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I am involved in the public safety community and have a definitive need for two radios. However, saying that I would like to experiment with APCO-25 on MURS. Is this acceptable per the FCC rules, it seems like it is to me. Where should I start to purchase such said equiptment. I am already running other radios on MURS that compliment the VHF public safety frequencies that I am using. Also as I understand digital is not allowed on GMRS as well as DES/DVP, ie.?

CAPTLPOL wrote:I am involved in the public safety community and have a definitive need for two radios. However, saying that I would like to experiment with APCO-25 on MURS. Is this acceptable per the FCC rules, it seems like it is to me. Where should I start to purchase such said equiptment. I am already running other radios on MURS that compliment the VHF public safety frequencies that I am using. Also as I understand digital is not allowed on GMRS as well as DES/DVP, ie.?

APCO is not allowed on GMRS?

I know encryption is not allowed but APCO should be, Both IMBE and VSLEP are allowed on HAM freqs and they seem to be the tightest on rules.

I hear 2 GMRS repeters here with encryption, 1 uses MDC squ to open the receiver and I know by the preamble that they are using MTS2k's for handhelds.

The only rules for MURS should be bandwidth and power.

Heh, Been wrong before tho!

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Regardless of whether or not encryption would be/is permitted on the MURS channels, I believe that the FCC writeup requires type acceptance for equipment used in this service. I haven't seen any such radios yet, and I suppose that a lot of people are ignoring the type acceptance thing, but maybe for a public safety agency to ignore the regs would not be such a good idea.

Tom, W2NJS
...in D.C.

Tom in D.C. wrote: I haven't seen any such radios yet, Tom, W2NJS
...in D.C.

Walk into CompUSA or BestBuy up here and they sell them next to the FRS/GMRS radios!


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I already have those stupid Columbia Telecommunications MURS along with other radios. I want to expand my horizons and talk on APCO-25 so only those who are either technicaly advanced, have the new Uniden scanner or other such device can listen in. I have to share one of the five frequencies with the area Wal-Mart and some small apartment maintance guys and the like. I just thought I would have it just in case the county decides to go VHF digital anyway. I would have a definitive use for the features of the radio anyway. Just thought it would be nice if I could try to use APCO-25 for my personal use just becasue it is their.

I believe the type-acceptance thing relays to a radio that was produced after the rules of effect. I could be wrong, or it may just be my interpretation.

CAPTLPOL wrote:I believe the type-acceptance thing relays to a radio that was produced after the rules of effect. I could be wrong, or it may just be my interpretation.

There's no restriction on any radio as long as it fits under the rules

25Khz on the 2 154Mhz channels
12.5Khz on the 3 151Mhz channels

no more than 2 watts of power from the radio

You could use a classic p110 if you wanted to, granted it was the 2 watt version.

20 khz on the 154s and 11.25 on the 151s. 2 watts but no ERP limits. I setup and use the lastwo MURS on my ASIII.

So is anyone using IMBE on MURS?

CAPTLPOL wrote:So is anyone using IMBE on MURS?

Hey!!!! a four and a half years old bump

Grog wrote:

CAPTLPOL wrote:So is anyone using IMBE on MURS?

Hey!!!! a four and a half years old bump

Yes, of course... I have 3 radios that can do it, I talk to board members at dayton with IMBE too, and my dad on occasion. He has two IMBE VHF radios as well. One big happy family.

-Josh

I do it.

Of course now after my intial request, it appears that digital scanners are far more prolific.

Then go encrypted.