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Hello all! I have a nine year old son who just passed his ham license. I would like to get him a radio that he could use to talk on the local repeaters. I would like a way to remote inhibit his radio should he not follow the rules or should his mother decide to use it to cause problems. (I am divorced and his mother is a trouble maker.)

I would like to get him a radio that I could remotely inhibit kill or stun if I need to. I greatly appreciate everyone's response in advance.

Brian
N5KIE

Why do you need to remotely disable the radio? If the kid acts up, take the damn thing away from him! Why worry about remote disable?

OK, your kid might make trouble for some period of time before you get face-to-face with him. So what? - he might make trouble for some time before you were able to remote kill his radio, too.

Wowbagger wrote:Why do you need to remotely disable the radio? If the kid acts up, take the damn thing away from him! Why worry about remote disable?

Um, he explained it in the original post.

Sorry, but I still don't buy it. If the kid is responsible enough to have a radio, then remote disable isn't needed. If the kid's mother has a high enough probability of making trouble, then don't let the kid have the radio when he's at the mother's place.

The child is responsible enough. The mother has mental health issues. I feel that my son should be able to do what he enjoys and has earned. I just want the ability to kill it if needed. He would only operate on one repeater in our area. (That is all I would program it for.) I should be able to kill it at the first sign of any problem. It is also the only way that he could talk to me as she will not let him call me on the phone during times that I don't have it.

Wowbagger wrote:Sorry, but I still don't buy it.

Deleted my message

Thank you very much escomm. I appreciate your help. I'll keep looking around.

The MDC1200 stun/kill function is part of the Motorola console systems and, to the best of my knowledge, is not available in mobile or portable units. It is a bit of a "secret" coding system I guess.

Edit: Let me clarify a bit - the ability to transmit a stun/kill is only in the console systems to the best of my knowledge. Any Motorola mobile or portable that has MDC enabled on Rx can be stunned/killed, but I do not believe the ability to stun/kill can be done from a mobile or portable.

Are you afraid the mother may abuse the radio or the child. The Ham commuinty has a way of policing itself when kids of hams abuse the radio. I know a few locals that have had to make a phone call to the old man to get his kid off the air

This almost sounds like the same person from another post that got a radio inhibited and now is looking for a way to get it back? Funny how both posts are from new users? I may be wrong but just sayin'

I doubt it is the same person, the first was for a improperly programmed radio, and not a portable.
If I remember the post, it was an Astro Spectra.

This was the original posting:
Radio accedently keyed in to a wrong freq, radio DEAD
by HQRADIOHQ » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:15 pm

Ya, that's the post and it was a ht1250. and he claimed the department restored it but then again asked how to get around it? Just seems funny? Now somebody asking how to stun a radio? Seems like somebody is looking into how it's done to get to how to undo it?

My post is 100% genuine. I want a radio that I can stun/kill from another radio. Preferably cheap. Preferably Motorola. But I can use whatever. I have been told that an Icom 3021 does it but they are $395. I have some MT2000s and MTS 2000s that I would like to use if they are capable. I get my son first third and fifth weeks of the month and some extended summer time. I am more concerned with the mother abusing the radio and blaming the child. I am not going to go into detail but the mother has some mental issues.

If someone can help please let me know.
Thanks,
Brian
N5KIE

My opinion is not to let him have the radio at her house. If he wants to enjoy the hobby let him do it with you. If its a matter of the child not being able to talk to you when he is supposed to and the mother is not letting him thats up to the police and courts to handle.

Elmimate the problem and not let the radio end up in her hands keep it at your house.

Am I missing something here? Isn't it impossible for plain old HT to
send a stun/kill command to another radio? If so that would seem to
answer the OP's question and put an end to the discussion.

I found out Vertex has a radio that does stun/kill/revive via 5 tone. I am looking for info on that if anyone knows. I was told that there are filters in the repeater that won't allow it to pass MDC1200.

I'm almost positive the XPR series TRBO radios can send the inhibit in analog mode with MDC. For a fact they can do it in digital mode. Seems to me I tested it several years ago & it worked with MDC...

Yes there are several brands of radios that will allow you to send Stun/Revive commands.

The kenwood tk270g can be stunned via a dtmf string.

If you are dealing with an existing radio, you might take a look at the Transcrypt scramblers -- not for their scrambling capability (which would be illegal on the ham bands) but rather the ability to remotely stun the radio. You would have to install it and probably have access to test gear to set it up.

You might also consider some of the relatively inexpensive Chinese radios -- e.g. Wouxon -- that advertise stun / kill capability. While these radios are no match for a Motorola, they are probably a lot easier for a 9 year-old to handle than a MTS2000 or similar size radio. Also, there's a choice of models with and without displays, etc. Some of the latter are pretty cheap.

Fred
W6WAW

Dropping them works pretty good too. It's band neutral, and generally supported by all signaling protocols.

Not if it's an MT1000.