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Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:53 am
by W9ZU
I'm trying to use Dbox emulator on Windows 7 to run the MSF5000 RSS software. The software is running on the emulator, but I think I'm having a com port translation problem between the emulator and Windows 7.

Does anybody have any suggestions on running this software on an emulator with com port configuration?

Thanks

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:36 pm
by Wowbagger
Does the machine in question have "real" serial ports (i.e. implemented by a 16550 compatible UART), or just USB to serial cables?

Most DOS based RSS expects to be able to directly frob an old-school 16550 directly - expecting a DOS emulator to make a USB to RS-232 adapter look like a 16550 is a bit unrealistic -like expecting honesty from a politician.

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:06 pm
by wavetar
W9ZU wrote:I'm trying to use Dbox emulator on Windows 7 to run the MSF5000 RSS software. The software is running on the emulator, but I think I'm having a com port translation problem between the emulator and Windows 7.

Does anybody have any suggestions on running this software on an emulator with com port configuration?

Thanks
The only version of DOSbox people here seem to have any luck with is a specially modified version of 0.65. Is this what you're using?

This will likely let you program with GP300/P110/GTX/LSC/Maxtrac/GM300 style RSS. I haven't had any luck at all with HT1000/MTSX/MCS/Visar/etc, style RSS. No idea if it will work for MSF5000.

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:12 am
by W9ZU
Currently I was trying to use a computer with USB to serial port. I do have a computer available with the, "Old School," serial port so I will give it a try.
With regard to the post refering to a specially modified version of DOSbox 0.65. Does anyone have any information on what modifications need to be made?

Thanks for everyones thoughts!

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:07 pm
by wavetar
There's a couple of hoops to jump through, but it's not too complicated.

First, download the original DOSbox 0.65 here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/ ... e/download

Download the modified 'ocbus' exe file here:

http://home.arcor.de/h-a-l-9000/dosbox_ ... _ocbus.zip

Download required DLL files here:

http://builds.tharos-online.de/current_dosbox.zip

Install the original 0.65 first, then replace the exe file in the DOSbox folder with the 'ocbus' modified exe. Then take the 3 DLL's and place them into the same DOSbox folder as the exe file. Ignore the exe file that comes with the DLL's.

Once all that is done, you must go into the DOSBox.conf file with notepad & set and save the following:

serial1=directserial realport:com1 ocbus
serial2=disabled
serial3=disabled
serial4=disabled

That's it, things should work for you after this...although I don't know if MSF5000 will work.

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:54 am
by W9ZU
Wavetar,

Thanks for all the info...I've got a computer with a serial port and new XP image ready to go, I'll give it a try.

Thanks Again for your time,
W9ZU

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:25 am
by motorola_otaku
It might work if you program through the SSCB mic jack, since that uses Bus+ and ground like a Maxtrac. And if you brick it at least it's easy to recover, although I'd expect a communications error to pop up before that.

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:20 pm
by wavetar
W9ZU wrote:Wavetar,

Thanks for all the info...I've got a computer with a serial port and new XP image ready to go, I'll give it a try.

Thanks Again for your time,
W9ZU
No problem. Let us know how you make out!

Todd

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:08 am
by maxkelley_kc2spy
I'm pretty sure I've used unmodified Dosbox 0.65 with a USB-TTL serial cable and was able to read/write an MSF5000 no problem...
What is this "ocbus" supposed to do?

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:08 am
by Jim202
wavetar wrote:There's a couple of hoops to jump through, but it's not too complicated.

First, download the original DOSbox 0.65 here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox/ ... e/download

Download the modified 'ocbus' exe file here:

http://home.arcor.de/h-a-l-9000/dosbox_ ... _ocbus.zip

Download required DLL files here:

http://builds.tharos-online.de/current_dosbox.zip

Install the original 0.65 first, then replace the exe file in the DOSbox folder with the 'ocbus' modified exe. Then take the 3 DLL's and place them into the same DOSbox folder as the exe file. Ignore the exe file that comes with the DLL's.

Once all that is done, you must go into the DOSBox.conf file with notepad & set and save the following:

serial1=directserial realport:com1 ocbus
serial2=disabled
serial3=disabled
serial4=disabled

That's it, things should work for you after this...although I don't know if MSF5000 will work.



The DLL file is not available.

Jim

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:50 am
by W9ZU
Thanks...I'll give this a try!

Re: Using Emulators for MSF 5000 DOS Software

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:17 pm
by com501
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