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Orange Button

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:44 pm
by Two Tone
On top of the HT750's there is an orange button, what is this used for???

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:53 pm
by chtucker
Typically programmed to be a emergency alert button that an officer would push. Dispatch would typically recieve a radio ID that an officer was in trouble. Through RSS/CPS that button can be made to do alot of things.

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:42 pm
by thebigphish
our genius dept made that the "revert to home" button...rather than the emerg. ID

hum!

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:46 pm
by Jim2121
[quote="thebigphish"]our genius dept made that the "revert to home" button...rather than the emerg. ID[/quote]

See if you can get the details for the conversion?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:02 pm
by jedi_saber
some of the options are emergency siren, scan on/off, nuisance delete etc... Check the CPS for complete list.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:03 am
by K8TEK
My dealer programmed mine to repeater talkaround; I made him change it to emergency alert as soon as I found out.

Orange-colored buttons...

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:43 am
by Tom in D.C.
Same thing on the Vertex radios, whose orange buttons were obviously copied from the HT1000. Completely programmable in the RSS; my two VX-900s are set for SCAN/G-SCAN/NO SCAN sequencing by successive button actuations. Of course these are non-PS radios, otherwise I might have them set up in a different way.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:57 am
by nmfire10
On our Kenwood radios that don't use PTT-ID or emergency features, I use it for the backlight

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:34 am
by Two Tone
Wow! Thanks For the quick replys!

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:47 am
by KitN1MCC
on the HT-750 it can not be set up as Emergency only as siren on off

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:15 am
by HumHead
Kit:

That is only true of very early firmware versions. After one of the firmware revisions (somwhere in the R03.xx.xx range??) they enabled MDC Emergency support on the HT750.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:27 am
by nmfire10
What is this "siren" thin you keep talking about? What does it do, make a woo woo woo over the air??

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:33 am
by wavetar
HumHead wrote:Kit:

That is only true of very early firmware versions. After one of the firmware revisions (somwhere in the R03.xx.xx range??) they enabled MDC Emergency support on the HT750.
Only in the 16-channel versions, firmware version 5.00.03 & above.

Todd

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:07 am
by 2wayfreq
On our 5AN HT-1250*LS radios, you get "Siren" -you press that and it emits an ear splitting car alarm sound. Useless--good for scaring the crap out of custmers on the casino floor. :o You can also put Channel Revert on it and perhaps make up an Emergency channel for it to switch to. You have to have a 6AN and or Waris with firmware at a certain level to get the MDC alerting for dispatch.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:48 am
by KitN1MCC
i wish i would have known that when i picked up 2 in 2000 for the rail road i would have gotten 16 ch or just spent a little more for the 1250.


new in 2000 new batts 2004 in rail service still going strong

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:02 pm
by frodo
Yeah siren mode simply does that - emits a siren. It dosent do anything over the air though.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:04 pm
by nmfire10
It plays a siren over the speaker. What the hell is the point of that???

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:17 pm
by K8TEK
Kind of like the "panic" button on your car key fob...

In case you lose your radio and a kid picks it up and hits the button... Makes it easier to track it down.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:18 pm
by n9upc
similar to man down like on SCBA's.

We have this programmed on our portables at the station and it is only to be used when we are sperated for some reason and can not call for help.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:08 pm
by RKG
There is a downside to programmable buttons; virtually all fire departments in the Boston area use the same portables but have different button programming, which means that if you pick up a portable from another department (maybe you are running for coverage without a pilot), you don't know what the buttons do.

In my judgment, this problem is compounded by the practice of using the orange button for anything other than emergency, and therefore the programmers around here strongly discourage that. If your system doesn't take advantage of the emergency function, we program this button for null. It would be a bad thing for someone to pick up a radio, press orange thinking it will turn on the display light, and inadvertently send an emergency alert.

Boston-area HTs...

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:22 pm
by Tom in D.C.
RKG:

Just out of curiosity, what is the model/mfr of that HT that's widely used in the Boston-area FDs?

Regards,

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:29 am
by RKG
HT1000, for both the PDs and FDs. In last couple of years, some FDs have gone to HT1250s, and shortly all MetroFire (District 13) will likely migrate to XTS5000, which will become the MetroFire standard.

For my money, the HT1000 is one of the best portable radios ever brought to market. It has more than enough features, and later models will handle the narrow splits. It is nearly indestructible (except for the antenna connector); I've had some that had been sitting in 6 inches of water for a hour that were dried out and put back into service without a glitch. We program the A-B-C switch for Scan-Repeat-Direct, so it can be done by feel, and (since few departments use more than 3 or 4 channels), we duplicate the working channel programming from both sides of the selector stop (i.e., ch. 1 and 16 the same, 2 and 15 the same, etc.), so channel selection can also be done by feel. If only we could train users to accept that "antenna" and "handle" are not the same, we'd have a radio that will last forever.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:49 pm
by PropellorHead
On my STX821 it can be set to "Volume Set" "Emergency" or "phone patch."

Does anyone know why the Sabers use a secret hidden button for emergency activation located on the "secure/clear" toggle switch?

Louie

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:53 am
by jedi_saber
LACityFD wrote:Does anyone know why the Sabers use a secret hidden button for emergency activation located on the "secure/clear" toggle switch?

Louie
Don't know why, but I actually like it that way. I have had no inadvertent emergency activation on my systems and astro saber (unlike say my XTS radio). I dont think the button needs to be orange and easily accessible, as long as your personnel is trained on how to use the radio and send an alarm if needed. I feel as if the Saber not-so-orange button is also a lot more difficult to press my mistake - idk, works for me.

While on the topic: is there any other radio other than the system saber (and vx-5r yaesu, but lets keep to M only please) that will emit a beeping signal with any voice traffic on PTT? I think it is an excellent feature - that way you can always tell if an activated unit is talking...

As in: a) accidental activation b) dispatcher checks welfare over the air c) user resets and states no problem
Or
a) user in distress activates b) dispatcher checks welfare over the air c) unit in distress does not reset. instead checks over the air that he is "ok", but beeping in background, which cant be heard on the transmitting radio waves red flag...

Just a wild thought...

orange button ht1250

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:25 pm
by xxx2fan
Well some Fire Dept's use the orange button and siren through the speaker for use in man down in a structure. It can help to locate a firefighter by the siren sound. Mostly it was used before SCOTTS air packs had PAtH device for man down.

That all I know the in radio siren was used for.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:37 pm
by Nexrad16
WOW! I never knew that the secure toggle had a botton in there! Very interesting... What is everyone prgimg that button to do other than emerg?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:58 pm
by Grog
Some have the button, some don't. Here's what it looks like (on an "R")

http://oh3tr.ele.tut.fi/~ftp/modificati ... ssaber.jpg

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:51 am
by onetruemoe
wavetar wrote:
HumHead wrote:Kit:

That is only true of very early firmware versions. After one of the firmware revisions (somwhere in the R03.xx.xx range??) they enabled MDC Emergency support on the HT750.
Only in the 16-channel versions, firmware version 5.00.03 & above.

Todd
That's odd, I have an HT750 here (AAH25RDC9AA2AN), R05.09.06, and it doesn't support MDC alerting from the top button.

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:17 pm
by wa3rdm
I use mine for hi/low power.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:43 pm
by mr.syntrx
I use mine for MPL (on an MTS2K, no idea if a Waris can do the same.)

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:38 am
by Max-trac
On my Jedi series, I use the orange button for NUISANCE DELETE.