Maxtrac= Diferent model number ?

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Satelite
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Maxtrac= Diferent model number ?

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Hello
I every now and then see on ebay the seller lists a maxtrac model number like the one below.
FUE1671A
I have figured out the other numbers like the D33 /D43 ect but cant find any info for a FUE1671A.
Anyone know where i can find info on the FUE type or types of model numbers like this style ?
A webb site or even what it is as to band split /wattage/channels ect.
Is it a usa radio or a forien number ?
Id really like to be able to look up these model numbers when i ocasionaly see them.
Thank You Satelite
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Post by jackhackett »

That's not a model number, I believe that's the part number for a control head assembly, don't hold me to that though... it's the weekend so I can't look anything up.

If you see something like that I would guess either they're just selling the head, or the model number sticker is missing from the radio, or the seller doesn't know enough about radios to put the proper number. In such cases you might try contacting the seller for a clarification.
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Post by RadioSouth »

Like Jack said that is a control head part #. Motorola radios have many part/assembly #'s on them. It's not just a matter of finding a number somewhere on the radio to ID it, it's finding the right numbers.
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Post by xmo »

"That's not a model number"
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Correct. It isn't a model number - it's a part number. But is a valid number in this case.

The E in the FUE prefix part of that number indicates it is a UHF part. A VHF prefix part number would end in D and an 800 number would end in F.

For example, HLE4431A is the part number of a UHF Maxtrac PA. Non frequency band specific part numbers end with N such as HCN3217B, a Maxtrac control head.

So - why would Motorola tag a radio with a part number instead of a model number? They would do that when the radio itself is a part!

[as in a part of a larger something] In this case - the F in the FUE is the clue.

Motorola's Intrac product, a SCADA system, often incorporated radio transceivers into the RTU's [RTU = Remote Terminal Unit] Over the years they used many different Motorola radios in this manner including Maxtracs.

For example, FUD1672A is the PART number of a VHF, 150.8-162 MHz HT600 radio when shipped as a part of a Motorola Intrac2000 MRTU. The MRTU radio interface has configurations for Maxar, Maxtrac, Maxtrac trunked, Mostar, Darcom, MC Micro, and 'other'.

One reason they put the part number on the radio rather than the regular model number sticker is that certain modifications are made to the transceiver to optimize it for use in the Intrac application. These modifications are generally minor, such as bringing COR out through the front mic connector.

The radio will report a traditional model number when read with the Maxtrac RSS. For example, in one Intrac manual it states: "NOTE The model number programmed into the radio EEPROM is D33MJA73A5AK rather than the kit number FUD1841AA/AB stamped on the radio label."

FUD1841AA is a 25 Watt, 136-162 MHZ Maxtrac with 5 pin logic board.

One other thing you will note when you read one of these with the RSS is that the APC part of the serial number will be different. For example a conventional Maxtrac APC is 428 [as in serial # 428ABC1234] whereas the FUD / FUE Maxtracs will have an APC like 469 which relates the radio to the Intrac product group.
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Post by Max-trac »

I got a batch of Maxtracs that were FUF1031A, and they were 800 data radios. They had a special EPROM.
They also had another big sticker with frequency and ordering info etc that indicated model # F6985A.
They were really just a D35xxx with special firmware.

They did have this REALLY COOL 16pin to RJ45 socket adaptor on the back, FLN6433B

The firmware was FVN4042A which looks up to MODAC
The serial number was in the 214STNxxxx range.
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The model F6986A would be a MOSCAD part. I looked at one last week in KY. The MOSCAD RTU had that model number on the outside of the case, and inside is a Maxtrac 800MHz trunked radio, adapted for MOSCAD use.
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Re: Maxtrac= Diferent model number ?

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That "really cool" 16 pin to RJ45 adapter FLN6433B is used to adapt a MOSCAD (SCADA) controller to a MaxTrac or GM300 mobile radio. It is nearly identical to the FLN6746B IRRInet adapter, except for component values and placement on the PCB. The 6433 device routes the TX audio to the Flat TX input at pin 5, while the 6746 device routes the TX audio to the mike input at pin 2 and includes a DC blocking capacitor. I have created schematic diagrams for both devices, and I can provide them to anyone who requests them to wb6fly at verizon dot net.
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xmo wrote: The radio will report a traditional model number when read with the Maxtrac RSS. For example, in one Intrac manual it states: "NOTE The model number programmed into the radio EEPROM is D33MJA73A5AK rather than the kit number FUD1841AA/AB stamped on the radio label."

FUD1841AA is a 25 Watt, 136-162 MHZ Maxtrac with 5 pin logic board.
I hope I don't incur any wrath for bumping such an old thread, but I had a question about these particular radios. I bought an FUD1841/AB thinking it was going to be the low-split VHF, but it turned out to be high-split.

Is the AA model the only one with the low split? Is that accurate 100% of the time? I've been hoping to find a good Maxtrac for APRS use, but I need to be sure I'm scrounging for the right thing.
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