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MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:44 am
by JPriami
I recently purchased a MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT thats being used for an amateur 2M repeater.
I dont know much about these. I have been trying to research it a little online. I would like to find any useful pdf files that I can that have useful information about this unit too. Most of the info I find is related to the UHF versions. So I dont know what all applies from that to the VHF.
Also I would like to know is it software programmable & if so what do I need to look for?
Thanks in advance for anyones help.
Re: MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:33 pm
by Doug
Re: MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:45 am
by motorola_otaku
Negative on the RSS-programmable part, unless someone else has already converted it. If the control shelf has a 2-segment numeric LED display it's been converted; if it has a row of single LEDs and potentiometers it's still a CLB/RLB station and needs a R1801 suitcase programmer. Luckily the needed conversion parts are not band-specific so you can grab a cheap 800 station off Ebay and rob parts from it.
Biggest difference between VHF and UHF/800/900 stations is that the PA requires 24 volts. Other than that they're pretty similar and most of the programming, interfacing, and alignment procedures are the same.
Re: MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:36 pm
by JPriami
It has the 2 digit LED display. So that sounds like a good thing. If I had the software and cable could I change things like the PL tone? What's the name is the software? I see RSS mentioned in other post. But is there a version and build particular to the MSF 5000? Is it dos?
Also this is a 24v setup. I'm running a external cat 700 controller. I have to power that with a 12v PC power supply.
I ordered a Moto M1225 UHF mobile that's the 20ch 40wt version. I want to use that as a link radio. Is there a place within the repeater own power supply to pick up 12-14 vdc to power that mobile? I was told about something behind the PA on that power supply that might work. But I just wanted to confirm this.
Thanks for all the help
Re: MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:52 pm
by kcbooboo
I've got a stock C64RLB station in my basement and bought the software for it. It works great. The CLB stations require the suitcase. CXB and (I'll go out on a limb here) probably all RLB stations use RSS.
Bob M.
Re: MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:09 pm
by JPriami
The guy I bought it from says it came new with that led display. And that it's digital. I found a ticket from when the machine was new and sold. Dated 1994. And came set to a ham band 2m freq pair. Thought that was neat.
Re: MSF 5000 Model C63RLB7106BT
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:18 am
by kcbooboo
There are sources of +14VDC in the power supply, as well as +28VDC that's only for the PA. Other than the PA, the rest of the station uses the +14V supply, although it's not really regulated very well; the ferro-resonant transformer regulates everything. The entire RF tray has a fused +14V supply. There's an unused fuse on the supply that you can get +14V out of. I think it's called AUX A+. Otherwise, you can just probe around on the screw terminals of the large filter caps and add a fused wire from that to whatever low-current items you want to run. I've used LM7812 regulators between the MSF power supply and my CAT200B controller, just to give it clean power.
Bob M.