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XTS5000 Nextel Provision ?
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:24 pm
by Rayjk110
Do you think that in the future with the XTS5000 700/800MHz split radio, that Motorola would be able to develop it to work on NextTel's PTT network?
Just a thought -
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:27 pm
by spectragod
Yeah sure, let's move Nexthell into the 700 PS band........... great!
SG
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:29 pm
by batdude
nope, those two will never - ever - mix.
i'd be happy to have LTR trunking as a flash feature in the 5k tho - sure would prevent having to carry 1 old POS LTR radio and a 5k at the same time....
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:48 pm
by CTAMontrose
batdude wrote:nope, those two will never - ever - mix.
i'd be happy to have LTR trunking as a flash feature in the 5k tho - sure would prevent having to carry 1 old POS LTR radio and a 5k at the same time....
d
you too huh? man id KILL for LTR in an IMBE flashed XTS
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:08 pm
by mr.syntrx
Probably Icom's one saving grace on their P25 radios.
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:33 pm
by tvsjr
grem467 wrote:you too huh? man id KILL for LTR in an IMBE flashed XTS
Ditto... although my LTR stuff is a 450/480 system... and my UHF XTS is an R1.
Oh well - it'd be an excuse to get another XTS.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:31 pm
by Pj
Though...I have seen Nextel patched into a TRS....
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:20 pm
by mikegilbert
batdude wrote:nope, those two will never - ever - mix.
i'd be happy to have LTR trunking as a flash feature in the 5k tho - sure would prevent having to carry 1 old POS LTR radio and a 5k at the same time....
d
Oh, this one:

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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:35 am
by motorola_otaku
mikegilbert wrote:batdude wrote:nope, those two will never - ever - mix.
i'd be happy to have LTR trunking as a flash feature in the 5k tho - sure would prevent having to carry 1 old POS LTR radio and a 5k at the same time....
d
Oh, this one:
http://static.flickr.com/110/304774450_d8144a466c_o.jpg
Hey, I think I saw one of those in a pink blingbling version.
Ray, while it wouldn't be necessarily difficult (iDen is just 4-slot TDMA plus VSELP and some proprietary control and adressing stuff), it wouldn't be cost-effective nor would it fit into their business models. They already have "ruggedized" IS iDen phones (the i315, for example) that are still cheap enough to be considered disposable. Plus, and this is just me talking out of my

, but I don't see iDen being pushed very hard over the next 10 years or so, regardless of whether or not the rumored sale of Nextel's iDen network to the US Government takes place. It's old, it trashes the noise floor of whatever band it operates in, and once Sprint and Verizon perfect their PTT implementations there won't be much of a market for it.
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:19 am
by bellersley
What about the XTS5000LS+ version?
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:47 am
by Rayjk110
Ah alright. Thanks for the replies.
The reason I asked is because since the XTS5000 already operates in the 800MHz band, I didn't know if a new Flash Code Option along with a new Host/DSP would be able to open up the 800 Rf Deck and integrate the vocoding technology for nextel (unless it's just physically not possible to open up the 800 Rf deck to nextel freq's range)
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:51 am
by bellersley
The RF deck in an XTS5000 already works in the same range as Nextel. Nextel frequencies are intertwined in with the 800MHz commercial band (851-866MHz).
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:28 pm
by motorola_otaku
Rayjk110 wrote:The reason I asked is because since the XTS5000 already operates in the 800MHz band, I didn't know if a new Flash Code Option along with a new Host/DSP would be able to open up the 800 Rf Deck and integrate the vocoding technology for nextel (unless it's just physically not possible to open up the 800 Rf deck to nextel freq's range)
But that's just it.. there is no creating a "flash option" for iDen. It would require a complete rewrite of the firmware just to support VSELP. Then there's the TDMA part, which the XTS RF board in its current state may or may not support. In the long run, it's plenty doable, but just not cost-effective given the limited demand for such a beast. Oh, and forget about having IMBE and iDen at the same time.. that much is pretty close to impossible.
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:44 pm
by n7maq
All new Nextel units are AMBE, and VSELP.