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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 10:12 am
by jim
At one time, I saw a program that would quickly display (in Hertz) the frequency of a tone fed into the sound card's input, such as QCII tones. Does anyone have this program or know of it?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:03 am
by Chris
There is a program by SteakSandwich software called Wintone 2.0

Its a bit dated but I think it is what you are looking for.

Chris

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:16 am
by gafd6913
If you want to generate tones on your computer, you can use a program called NCH Swift Sound. You can generate tones on your QCII tones, save them to a wav file, then splice them together. I use this method to test my pagers.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 11:42 am
by phrawg
he wants to READ tones, not gen them.

READ the post

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:16 pm
by Bob
I've played with WinTone in the past, but couldn't get it to decode QCII tones. It did PL and DTMF great though. Was I missing something?




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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:20 pm
by alex
On 2001-12-28 14:16, gafd6945 wrote:
If you want to generate tones on your computer, you can use a program called NCH Swift Sound. You can generate tones on your QCII tones, save them to a wav file, then splice them together. I use this method to test my pagers.
While not in the true spirit of the post, a MUCH easier way to do that is the following:

Run qbasic (from either within windows, or dos... you gotta find it first!) and use the following command:

sound([tone frequency],[duration])

Duration is in MS.

so:

sound(1039.8,150)
sound(569.1,200)

would be a "980" tone (might be off a little bit on the numbers). Run this, and it will generate the tones, setting off any pager that you happen to be testing (providing you hold the radio's mic up to the speaker the tones are coming out of...

Remember - don't test this on public service bands, or use a radio that will transmit into a dummy load as to not cause any trouble with your local public service organization... It does work, might require some minor tweeking of the above mentioned durations.

-Alex

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:32 pm
by phrawg
Am I the only one who can read here ?

didn't the original question ask how to
R E A D tones not generate them.
Something strange here. Now another answer on how to generate tone. Hmmmm.......

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:42 pm
by alex
OK, look at MY FRIST LINE:
While not in the true spirit of the post, a MUCH easier way to do that is the following:
If one would READ the first line (granted i could have said while not in the true sprit of the origional post), you would see that I already acknoledged the fact that the other persons answer was not in the spirit of the question.

Not trying to start an argument, but simply defending my post.

-Alex


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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 1:55 pm
by jim
I have the GVA signal generator. This program allows you to enter up to 3 frequenices and duration of each and plays them sequentially. This program is GREAT for generating tones because you don't need to splice them.

I need a decode program to "read" the tones.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:22 pm
by phrawg
ok Alex I re-read and see what you were trying to say. Answer to the other post
about generating. Seems like sometimes
folks dont really read and comprehend too
these days. Me included on that one.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 4:50 pm
by Search
I use a program called Cool Edit 96, you can take a .wav or simular file, highlight the individual tone and then use the frequency wavelength decoder and it will give you the tone's (hz). Any questions, feel free to email me.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2001 9:37 pm
by alex
On 2001-12-28 19:22, phrawg wrote:
ok Alex I re-read and see what you were trying to say. Answer to the other post
about generating. Seems like sometimes
folks dont really read and comprehend too
these days. Me included on that one.
:smile: Don't worry about it. Have a good night (er... morning...)

Jim - sorry about going back and forth with someone in the middle of your topic :smile: Hopefully you find the answer your looking for.

-Alex

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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 11:22 am
by jim
No problem! A good fight/arguement is always fun on Batboard.

Happy New Year all!

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 4:27 pm
by Jonathan KC8RYW
I agree with Chris L.

I use CoolEdit 96 anytime I want to decode QCII tones. Not only can you "see" the tone frequency, but you can also check the amplitude of each tone.

PS: If you try hard, you can still find a download of CoolEdit 96.

Don't bother with CoolEdit Pro/2000 or whatever they want 300 bucks for. Unless you are going to record a top-40 CD, you don't need it.

CoolEdit 96 will do the job just fine.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:12 pm
by Search
I was looking for a site to download Cool Edit96 and came up with this link, hopefully it will work for you guys who were interested in it. Thanks
http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/c ... t_96.shtml
ChrisL

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2001 7:16 pm
by RadioSouth
While we're on the subject of tone decoding
anyone know of a self contained unit that would hook up to a scanner to decode QCII tones? (Something like what OptoElectronics makes to decode PL/DPL/DTMF codes).
Thanks !

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:20 pm
by jim
I used Cool 96 decoder and it works well. I did, however, notice that some tones are off by 1 or 2 Hertz. This may be on my end or on the transmit end.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:33 pm
by radioEd
On 2001-12-29 22:16, RadioSouth wrote:
While we're on the subject of tone decoding
anyone know of a self contained unit that would hook up to a scanner to decode QCII tones? (Something like what OptoElectronics makes to decode PL/DPL/DTMF codes).
Thanks !
Self Contained units, compare optorlectronics & check out http://www.hamtronics.com

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 3:38 pm
by radioEd
Speaking of sub-audiable pl tones. Anyone remember that Kenwood Portable model?(made about 4-5 years ago) It had a feature that displayed the (ham-repeater) pl on the display! Too bad I don't see many of them around? came in handy in vfo....

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 4:58 pm
by raymond345
Most new Ham radios show pl tones.
Kenwood 733,Yeasu 2600 etc.

Raymond from Canada

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 5:23 pm
by raymond345
Ramsay Electronics from New York
make a $150.00 reader. Works well from
a scanner. Raymond from Canada

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:13 pm
by jim
Now we need to come up with a Windows based program that will display/decode DTMF tones that are fed into the sound card!

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:24 pm
by radioEd
Think I saw one on this forum! A day or two ago?
Could be on this post Page 1 ?


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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 9:57 pm
by Chris
Wintone 2.02 will do just that. It will decode DTMF in real-time via soundcard input or through wav playback. It will also decode CTCSS tones.

Chris

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2001 10:30 pm
by radioEd
Yea! thats it Chris! (thought it was here) but I get some error messages on Win98. Made for Win95/NT!.good thing I got an old tone reader, from Bob Grove (Grove Enterprises) several years ago! When he was making more products than books!
happy new year!!!

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:50 am
by Chris
That error message is easily fixed in Win 98. I still use it. Go into your audio properties, and change your playback and record device to game compatible device. That error message will go away and you will be decoding.

If you need further assistance, private message me and I'll get you up and running.

Chris

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 7:10 am
by jim
I just got Wintine 2.02 working on DTMF. It took a little playing around with timing, but it works great!

Thanks all!

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 6:07 pm
by radioEd
On 2001-12-31 09:50, Chris wrote:
That error message is easily fixed in Win 98. I still use it. Go into your audio properties, and change your playback and record device to game compatible device. That error message will go away and you will be decoding.

If you need further assistance, private message me and I'll get you up and running.

Chris
Copy That! thanks for the tip! happy new year!

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 11:07 pm
by Mike 701
In WinTone, I can't get it to decode the CTCSS tones, what am I doing wrong here. I made sure I added the tones correctly. Keyed up, won't decode. I played w/ all settings, not working. DTMF works fine though. Thanks.

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2001 11:29 pm
by radioEd
Look up a few posts to the Name: Chris (about 3 posts up) Send him a pvt message. I had errors in Win98 & he got me out of it! on the posts above! in audio properties Posted: 2001-12-31 09:50 look for this time stamp post! check with him! happy new year!

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2002 12:03 am
by Mike 701
Thanks for all your responses to my ?'s radioEd. I seem to have it working ok now. Happy New Year!