up ?

PropellorHead · Post by **PropellorHead** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:25 pm

the radio gives the same fail code with and w/o rib attached. I have used a few cables, same result. I just finished programming 4 maxtrac and a syntor with the same rib...all programmed flawlessly.

I'm guessing I can't just jam a codeplug into this thing? Although i don't even have a codeplug for it. This is my first attempt at reading it.

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:46 pm

LACityFD wrote: the radio gives the same fail code with and w/o rib attached. I have used a few cables, same result. I just finished programming 4 maxtrac and a syntor with the same rib...all programmed flawlessly.

I'm guessing I can't just jam a codeplug into this thing? Although i don't even have a codeplug for it. This is my first attempt at reading it.

First thing..Programming the Maxtrac, Syntors, ect does not use part of the RIB circuits needed to program a Spectra.

Two..JAMMING in a codeplug will cause all the alignment settings to be most likley incorrect as the alignment values are part of the codeplug information. Yes, a chance of bricking the radio...

"serial bus failure: busy line locked" indicates data line timming problems usally in the RIB.
Can you enter into the Service Menu with the RSS, and does the Spectra respond?

ke7joi · Post by **ke7joi** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:52 pm

no you can`t communicate with the radio with out the siren pa attached because the radio data bus is waiting for a anwser from the siren pa. so do you know anyone with a siren deck to let you use it long enough and take it out of the setup in the rss or you could send the mlm from your radio to some one who has a correct setup and they can take it out of the program my first pick for someone to do that job would be Bruce lane Blue Feather Technologies his handle here is kc7gr or you can reach him through his website at http://www.bluefeathertech.com/kc7gr/index.html

Post by **akardam** » Sat May 12, 2007 6:32 am

Whoa. Slow down. Rewind to zero.

You don't have to have to attach the siren amp in order to disable it - how else would you program a high power Spectra? (Hint: There's only two DB25's on the front, one for the head, and one for an external package, OR the programming cable - can't have both external package and programming cable hooked up at the same time).

There are typically two kinds of error messages on radios that use the Systems 9000 bus - ERROR and FAIL. If the radio is simply missing its Siren/PA amp, the message should be "ERROR 08/10", and should not persist for more than a few seconds after the radio completes its bootup and POST sequence. After the ERROR code dissapears, the radio should operate normally (unless in this case you tried to activate one of the siren functions).

If this is the case, you should by all means be able to pull a codeplug, disable the siren feature, push the codeplug back in, and presto, no more error.

If the message actually is "FAIL 08/10", then that would seem to indicate an error in the actual amp itself, which in this case should not be happening, since it's physically not there (how can you determine a non-existand piece of equipment is bad?).

If this is the case, it might point to more serious problems with the unit.

I would focus at this point on your programming setup. Check cables, connections, power, etc. If you have access to another Spectra, test your programming gear with it.

If all else fails, since you're in the LA area, there should be more than a few shops in the area that could help you out.

PropellorHead · Post by **PropellorHead** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:11 pm

The code is "error 08/10"...

It self tests, then settles on the first channel/mode...and I can cycle through modes, play with the volume and so on...however the xmit light remains red and solid. Once I connect the rib and programming cables to it, the xmit light turns off, and the busy light begins to flash, and there is a solid beep/tone that plays out of the speaker. Once in this phase, I am unable to get the radio to switch channels or anything. If I try to read it i get an rss prompt, telling me that the busy line is busy, and it is unable to read the radio.

resqguy911 · Post by **resqguy911** » Sat May 12, 2007 2:27 pm

This sounds an awful lot like a problem I found occurs when the wrong control head interface board is used. Try a different one.

txshooter · Post by **txshooter** » Sat May 12, 2007 2:52 pm

If the transmit light is staying on as well you may have another problem going on. As you just bought this radio, you might want to check which interconnect board is between the radio and control head. A mismatched board can be a reason for the constant transmitting.

FYI as it has already been said these esdos read and write fine even when there is not a siren amp hooked up when it should be.

My guess is you are having multiple problems, one of which as will already stayed is probably your rib.

Good factory rib and a factory cable or well built one and some of you problems will probably be solved!

Mike B · Post by **Mike B** » Sun May 13, 2007 1:38 pm

Check the emergency jumper. It sounds like it is missing or incorrect. If the optional jumper JU502 is installed on the command board, then the emergency jumper is removed for normal operation. If JU502 is not installed (like normal), then the emergency jumper must be shorted to ground for normal operation.

On the high power radio drawer A9 heads, the emergency jumper is usually on the A9 VIP port (see the J1 / P100 Pin 27 Note):
http://www.open.org/~blenderm/spectra/c ... #s9krdpins

On the medium/low power radio drawer A9 heads, the emergency jumper may be on the DB-15 on the rear of the radio or on the A9 VIP port:
http://www.open.org/~blenderm/spectra/i ... #j2dashrem

If the emergency jumper is not correctly installed, then the radio will be stuck in emergency Tx 24/7.

The missing Siren/PA is an entirely different problem.