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Portable generator "plug" connection
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:37 am
by VSP5151
Anyone know where to buy a 150 or 200 amp connector similar to what cellular companies use to connect a portable generator to a communication shed? Internet search hasn't helped.
Re: Portable generator "plug" connection
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:25 am
by spareparts
VSP5151 wrote:Anyone know where to buy a 150 or 200 amp connector similar to what cellular companies use to connect a portable generator to a communication shed? Internet search hasn't helped.
If it's a single phase 125/250 volt connector (North American Market), What you are looking for is an IEC 309-2 Connector. Hubbell Part Numbers are:
4100P12W - Plug
4100R12W - Receptacle
4100C12W - Connector
4100B12W - Inlet
FW60100 - Back box
PC100 - Closure Cap for Inlet
They show up on eBAY from time to time. If you buy them on eBAY, make sure they have the sealing gland kit, as the spares kit is about $125.00 US!
I deal with Crescent - they have branches all around the country. Not sure where you are so hit
http://www.cesco.com/branch.cwd and
locate a local branch. If you have a WWGrainger account, they searching on the part numbers above.
Martin
MOBILE Generator Plugs
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:54 pm
by RFdude
We use the Crouse-Hinds connectors for our MOBILE generators. Although the electrical service is 120/240V 200A, the generators are 25 kW (100A) since that's about the limit that can be towed with a technician van. All our generator spigots are only 100A. No issue since the technician is there, he can make sure the generator output isn't exceeded.
http://www.crouse-hinds.com/CrouseHinds ... A-1027.pdf and you can look up the larger versions if you need 150 or 200A.
Some of the cellular operators are going to cam-lock type mobile generator connections. These are individual pins for each line and neutral. You might find it cheaper to consider this.
RFDude.
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:08 pm
by c17loadsmasher
On the subject of generators...any links to information on wiring a large generator into a building. It's large enough to power the whole building, so no special wiring would be needed. This is spur of the moment questioning here, so I do not know the specifics (the gen set is at the fire station). Any links to resources would be helpful. The few "quotes" we got were that it would be extremely expensive, but it's something we want to look into with Hurricane Season looming here. Thanks...
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:10 pm
by spareparts
c17loadsmasher wrote:On the subject of generators...any links to information on wiring a large generator into a building. It's large enough to power the whole building, so no special wiring would be needed. This is spur of the moment questioning here, so I do not know the specifics (the gen set is at the fire station). Any links to resources would be helpful. The few "quotes" we got were that it would be extremely expensive, but it's something we want to look into with Hurricane Season looming here. Thanks...
Answers dependant on situation
Fixed genset or trailer mounted?
Life Safety compliant or not?
Generator can actually pick up load from no power situation
Case in point, the Automatic Transfer switch that was installed on a job I helped with was ~$1000.00 just for the switch! (ASCO 200 Amp, single phase). The price goes up rapidly as the capacity increases.
The list I quoted upthread for a portable 100 Amp set is over $2500.00 in connectors, boxes, and portable cord.
If the genset can't actually pick up the whole load, then you get into coordinated load shedding and staggered re-starting.
NFPA 110 is the guideline for this sort of thing. You may actually find the figures being reasonable after consulting the requirements.
Martin
Re: Portable generator "plug" connection
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:26 pm
by KG6EAQ
VSP5151 wrote:Anyone know where to buy a 150 or 200 amp connector similar to what cellular companies use to connect a portable generator to a communication shed? Internet search hasn't helped.
I'll have to dig around but I think I may have one or two. They're just taking up space so I'd let them go cheap as I have NO use for those big suckas!