Understanding flashcode

[txcc08]

Bear with me I'm a newbie and I have a few basic questions to ask. If you have a flashcode such as 100008-000000-0 which as we know is APCO 25 IMBE & SmartZone operation does this radio by default also have H35 Conventional operation? I would assume yes since SmartZone H38 Has the higher flashcode value "8" for that flashcode digit than H35 "1". I also make this assumption based on the fact that my Smartnet radio digit value "4" does conventional too. Would this inclusion of the lesser valued options per digit space hold true for other flashcode digits? Lastly does "F" & "A" stand for the value of 10 (the maximum) on the flashcode digits? Thanks

[Grog]

If you have a flashcode such as 100008-000000-0 which as we know is APCO 25 IMBE & SmartZone operation does this radio by default also have H35 Conventional operation?

Yes on that, they all do conventional. Not sure on the rest but someone will know for sure.

[Mfire39]

After 9, it starts A, B, C, D, E, F.. Thats as high as it goes..

-Marc

[txcc08]

Thanks for the quick responses.

I would assume from your responses that lesser valued options per digit space would not be included just because the radio is flashed with a more advanced option. For example with the exception of H35 conventional operation the flash codes contain only what the digital value translates to ie: "5" in digit 12 is H14 Digital ID Display & Q806 APCO 25 IMBE. Is this correct? Thanks for your patience.

[RKG]

I'm not sure of your question, but see if this helps:

I interpret Motorola flashcodes to be a hexadecimal rendition of a binary series. That is, each digit in the flashcode represents the presence or absence of a combination of four possible options.

0 means none of the options
1 means Option A
2 means Option B
3 means Options A and B
4 means Option C
5 means Options A and C
6 means Options B and C
7 means Options A, B and C
8 means Option D
9 means Options A and D
A means Options B and D
B means Options A, B and D
C means Options C and D
D means A, C and D
E means Options B, C and D
F means Options A, B, C and D

This is sometimes known as a "truth table."

[txcc08]

Just to clarify:

All flashport radios (XTS series, Astro Sabers etc) have a minimum of conventional analog operation? Even if they are flashed for trunking they will still operate on conventional?


At a minimum to have IMBE/APCO 25, conventional operation, with multikey encryption (with a module installed of course) and MCD decode on the display I would need the following flashcode:

500001-400000-1

Q806/G806 IMBE / APCO-25 Digital Operation
H14/G114 Digital ID Display
H35/G48 Conventional Operation
H07 Multikey software encryption

Lastly what is the difference between H868/W298 Conventional Multikey and Analog Conventional MDC OTAR, H869/W969 Multikey Operation, H29 Single key Software Encryption Option, H07 Multikey software encryption & Q181 StatAlert (MDC1200) Features? Thanks again for the help.

[Tom in D.C.]

All, and I mean ALL, flashcode data has been previously
covered in excruciating detail on this Board, as well as over on http://www.batlabs.com.
We even have an automatic decoder for everyone's use,
courtesy of one of our moderators. You can use the SEARCH
function to find what you need.

And yes, ALL current radios will do conventional, analog, FM, whether
they say so or not, whether the flashcode says they will or
not, and whether you want them to or not.

[txcc08]

Thanks Tom for the clarification

[txcc08]

Is F50101-8F0000-7 a "whored out" flashcode? Would it have conflicting option problems. Thanks

[akardam]

Is F50101-8F0000-7 a "whored out" flashcode? Would it have conflicting option problems. Thanks

Yes and yes.

[Tom in D.C.]

Use the decoder and see what you think of the flashcode:

http://www.akardam.net/moto/tools/decod ... =flashcode

[txcc08]

Thanks I had a feeling but I wasn't sure. Some guy on fleabay is auctioning a Saber IIR with that flashcode.

[Tom in D.C.]

Don't buy an "R" model Astro Saber unless you have a really good reason for
doing so. The batteries are special and cost an arm and a leg. You're
better off with a standard Astro Saber II or III which use the garden-
variety, cheap, Saber batteries.

[N4KVE]

Not always. I have purchased a few AS1 "R" radios off Ebay & they were cheap because of the battery situation, however the chassis fit right into an old beat up non "R" case. 2 minute fix. GARY N4KVE

[KA8SCP]

I am sure you've heard it before, but as newbie with a Astro Spectra Mobile problem, I am trying to figure out a problem. From what I've read, the newer radios will do analog/conventional by default? I have a system with a flashcode of 590008-0C0E00-0, the radio is a DD04KKF9PW4AN and has Firmware = 9.52.00 and DSP = N6.04.02. After programming it, it seems to transmit both analog and digital just fine, but does not receive any analog at all. The digital seems to come through the speaker just fine. But with a analog signal, I do not even see a busy lamp.

I guess my question is, shoud I be looking for a radio problem, or is thre something wrong on the logic side, the flashcode? This is a new radio for me and my first foray in to P25 on the ham bands. Unknown whether this radio ever received analog audio before, so it is not a break/fix issue just yet.

Thanks....

de Terry - KA8SCP

[dxon2m]

I am sure you've heard it before, but as newbie with a Astro Spectra Mobile problem, I am trying to figure out a problem. From what I've read, the newer radios will do analog/conventional by default? I have a system with a flashcode of 590008-0C0E00-0, the radio is a DD04KKF9PW4AN and has Firmware = 9.52.00 and DSP = N6.04.02. After programming it, it seems to transmit both analog and digital just fine, but does not receive any analog at all. The digital seems to come through the speaker just fine. But with a analog signal, I do not even see a busy lamp.

I guess my question is, shoud I be looking for a radio problem, or is thre something wrong on the logic side, the flashcode? This is a new radio for me and my first foray in to P25 on the ham bands. Unknown whether this radio ever received analog audio before, so it is not a break/fix issue just yet.

Thanks....

de Terry - KA8SCP

Your radio, based on the flashcode, host and dsp, should support both analog and IMBE digital. If it doesn't receive any analog, I would look into programming, check on the "receive options" in the personality screeen, see what the "receive voice type" is set to. If it is ASTRO only, it will only unmute on digital transmissions, you should set it to mixed mode if you want both digital and analog voice to be decoded. Also, change the unmute rule to "Digital CSQ" under the Astro voice type (don't remember the exact tab name, but it's at the very last of the personality tabs)