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Broken channel selector knobs on MT1000's,

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:19 am
by Charlied
possibly others.

Gorilla glue works.

I had my doubts.

I add so little to the site, I just had to jump all over this one.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:13 pm
by RadioSouth
Probably won't last long. The Genesis series knobs seem to dry out and just self disintegrate over time. I've replaced at least half the knobs on my Genesis radios (have 12 of them) and none were broken until they were turned then just fell apart. The speaker mics for this series aren't much better either, strain reliefs just turn to a tarry ooze, granted they were stored about a year in a warm garage, but to just break down like this pretty much sux.

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:18 pm
by Will
Radio South is correct. Only thing to do is order new knobs, and yes Motorola did change vendors/design.

Have the same problem with the spkr/mic cables and strain releifs. The angle strain relief is still available.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:19 pm
by kb0nly
Yep, been there done that, plenty of dried out knobs that look good until you try to use it. They don't break, they just crumble.. They didn't use the best plastic for them evidently.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:42 am
by WA3VJB
Damndest thing, but true, and apparently heat or sunlight related (UV). I have several mint HT600 and MT1000 examples that were stored somewhere near a window (maybe on the ledge???) and the knobs turned brittle, and cracked as soon as you put torque to them.

Same thing looks like it's happening on the PTT "lever" as they call it, that thin plastic rectangle over the push to talk button. Characteristic signs include a white milky surface of oxidation (or separation of plastic polymers) that you can wipe off.

I've got one of them that cracked the other week.
Order replacements while you can stil get them. Knobs are about $5, SQ/CH and the PTT lever is under a buck.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:04 am
by kb0nly
I've had a lot of them with the milky white PTT piece. I remember when i first started working on them i thought it was dust dirt or dust, but scrub as you may they won't ever totally come clean.

At least the plastic of the cases seems to be stable.

Re: Broken channel selector knobs on MT1000's,

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:44 pm
by ve7wdm
I, too, have noted this strange deteriation. Unfortunately, I have three unused, mint condition HT600's (with consecutive serial numbers) who's knobs have completely crumbled to dust. :-(. Has anyone on the forums got any replacements they'd like to sell? -Wes Martin.

Re: Broken channel selector knobs on MT1000's,

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:26 pm
by RadioSouth
They've been NLA for quite a while. I'm using MT500 knobs (metal) as a permanent fix. Channel dot on the knob doesn't line up to the right channel but the Vol. knob is perfect.

Re: Broken channel selector knobs on MT1000's,

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:38 am
by TomSlick
Sounds like a perfect job for someone with a 3D printer and some spare time.

Re: Broken channel selector knobs on MT1000's,

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:54 am
by WA3VJB
RadioSouth wrote:They've been NLA for quite a while. I'm using MT500 knobs (metal) as a permanent fix. Channel dot on the knob doesn't line up to the right channel but the Vol. knob is perfect.
Yes, I found that advice for the substitute knob on this board ! Many thanks. Here's what it looks like, installed:

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I found that the volume control shaft size is a little bigger on the MT1000 and I had to drill the MT500 knob a little to make it work. Still plenty of perch for the threaded key to tighten with.

Which reminds me, is there a known size to ask for when trying to buy the hex spline that fits these knobs? It's not a standard hex, with an extra flute on the flat sides. I've seen this type on knobs for military receivers, I think they're called hex spline rather than the conventional "Allen" type. I used to have one with my HT220 but it's long lost.

Re: Broken channel selector knobs on MT1000's,

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:08 pm
by AL7OC
I think that they are known as Bristol splines. You can find sets online.

PL