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SP-50 problem - please help!

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 2:13 pm
by radiocomms95
Hello. I have a /\/\ SP-50 10ch VHF portable. Here's the problem - when I key the radio, the PTT light blinks once and the radio unkeys. It dosen't always do this right after key-up - sometimes the radio can be keyed for 30 seconds or more before this happens. There is no low battery alarm sounded when this happens (the radio is enabled for this). Scan can be activated, but after the error occurs, no RX is possible. If I shut tehr radio off for a while, it usually "resets", and I can RX again.

The batteries are old and probably weak, and I have ordered replacements. All in all, does this sound like a battery problem, or is there something else going on inside there?

Thanks

sp-50

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 4:48 pm
by ka7wnf
Classic symptoms of a faulty Ni-Cad pack.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 5:19 pm
by Monty
Hello:

As mentioned above " Always " make sure you have a
good battery when dealing with the SP50 Series.

If you take the battery out, and if its a original
Motorola Battery, you should see 3 big numbers
and a couple of letters.

238LU means the 23 Week of 1988 is when the battery
was made. Batteries for these SP50's last about 1 1-/2
Years, and then need replacing to keep the radio working
in a optimum enviroment.

So, if you battery is 3 ~ 4 Years Old, its almost assured the
Battery is not able to deliver the current required by the
radio when in transmitt.

In the unlikely hood you buy a New Battery, and have the
same symptoms, then chances are very high you have a
Common " Volume Control / On / Off " swich problem.

I have replaced many of these Volume Controls to restore
the proper Transmitt Output Power.

So, either one or both can cause the trouble you have
reported.

Monty

Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 8:08 pm
by radiocomms95
Monty and ka7wnf,

Thanks for the information. 8) If I still have problems after I get the new pack, I'll let you know.

more on that power problem

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 12:23 am
by nyghthawk
Go with what Montey said, but also you may have a loose battery contact (used to get them in all the time when I worked repair) but really we can't tell much til you get a new batt and see how that goes.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 2:07 am
by Alan
238LU means the 23 Week of 1988 is when the battery
was made
Actually 238 would be the 38th week of 2002.
The first digit is the last digit of the year.
The second and third digits are the week of the year.

You have to get up pretty early to catch a trip up by Monty. It is pretty rare.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:30 am
by phonegunner
And of course .. you did clean the battery contacts didn't you? (both in the radio and on the battery)

Just an eraser off of a pencil is all it takes ...

Ted...

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:40 pm
by radiocomms95
Hello again,
I have tried several batteries, and nothing makes the radio work as it's supposed to. I had a friend check the volume knob, and he coulden't find any problems with it. It still unkeys, blinks at me, and loses RX sporadically. Any other thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:33 pm
by Monty
I have tried several batteries
With all due respects, I have seen this
happen with " many " batteries !

In order to " Rule Out " other possibilities, U
really should try a " Brand New Battery "

If you have a Brand New freshly charged Battery,
and the Tx lamp still blinks, chances are pretty
high you may have a defective On/Off volume
switch.

If you do not have a Brand New battery, you
could take your radio to a friend that has a
Current / Voltage Regulated Power Supply and
see how much current its consumming.

Monty

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:09 am
by Lewismc
I would make sure that your contacts are not broken I just recently had one of our radios do exactly what you are saying yours does. It appeared at first glance to be good but after taking a closer look I found the contact to be broken near the solder pad. The radio drove us nuts because sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't, but then it worked again and then it didn't.....

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:04 pm
by radiocomms95
How do I get into the radio?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:48 am
by VA3XDJ
If I had a dollar for every SP50 I've seen with a rubber band holding the battery on.

Reminds me of the days of the Motorola DPC550/650 or Ericsson DF388 cell phones, had to put a piece of folded cardboard to keep the battery from moving.

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:15 pm
by radiocomms95
Well, I got rid of the sp-50. I wasn't all that happy with it anyway...I'll stick with my trusty ht-1000! Thanks for the help everyone! :)

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:28 pm
by Monty
Hello:

Well ?

Looks like I got the radio. Once fixed, I will make a
post about what problem was found.

If anyone wants it after it gets fixed, let me
know...

Monty