VSLEP Digital Vocon

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:07 pm

So I have the fortune of being next to one of the last cities to still use VSLEP and I happen to find a vslep vocon. I have not gotten the vocon yet to read it.

If the board comes with a basic flash, do I need to use a VSLEP codeplug to upgrade or can I use any codeplug as long as it has what I want as far as options/band?

Either way it is coming in the wrong band so I will need to put an another code plug in.

Thanks,
Mike

willbartlett · Post by **willbartlett** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:29 am

I wondered why someone would pay that much for a vslep vocon. Nice that it was a 1 meg board tho....

What band do you need a vslep codeplug/srecord for? I have plenty of UHF low, one 800, but the 800 has no data in the dsp version field, so it may be a no go.

That was definitely a nick grade flashcode in it, certainly caught my eye till he emailed me the dsp info. I was watching it, but I have 2 1meg vslep vocons already, don't need another.

Let me know what I can do to help.

Will

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:46 am

Well, I had been looking for a digital IMBE vocon to replace the one that went bad in my astro saber. When i found this one I jumped the gun and assumed since it had the nick flash it was an IMBE board... not too smart.

Good news is that I have a use for a VSLEP board but it needs to be in 800 and have H38 to use to monitor the local trunked system,

As soon as I bought the board I recieved an email from another "ebayer" telling me to enjoy my vslep vocon because the seller provided him with the DSP as 5.01.04. In my next email to the seller I asked about the host/dsp and he said he didnt have it.... interesting...

Mike

chartofmaryland · Post by **chartofmaryland** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:44 pm

Oh, no

You didn't get bitten by mrfasinator, did you?

Sorry to hear that if you did. He couldn't answer with a straight enough response for me when asked about the HOST DSP.

CHART

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:03 pm

Well.. we shall see when I get it.

Still, I am wondering if I need to use a codeplug that was originally from a vslep radio or does it not care so long as it digital and the hardware takes care of the rest?

Mike

Post by **wavetar** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:41 pm

Fuel4300 wrote:Well.. we shall see when I get it.

Still, I am wondering if I need to use a codeplug that was originally from a vslep radio or does it not care so long as it digital and the hardware takes care of the rest?

Mike

You definitely need a VSELP codeplug. Forcing an IMBE codeplug into it will at best cause it to make ungodly sounds when trying to decode digital, and at worst cause an unrecoverable error. I'm sure someone can supply a VSELP codeplug upon request.

Todd

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:42 pm

wavetar wrote:
You definitely need a VSELP codeplug. Forcing an IMBE codeplug into it will at best cause it to make ungodly sounds when trying to decode digital, and at worst cause an unrecoverable error. I'm sure someone can supply a VSELP codeplug upon request.

Todd

Well then, here's my request. I need an 800mhz Astro Saber model III VSLEP codeplug only requirement is that is has H38 Smartzone,

Thanks in advance,
Mike

willbartlett · Post by **willbartlett** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:45 pm

Mike, check your email. I sent you what I had.

Will

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:03 pm

Excellent! Thank you!

Mike

chartofmaryland · Post by **chartofmaryland** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:21 pm

Outcome?

CHART

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:35 pm

I missed the mail today. I will stop by the post office tomorrow morning and hopefully be able to pick up the board and get everything installed and programmed. Then, its back out to western NJ on sunday and I will see how it all worked.

I will let you all know!

Mike

carbineone · Post by **carbineone** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:00 am

I am also in need of an 800 vselp codeplug is someone could please send one to me it would be greatly appreciated.

willbartlett · Post by **willbartlett** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:12 am

I'm happy to send out my 800 codeplug, but I'll wait to hear from Mike to see if it even works. When read, the radio somes up with xx.xx.xx in the dsp version field, so who knows what the situation is with it. I'd rather confirm operation before shipping it out to everybody. Let us all know how it goes Mike.

Tnx, Will

carbineone · Post by **carbineone** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:16 am

I believe vselp codeplugs show that type of reading in the dsp field.
I can let you know if it works today.

carbineone · Post by **carbineone** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:01 pm

The codeplug worked like a charm.
Thanks Will !

willbartlett · Post by **willbartlett** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:31 pm

Great, Hope it works for Mike as well.

Tnx, Will

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:12 pm

I finally got the vocon (after some post office issues) on friday afternoon. I put in my astro saber and much to my dissappointment its not even a VSLEP board - it has analog only "A" firmware. I emailed the seller friday night - still no reply. I am not surprised.

So now that I have been throughly ripped off for this thing I am no further along than before. I guess this project is just going to have to wait until mid-
January after winter break. I will keep an eye out for any other boards in the mean time.

For now; Any interested in an analog vocon?

Mike

chartofmaryland · Post by **chartofmaryland** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:53 pm

Damn shame

Was it in the end a 1 MEG or is it totally phucked up.... See, now that just isn't right. That seller is wrong for doing this to you... Hope you got the purchase protection with paypal.. Drop them a line and have them work out your problem after demanding a refund...

Wish you the best for the 175.00 HARD earned bucks.

CHART

Fuel4300 · Post by **Fuel4300** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:14 pm

Luckily it was not quite as bad as 175 - about 130 all told - but it still sucks. I emailed him friday night outlining my problem and told him if he would refund my payment less shipping and even ebay fees I would still leave positive feedback and I would be on my way. Two days later and no reply. Frankly, I dont expect to get one.

Unfortunately, I dont have the purchase protection. Hopefully I can recoup some of the money by selling the board.

As far as 1 M or 512 k I dont recall. I pretty much stopped once I saw the A firmware.

Thanks to all who offered their help with this. It has been greatly appreciated.

Mike

ogoun · Post by **ogoun** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:15 am

Hi all,

Now I must confess to being very new to astro vocon boards, even though I have a few, and an astro or two waiting for me to pay them some attention..

Can someone explain to me the hardware differences between different astro saber vocon boards..

As far as I know, there are only two, a 512k one and a 1024k one. This refers to the flash rom capacity of the HC11 control micro subsystem.

I believe both boards have electrically identical DSP sections, with 256k flash.

Surely to "convert" this hardware from one system to another, will only (haha.. so simple - not!) require that the firmware be flashed in both the HC11 and DSP sections to suit whatever moto system and version you desire, so long as the version of firmware is correctly sized and suited to the size of the HC11 flash memory (512k or 1024k).
Obviously, the codeplug determines much of how the firmware actually works, but the codeplug itself does not actually contain executable code, afaik.

So, if this is true, then having a 1meg vocon board should do the trick for just about any astro saber task I can imagine.. I supposed that this is why they are so rare/expensive on ebay, compared to the 512k ones...?

Am I right, or FOS? (full of sh!t)

Pete

Post by **alex** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:55 am

I have an astro spectra with a VSELP digial vocoder in it....

I'd rather have IMBE, you have something you'd like to swap? It's a 512k board.

I think the spectra came off the cleveland airport system or something like that which is still VSELP.

10-95 sold it to me at Dayton.

-Alex

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:28 am

chartofmaryland wrote: You didn't get bitten by mrfasinator, did you?

There is a reason said user has been banned from ever bidding on any of my auctions again. I sold him an AS3 - high bid was $600 and change. It was in perfect working condition when I sent it. Alex, Jaymz, and Yosh can vouch for the radio - they had all owned it at one time or another. Anyway, the guy said it needed to be flat-rated (couldn't provide me with any specifics) and insisted that I refund the $350 for the flat-rate service.

Back on topic: I have a couple VSELP codeplugs that I can email out. I owe a couple people here some other codeplugs, so I'll do it all at once.