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Secure Repeater

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:32 pm
by WB4JGI
Hello all, I'm looking at setting up a secured repeater for myself and my company. I was possibly looking at transparent operation DES-XL, ie: if I change encryption codes I won't have to go to the repeater site as well. I am looking at using a MSF-5000 VHF with a secure card in it.

Are the MSF-5000's capable of transparent only operation?

What are the model numbers of the DES-XL cards/components I would need for it to work?

Is it possible to TX station ID in the clear just by programming the MSF to do so, without the need of an external controller?

Is it possible to operate the repeater in mixed mode? IE: analog/secure

If it's any help the radio's that will be used on the system will be Spectra's, Sabers, and MT2000's with appropriate encryption boards.

Thanks, I'm not used to the encryption part of this I just usually program the radio's.

Re: Secure Repeater

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:00 am
by Bruce1807
whitstu wrote:Hello all, I'm looking at setting up a secured repeater for myself and my company. I was possibly looking at transparent operation DES-XL, ie: if I change encryption codes I won't have to go to the repeater site as well. I am looking at using a MSF-5000 VHF with a secure card in it.
whitstu wrote:Are the MSF-5000's capable of transparent only operation?
Yes
whitstu wrote:What are the model numbers of the DES-XL cards/components I would need for it to work?
I think the transparent board is TLN3267, doesn't care what the algorithm is.

whitstu wrote:Is it possible to TX station ID in the clear just by programming the MSF to do so, without the need of an external controller?
In transparent mode the transmitter will send info in clear.

whitstu wrote:Is it possible to operate the repeater in mixed mode? IE: analog/secure
Yes

whitstu wrote:If it's any help the radio's that will be used on the system will be Spectra's, Sabers, and MT2000's with appropriate encryption boards.
My next question is why waste money on securenet when it sounds crap!

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:43 am
by WB4JGI
Will a Micor station take a transparent module? I think that is what's up there currently.

Micor Secure

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:44 am
by Hartley
Hi Whitsu,

Yes - but only if it is an encryption-capable station to begin with (different backplane). Converting a "normal" MICOR would be a real PITA (tho you might find one on eBay and move your working RF parts to the shelf).

73 DE Hartley