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systems saber.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:19 pm
by clinton_radloff
how do i know if i have a secure module installed in my system saber. when i press the ptt button a continous beep is heard. does it mean its lost its programming.
please help
thanks
Clinton

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:51 pm
by poser
You could always open up the saber. (losen the two retaining nuts and pull the antenna connector, then lift the protective shield)

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:52 pm
by DJP126
how do i know if i have a secure module installed in my system saber. when i press the ptt button a continous beep is heard. does it mean its lost its programming.
All system sabers are secure capable & REQUIRE either a secure module or a bypass module installed. If you get the constant beep in both the secure mode and the clear mode, I would suspect the VCO not locking properly.

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:03 pm
by AEC
[/b]Continuous tone heard with PTT depressed and NO TX light, most likely means the VCO is unlocked, either from out of range info stored in the codeplug, or it is defective...I'd wager it's the codeplug info.

If you had no module sin the radio, either a 'live' or bypass, you would hear no audio from the speaker.

If the toggle on the control top was switched to 'secure', and there was no valid key stored, your display would read: KEY FAIL and double beep over and over.

A bypass module would simply give you the beeps.

If your codplug info is valid, and saved; reprogram the radio again to see if the VCO locks the second time around, but if not, run the alignment part of the RSS and look at the settings if you can.

To get the radio's current alignment settings, the radio has to be able to be read, then enter the service portion and take a peek at what's currently stored in the radio.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:00 am
by n1pj
The continuous tone when you key up could also mean TX disabled on the channel. All my system sabers make that continuous tone if I try to key up the radio on a PS frequency I have disabled TX on. You should read the radio with the computer and check the frequencies you are on. Make sure TX has a frequency and is not blank.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:07 pm
by AEC
Very true...a continuous tone means several things, but first and foremost, there are probably several '???????' in the transmit frequency box.

Systems Sabers do NOT like those in many boxes, especially in frequency entries and revert channels for phone operation to name a couple.

I suggest you have a corrupted codeplug.

If this is so...the RSS should have identified the problem and popped up a dialog box warning you of this and asked if you want to correct it at that time.

If you enabled SCAN and had no channels added to the scan list, the RSS would have indicated you don't have any valid scan lists entered and it would prompt you to repair the problem then continue.

Correct all problems, then reprogram and I think you'll be good to go afterwards.

But run the service option to ensure you are programming the proper values in the radio though as a precaution.