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Wall of shame installations
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:12 pm
by kb4mdz
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:47 pm
by Bill_G
I like the double hose clamp. It's a nice touch.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:10 pm
by kb4mdz
Thanks, Bill. I always forget how to load pictures.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:18 pm
by kb4mdz
How would you like to be business or public safety entity paying for this installation:

Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:23 pm
by Bill_G
You gotta get rid of the .html and other stuff at the end leaving just .jpg suffix.
The bucket is very classy.
ps -This one has a lot of spaces in the filename making it difficult to link.

Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:53 am
by FMROB
at lest they used rg142, lol. I am going to dig thorugh my pics. I know that I have some classic shots.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:10 pm
by kb4mdz
And yes, that is mouse feces all over the floor and everything else and all the other repeaters in there. Never thought when I went into this biz that I would be encountering such health hazards.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:35 pm
by Bill_G
Yep. Mice are a problem everywhere. And where there are mice, there are snakes to eat them. I have several sites I've learned to wear tall boots, kick rocks, tap stuff with a stick, and generally stomp around just to get the rattlers to speak up so I know where they are.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:18 pm
by jmfirefighter20
One of my sites is one of two locations in NH where Timber Rattlers nest. I've heard stories from other people in the office about pulling snake skins out of the power supplies on some of our equipment up there. I was told to always look before I put my hand in anything up there.......
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:14 pm
by kb4mdz
Anyone have pics of places where the surge suppression is a couple overhand knots in the power cord, to keep lightning form entering the power supply?
Come one, come all. Spider webs, mouse turds, weeds, bird nests, snake (live, deceased or shed skins). Stacked radios, open circuit boards, you name it we wanna see it. Tell the good people that somebody paid real money for this work by a 'professional'
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:18 am
by kb4mdz
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:54 pm
by escomm
It obviously did it all by itself, duh
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:04 pm
by FMROB
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:45 pm
by FMROB
Figured I add one good one, at lest I think
Getting ready to crane lift a ground rigged 120' antenna pole. Fancy crane work by the boys.

Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:34 pm
by twowayradiony
Jeesh that work looks similar to the work a local MSS up here does!!
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:22 pm
by Bill_G
You'll like this one - I was just at this site in Idaho day before yesterday. Just getting home today. This is a cell carrier site. Several of them are colo'd on the same tower. We were doing midnight work during the maintenance window. Take a look dead center of the picture. See the 2ft dish? This is a four leg box frame tower that's only about 50ft tall because of the hilltop elevation. It has a bunch of stuff on it including this 2ft dish
INSIDE the tower shooting across the top of the 6ft foot dish and through the cross members.
!
Not our work.
We were there to drop the 6ft, put up a new 4ft, put an ice shield over it, align it, and call it a night.
Yes, we tried our best to ensure the new ice shield did not obscure the 2ft inside the tower any worse than it already was. Good luck with that boyz.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:12 am
by FMROB
Very special in deed Bill.

Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:01 am
by Bill_G
Rob - you have some jaw dropping pictures, and unfortunately, I've seen work like that myself. Honestly, I think it indicates more a lack of mentoring and leadership than a lack of skill. No one showed them how it was supposed to be done. "It's a training issue" is my judicious phrase.
Years ago we finally won a contract from our competition to install a new system for an agency we had romanced for a while. There was a lot of hokey doke going on at their prime site. Not quite as bad as a repeater on a bucket, but let's say that cable management was not part of their skill set. We put in four racks of equipment with wiring and hardline that looked like conduit. Work of art. That forced our competition to up their game, and now they do pretty good work.
Of course, that workmanship costs more, and it opens the door for the next glove box radio guy to blow into town charging $35/hr. He gets a few customers, but eventually they get tired of lackluster performance and reliability. Over the last couple years I've gotten to replace systems I put in twenty years ago that have had very few outages because it got built right. The site log book reads "PM, PM, PM, PM, site audit, PM, Air conditioner, PM, Power supply, PM, ...." all through the years without a single problem with the majority of the equipment. It goes in once. I love doing that.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:18 am
by FMROB
Spot on bill,
Sad to say that most of the work that I see I know was done by guys that should know what they are doing. It feels good to have happen exactly what you said happen. Install it right the first time, good PM program and it just works. It is just a good feeling to do good work and at the end of the job step back and know that it looks good and will work.
Rob
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:32 pm
by MassFD
But Rob
No one told us not to use the connector as a climbing peg to reach the toilet paper stored on the shelf above the radio LOL
It was a Janitors closet first till you came in with all your dang radios

Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:22 pm
by Bill_G
Something tells me you speak from experience....
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:40 pm
by MassFD
Bill
Not in my place but have seen it in many others, the 1 that is stuck in my mind is a site that had all the inter rack cabling run on the floor. It was imposable to walk between racks without steping on cables. Sad part is a lot of them were old unused never removed cables with new stuf on top. They seemed proud of the installation, I have seen cleaner piles of cable in the scrap yard wating to be weighed in.
Hey Rob, Forgot to mention, real nice job on that Monopole. Sure wish we could have done ours that way but glad we did not. I am just happy ours went up without tearing the cross arms off.
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:08 am
by kb4mdz
FMROB wrote:Very special in deed Bill.

Nice layer of dust in the grill; appropriately climate controlled location, eh?
Re: Wall of shame installations
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:20 pm
by FMROB
Kevin,
Thank you. We have done a few poles on the ground and I am getting spoiled quickly. So much nicer working on terra firma, then swinging 120' up in the air. It is however a real PIA to pull the cable through the pole and out the holes, especially 7/8 or larger.
We roll the cable up about 10' above grade and hang it from the pole, so the crane picks to pole freely. I would assume the amount of cable would be prohibitive, we have rolled up about 7 runs of 7/8 that were about 70' long, and it was a task. I also like to quickly temp. terminate the lines and give them a sweep to make certain that what is going up doesn't have to come down. Other than that works well.
Rob