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ht1000 problems
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:36 pm
by fire_master_21
as i try to read my ht1000 get this
RIB PORT COMMUNICATION UNSUCESSFUL
PROBABLE CAUSES:
TSR backround program interferance.
Temporary high noise/traffic level.
Please correct. Press any key to continue.
can anyone tell me what this means I have a brand new motorola factory RIB that i just got today from Monty i have a good battery and I have tried using the wall wart also. I have never seen this before
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:53 pm
by OX
Describe your environment, DOS, Windows, etc. You should be using a true DOS prompt and not a Windows DOS prompt. This has been discussed over a hundred times before, try doing a search.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:59 pm
by fire_master_21
I know about using true dos and i have also done a search, and i am using dos. there is no other programs running on the computer also
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:31 pm
by Monty
Hello:
Having the Factory Rib box & Acc'y are a good
step in the right direction. Also, when I install
the Battery into the Rib Boxes, I also run them
through a final test " Just to make sure " they
are fully functional.
If you still, have a Radio Communications Problem
with the Rib Box, these are the important areas to
make sure are set up properly.
1. Make " Sure " your Com Port Settings are Correct
Most cases, you can chose between Com 1 and Com 2.
So, what ever your other programs are set to, make
sure the HT1000/Visar Program RSS is set the same.
2. The only other real target may be the Program Cable
you are using.
From time to time, and especially in the HT1000 / MTS Series
Program Cables, the " Pogo Pins " may get bent or damaged.
So, make sure the pins are OK and Especially make sure
the Cable you are using is made properly in the event you
are using a clone cable.
3. HT1000's can be programmed with a varity of Computers, and
the Best is a 386-486-25 Series running DOS 6.00 or 6.22, if you
are using a Pentium, although it may work with a CDM/Pro Series
Radio, they can be sometimes to fast for the HT1000.
Not having a good Rib to Radio cable could perhaps disable
the radio, so that is " Very Important "
Anyhow, other than the RSS being corrupted or installed improperly,
I would again check ( and you may describe the program cable )
you are using, and perhaps we can futher give you some ideas.
Monty
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:40 am
by wavetar
fire_master_21 wrote:I know about using true dos and i have also done a search, and i am using dos. there is no other programs running on the computer also
Which DOS mode are you using? If it's the 'reboot in MS-DOS mode' upon shut down or the 'F8-Command prompt only' upon start-up, that's your problem. TSR's (Terminate but Stay Resident) Windows programs can be a real issue in those modes, resulting in your error. Try a DOS 6.22 boot disk from
http://www.bootdisk.com , or use the 'MS-DOS mode for games with EMS & XMS support' icon located in the 'C:\windows' directory. Good luck,
Todd
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:20 am
by kmoose
I have had a low battery cause the TSR interference fault. I would forget about the COM port. If you had the wrong COM port, it would give you a "RIB Communication Unsuccessful: RIB not responding" error (I believe this to be true). I think that this error is probably caused by noise getting into the RIB somehow. I would try a brand new battery. Maybe try moving the RIB further away from the computer, you would be amazed at how much RF is emitted by some computers. You might try turning off any other electronic equipment in the immediate area, that you are not using. I don't know if you are trying to read this in a shop, or in your living room, or what. But, I suspect that the "high nois/traffic" level indicates that there is some kind of signal already present on the line(s) used by the computer and the RIB for programming. I know you said you have a good battery, but I have found changing the battery most often corrects this problem, for me at least.
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:54 pm
by Will
Common problem on some Jedi radios.... the radio IS BUSY!!!
Radio in scan, radio receiving a signal, radio picking up hash from the computer, ect;.
Always locate radio away from the computer, removing the antenna and using the special SMA adaptor into a dummy load also will help.
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:20 am
by CuriousGeorge
This computer used to work for HT1000s but now all I get are COM port errors. IBM Thinkpad, Pentium processor, It has two partitions -- one is pure DOS 6.22 and the other is Win 98.
HT1000 RSS v. 03.03.00 gives me the following during a COM Test
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RIB PORT COMMUNICATION UNSUCCESSFUL.
Probable causes:
RIB has no power.
No RIB or RIB malfunctioning.
Poor connection between RIB and PC.
PC (PC serial card) malfunctioning
Tried two different RIBs -- each with a different serial cable -- each with the same error. Tried one of the two RIBs on a different computer (Dell desktop, Celeron processor, booted from a genuine DOS 6.22 floppy) and got the same error.
Same error with radio connected to RIB or not.
Same RIB/serial cable/Thinkpad (Win98 partition) works fine to read an HT1250.
Any thoughts?
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:36 am
by bayfire300
mt mt2000 did the same thing ,i tried new batteries w/ no luck.
what i did was take a pencil eraser on the contacts where the cable meets the radio and shazamm.....it worked
try that
otto
Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:40 pm
by CuriousGeorge
More info...
1. As already mentioned, HT1250 (same machine/RIB/etc. but Win98 partition) works without a problem.
2. Tried three different HT100s, one of which I had personally programmed with this same setup. With and without the pencil eraser to the contacts. Same error as above with all three radios. Same error with radio on or off, radio attached or not.
3. Tried a Maxtrac. Again, one that I've succesfully programmed with the same computer/RIB/etc. I get an error #5 "Power failure"
4. Just to double-check the COM port under DOS, I tried a Vertex radio with the DOS programming software. Vertex cable (i.e., no RIB) - no problem.
Any thoughts?
Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:47 pm
by AEC
CuriousGeorge wrote:More info...
1. As already mentioned, HT1250 (same machine/RIB/etc. but Win98 partition) works without a problem.
2. Tried three different HT100s, one of which I had personally programmed with this same setup. With and without the pencil eraser to the contacts. Same error as above with all three radios. Same error with radio on or off, radio attached or not.
3. Tried a Maxtrac. Again, one that I've succesfully programmed with the same computer/RIB/etc. I get an error #5 "Power failure"
4. Just to double-check the COM port under DOS, I tried a Vertex radio with the DOS programming software. Vertex cable (i.e., no RIB) - no problem.
Any thoughts?
You appear to have a UART component problem.
That chip controls the COM port and is under control of DOS while you are using it.
What is the speed of the machine, and do you have any caching enabled while attempting to program the radio?
At times, I've had caching cause read errors, and once disabled, all was fine.
Is the copy of DOS a GOOD copy, with all necessary files uncorrupted due to copying errors or missing bits due to a defective floppy?
The computer is not communicating with the RIB, and since you tried other radioss, I would start suspecting the computer's hardware first.
I'd suggest the computer is at fault here, and not your programming gear!
WHile the HT-1250 may work with that computer, the hardware may actually be using other sections of the UART that are not defective, and allows the radio to program.
I've seen half dead chips do this time and time again, and I still find it interesting to see it actually happen, but it does.
I hope you locate and remedy the troubles!
Enterprise.....One to beam up!
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:32 pm
by CuriousGeorge
Third computer -- this one is an 486DX2/66 -- same errors.
One additional clue... both RIBs are "Sandy Ganz" style but from different sources. Using the Maxtrac RSS, we get the #5 power failure error using the RJ45 jack. If I leave the switch set to use the DB25 port, I get the same COM port error (computer cannot communicate with RIB, full text above, not the computer-to-radio error you get when you forget to turn on the radio) as I get with the HT1000 RSS, instead of the power failure error.
I tried two different 9V batteries and the AC adapter in every combination -- wall wart only, battery only, both -- with the same results.
To recap:
Thinkpad (Pentium 100MHz) laptop booted to genuine DOS 6.22 partition with on board serial port.
Tried two RIBs, one of which has been used previously with these same radios and same computer. Each RIB tried with a different serial cable. Tried with and without 9V batteries, with and without wall wart for RIB.
"COM PORT EVENT" error using the HT1000 or Maxtrac RSS (DB25) and error #5 "Power failure" using Maxtrac RSS (RJ45).
Same computer using Vertex radios and DOS programming software works fine. Same computer (Win 98 partition) using HT1250 and same RIB works fine.
Tried a Dell desktop (Celeron) booted to a DOS floppy gives the same errors with the HT1000 (same RIBs).
Tried a DEC desktop (486) booted to a DOS floppy gives the same errors with the HT1000 (same RIBs).
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:49 pm
by AEC
Your troubles appear to be 'RIB' related as both are of the same design and cause identical errors within each radio platform.
I would take a look at the Polaris RIB, they always work, and on all radios as well.
I have two and I have yet to have a radio it would not work with.
From HT600s to Sabers to Maxtracs and more.
I also have an Ebay special I use in the shop van that I obtained from Kawa, and this one works just fine on every radio I have programmed through it, although the DB-9 cable is getting difficult to find, I have had nothing but good luck with it and at the time I bought it, my total to my door was $39.00...great deal really.
Beg, borrow or steal a genuine Circle-M RIB and I think you'll have no more troubles, or at least, pick up a Polaris model, you can't go wrong either way.