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ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:19 am
by ExKa|iBuR
Hi all...

If I program up some conventional frequencies as ASTRO only, using Digital Carrier Squelch, and there's encrypted transmissions on there, will an XTS3000 stay muted, or will I hear the encrypted audio?


-Mike

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:17 am
by Sundown
ExKa|iBuR wrote:If I program up some conventional frequencies as ASTRO only, using Digital Carrier Squelch, and there's encrypted transmissions on there, will an XTS3000 stay muted, or will I hear the encrypted audio?
Do you have an encryption module in the XTS (or is it VSELP with software), and do you have the right keys loaded?

Not sure if you don't have encryption there and you receive, but if you have it encryption capable with no keys the radio will say "KEY FAIL" when it receives the transmission.

You won't hear the encrypted audio unless you have the encryption keys loaded in the radio somehow.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:43 am
by Chrisjz
First of all, if the transmissions you are trying to listen to are encrypted then you will hear nothing without the proper encryption module and encryption key and you have a better chance at seeing god then getting the correct key unless you have a low friend in a very high place... :wink:

If they are only Astro digital, not encrypted, then yes I believe you will be able to hear them. If it is a trunked system then you will need to program all of the tunked channels and scan them (minus the control channel) to hear what you want. Some more of the knowledgeable people here may be able to give you more specific information then I, but I think this will put you in the right direction.

chrisjz.

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:25 am
by RocketNJ
The XTS programmed for digital CSQ will not unmute on encrypted transmission unless you have the proper secure module AND proper keyload as others have already pointed out.

Some digital scanners will unmute on digital transmission and you hear garbled audio. The Uniden 785 shows ENC in the display to let you know it is an encrypted transmission.

George

ExKa|iBuR wrote:Hi all...

If I program up some conventional frequencies as ASTRO only, using Digital Carrier Squelch, and there's encrypted transmissions on there, will an XTS3000 stay muted, or will I hear the encrypted audio?


-Mike

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:29 am
by ExKa|iBuR
Yes, what I meant was what George said.

My radio doesn't have an encryption module.

There's a bunch of conventional frequencies in use in my area that are used for surveillance I'd like to listen in on. Sometimes they are in the clear, sometimes encrypted, but always ASTRO. So, if I program them for ASTRO RX, when they are using encryption, I won't hear anything...as in the garbled audio.

Thanks :)

-Mike

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:14 pm
by ASTROMODAT
The encryption module would be a complete waste of money since you (hopefully) do not have access to the key(s), so what's the point?!

Larry

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:23 pm
by ASTROMODAT
Your best bet for monitoring IMBE traffic is the PRO-96. Why fight it?

Larry

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:29 pm
by ExKa|iBuR
Okay, so with people talking about keys and all that other stuff, I'm even more confused now.

Here's what I want...

There's some trunked talkgroups on the system here that are sometimes in the clear, sometimes encrypted. If I program them in, and they DO use encryption, will I hear nothing, or will I hear garbled audio? I don't have any encryption module, so obviously no keys.

-Mike

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:23 pm
by ExKa|iBuR
Shaun... msg me on MSN..

-M

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:15 pm
by ssd
MY XTS 3OOO M1 VHF will unmute on encrypted transmission. so i know when someone is talking encrypted

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:30 am
by wavetar
Wow, way to Lazarus a 10 year old thread. Gotta be some kind of record.

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:41 pm
by radioeng462
It is not legal to decode encrypted transmissions so don't even try unless you want to bunk with Bubba in the Federal Pen.

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:15 am
by Mfire39
wavetar wrote:Wow, way to Lazarus a 10 year old thread. Gotta be some kind of record.
I think you're right on that.. Prob the oldest thread brought back from a dirt nap that I've seen.. :lol:


-Marc

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:25 pm
by ssd
i just wanted to say my xts3000 will let me here it. why do you guys not like old threads brought back to life? thanks

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:34 pm
by mike m
Haven't you ever heard the " new years song" kinda along the same lines. Like dinosaur crap, but now that Marc has set the bar maybe I'll research the oldest thread and revive it just for nostalgia sake.

Re: ASTRO Encrypted?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:39 am
by Mfire39
mike m wrote:Haven't you ever heard the " new years song" kinda along the same lines. Like dinosaur crap, but now that Marc has set the bar maybe I'll research the oldest thread and revive it just for nostalgia sake.

Sounds like a good research project.. :lol: :lol: :lol:


-Marc