MSF5000 repeaters in 900mhz - any interest?

Astrospec · Post by **Astrospec** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:00 am

Yes.. I would be most interested in a "Pair" my self . Let me know I'm not all that far away here in NY

w2ymm · Post by **w2ymm** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:54 am

Yes.. I am Very interested in a 1 or 2 my self . I can do the drive from LI NY.

MrPackrat · Post by **MrPackrat** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:30 am

Are there anymore of the 900 MHZ repeaters Left ??? I would be
interested In One.

Bill
K3ESJ

n9wys · Post by **n9wys** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:12 pm

I don't think ANY of them have become available yet... or am I mistaken?

motor59 · Post by **motor59** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:54 pm

Boy, how time flies....and yet progress is glacially slow.

I've been deployed OCONUS, and this is my first visit to the board in about 6 months. No longer involved with the radio upgrades at the utility company.

However, I had dinner tonight with one of my old cohorts, and he mentioned that the last of the MSF's were delivered to the storage warehouse in Paulsboro NJ earlier this week. (Only took them 11 months to do it.)

If anyone is still interested, here's the contact for more info:

Gregory C. Olds
Resource Recovery Specialist / Environmental Health & Safety Dept.
PSEG Services Corporation
2000 Frank E. Rodgers Blvd. South
Harrison, NJ 07029
Phone: 973-297-2602

Greg is the guy to call for info on purchasing these units. I have no information on pricing.

Can't believe it took so long to get to this point, but I am told that the radios are now available.

Good luck!

WB6DGN · Post by **WB6DGN** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:16 am

"Isn't this an 800 Mhz station? Since when is a 85 a 900 Mhz station? Shouldn't this be a 87?"

No. For some reason the MSF didn't use the '87' designation. These are 900Mc, 150watt stations from the model given. Also, for the person that asked about the VCO tuning to 902/927, the VCO's are the same as the 450 stations and are doubled (both TX and RX) in the RF tray. They will tune the ham band with no trouble.

If there are any stations that are not complete, I would like to get a control tray/RF tray (complete) I don't need the power supplies or PA's (maybe someone needs spares for those and would part with the parts I need). I just don't want to pay shipping for that heavy stuff.

Tom KB5DPE

SlimBob · Post by **SlimBob** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:02 pm

Quick, time to spin a 501c3 to buy them all and distribute them!

Post by **alex** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:22 pm

motor59 wrote:Boy, how time flies....and yet progress is glacially slow.

I've been deployed OCONUS, and this is my first visit to the board in about 6 months. No longer involved with the radio upgrades at the utility company.

However, I had dinner tonight with one of my old cohorts, and he mentioned that the last of the MSF's were delivered to the storage warehouse in Paulsboro NJ earlier this week. (Only took them 11 months to do it.)

If anyone is still interested, here's the contact for more info:

Gregory C. Olds
Resource Recovery Specialist / Environmental Health & Safety Dept.
PSEG Services Corporation
2000 Frank E. Rodgers Blvd. South
Harrison, NJ 07029
Phone: 973-297-2602

Greg is the guy to call for info on purchasing these units. I have no information on pricing.

Can't believe it took so long to get to this point, but I am told that the radios are now available.

Good luck!

I got a call today from Gregory. I had left him a voice mail at the end of the month. He's sending me a bid packet and some info by email/snail mail and says there are 137 total stations.

He said I could bid on as many as I wanted.

I live somewhat near to where these are located, so if people are rather interested, I may be able to help facilitate getting them. Let me know via PM.

If anyone called and left him a voice mail, he probably will be calling you as well.

-Alex

Radioman01 · Post by **Radioman01** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:38 pm

Are we Bidding on these things or has the pricing been set..
id be interested in 2 and i'll drive down from Ma.
any more info or should we just call them direct?

Tony
NN1D

wa6ifi · Post by **wa6ifi** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:23 pm

I would be interested in one or two of these. Unfortunately, I live in Colorado and shipping would make this out of the question. I _may_ be moving my daughter from Cleveland sometime this spring/summer and could make room for a cabinet in the truck. Othwise, Dayton is an option. Please keep me in the loop on this.

Dave Novotny,
WA6IFI
wa6ifi@comcast.net

Post by **alex** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:48 pm

I don't mind meeting people and going as a group to pick them up. My problem that I have is storage of the units. Living in NYC metro area does not lend itself to having space, so I don't have a place that I could store them, and then get them out to dayton for people who would want them.

I don't mind helping, but really I don't have the storage space to put them in. Could I maybe do something like pick up friday and hand off Saturday? Possibly, but I'd have to coordinate something where I could store the units.

I can speak to a couple of friends and see what they can do to help, but bottom line:

I can only probably move about 3-4 of these in my truck before I reach the carrying capacity of the truck. I can tow another 10,000+ without too much trouble, but I don't own a trailer.

So If people were wanting to do something like that, I would be expecting people to throw some cash together to figure it out.

In the end, I don't have a lot of time to coordinate. If someone wants to take the reins and come up with a plan, I will work with you guys to try and help execute it. I am sorry I don't have time to talk to each of you individually to help.

Someone want to step up and let me know what you want to do?

-Alex

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:24 pm

I called Mr. Olds today and received an email from him with photos of these repeaters (along with some Harris microwave equipment they want to unload). Things are beginning to move quickly. They want bids in within the next week or so. They have 137 units that they either have to move or scrap. Mr. Olds told me that he wants to "maximize the return to the company". As I sit here, I don't see much use for these repeaters other than for the ham 902 band or scrap value. Frankly, I think everyone who wants one of these can probably have as many as they want for $100 to $125 per unit. What's scrap value? $40? $50?

My group is probably going to bid $100 or so per unit with a goal of buying 6 or 7 units.

John
N1OTY

n9wys · Post by **n9wys** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:56 am

Remember - these do NOT appear to have the Hi Stab Osc in them - something that would be necessary for stand-alone operation. You'll need to add the cost of obtaining one of those to get the machine working.

FWIW - I have also bid on three of them for a group here around Chicago, even without the HSO.

Good luck to all of us - I hope we can all get what we're looking for! 73...

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:09 am

N9WYS, just out of curiosity, what did your group bid per unit?

Thanks,
John
N1OTY

rrfd43 · Post by **rrfd43** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:42 pm

Anyone in the Rochester, NY area want some? I have truck and trailer to go get them. PM me if you can work out logistics....

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:15 am

To put a cap on this thread and bring it to a close, I just wanted to let everyone know that the bidding for these units is closed and a company called RWU International Computers, Inc. has purchased the entire lot. I had bid for 10 units at $100 per unit, so this company must have paid more. I just got the email notification from Gregory Olds.

John
N1OTY

SlimBob · Post by **SlimBob** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:03 am

That's a pity.

Radioman01 · Post by **Radioman01** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:52 pm

Maby we should send them a few nasty grams,
really what the HELL is a reman computer co. going to do with all thoes units?

Tony

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:04 pm

I suggest we email them and offer them $50 per unit for them. Let them take a nice loss. With so much re-banding going on, this equipment will not be moving.

John
N1OTY

motor59 · Post by **motor59** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:58 pm

Let me make some calls - see what I can find out.
Perhaps the compputer company wanted the microwave stuff and is stuck with the radios as a package deal...I dunno.

rrfd43 · Post by **rrfd43** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:06 pm

Let us know and maybe we can work something out on the Board. I would be interested in a few...

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:29 am

I don't believe they were stuck with a package deal. I assume they had the same bid documents that I did. Those bid documents plainly allowed setting a limit on quantity and whether you wanted the repeaters or the microwave equipment. I believe that this is just another reseller buying up a large lot in order to resell. The problem is that these units are not complete without the HSO, so I think whoever pays more for these units down the road will get screwed.

John
N1OTY

n9wys · Post by **n9wys** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:09 am

I'm also interested in three units. I bid $100 each, too - but I haven't heard anything from NJ yet about my bid.

PLEASE keep me in the loop. I agree - I have no idea what a computer reman business would want with 900 MHz radio repeaters, unless he's one of those eBay guys who'll try to squeeze us for the $$$.

Thanks all...

Post by **Grog** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:28 am

n9wys wrote:
PLEASE keep me in the loop. I agree - I have no idea what a computer reman business would want with 900 MHz radio repeaters, unless he's one of those eBay guys who'll try to squeeze us for the $$$.

There are a ton of people on this board who would do the same thing to you....

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:54 am

Well, he can try to squeeze me all he wants. My group already has two 902 repeaters up and running, with another going online within the next few weeks. We're doing very well with Maxtrac receivers, GTX exciters and 150 watt Motorola cell phone amplifiers all mated to NHRC controllers. There are other ways to get a 902 repeater going at minimal cost. We only wanted to grab some of these because they are more robust. He may get a few guys willing to spend big coin for one of these, but not me. And he certainly cannot market this to business and public safety users anymore. They have no use for it due to rebanding.

John
N1OTY

Post by **Grog** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:26 am

Call me nutty, but what does rebanding have to do with 900mhz?

Radioman01 · Post by **Radioman01** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:22 pm

Not to be pissy,
but if someone does have this George guy fone number maby a call can prove out what is
really going on.

it really don't make any sense why they would want 137 900 repeaters with no HSO units.
I'm sure NJ power co. don't give a rats ass about the bat-board because they "maximized their returns".

and if they did by them all to squeeze more money, they they can find a someone else because
maxtrac/GTX/Cell amps cost allot less then the shipping costs it takes fom FL. to MA

Tony

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:26 pm

Grog wrote:Call me nutty, but what does rebanding have to do with 900mhz?

These repeaters were used by business/public safety users at 896-902 and 935-941 MHZ. Rebanding of these users to 700 MHZ and the lower end of 800 MHZ is why we are seeing a glut of this equipment coming onto the market. As these businesses/agencies are actually rebanded down in frequency, they have to replace their current 900 equipment, just as this New Jersey power company had to do. This 900 MHZ equipment cannot be retuned to the lower frequencies. However, since the equipment was used to transmit/receive just below and just above the ham 902 band, they are ideal candidates for our use.

I recently saw an inventory sheet from a large electronics wholesaler who had 200 900 MHZ Maxtracs and 300 900 MHZ MCS2000's and they are going begging. Frankly, there is so much 900 equipment floating around now, that 10 channel Maxtracs's can be had for $20 to $30 per radio in excellent condition, if you shop carefully.

John
N1OTY

n9wys · Post by **n9wys** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:31 pm

n1oty wrote:Well, he can try to squeeze me all he wants. My group already has two 902 repeaters up and running, with another going online within the next few weeks. We're doing very well with Maxtrac receivers, GTX exciters and 150 watt Motorola cell phone amplifiers all mated to NHRC controllers. There are other ways to get a 902 repeater going at minimal cost. We only wanted to grab some of these because they are more robust. He may get a few guys willing to spend big coin for one of these, but not me. And he certainly cannot market this to business and public safety users anymore. They have no use for it due to rebanding.

John
N1OTY

John - I'm also running a repeater with nearly the exact same components as you (GTX "exciter", MaxTrac receiver and Motorola 150W PA -- only I use a Com Spec TP-3200 controller) but I wanted one for the same reason as you - it is made designed/built to be run as a repeater. Well, so are ours but you get my drift...

If could could afford big bucks, I'd just go out and buy a Quantar... but I'm not doing this for a club, nor do I have any money behind my efforts - I put it on the air as a project for myself, for the local hams to utilize if they wish. It's just a shame that the utility didn't have a ham running/coordinating the auction - we MIGHT have gotten a different end result...

Oh well, no use crying over spilled milk.

Post by **Grog** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:08 pm

nevermind.........

w2ymm · Post by **w2ymm** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:49 pm

Hey guys, I got a phone call from the person who bought the lot of these repeaters today.
He said he stumbled across my contact info from my website, I guess doing a search for the model number of the repeater..
anyway, he is selling the units off.
Here is his contact number, he asked me to forward this to anyone who may be interested.
I'm not affiliated with him, I'm just passing this along for those interested.
Bob P W2YMM

Motorola MSF 5000 radios 900Mhz

All units are model number: C85GFB5203AT

Pickup address will be;

Mr. Ron Nauta
Recon Solutions, Inc.
961 Route 10
Randolph, NJ 07869

Ron Umberger
RWU International Computers, Inc.
Telephone #:727-341-0694
Fax #: 727-341-0794
Cell: 727-644-5728
E-MAIL: rw@rwuinternational.com
Website:www.rwuinternational.com

Post by **alex** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:17 pm

n1oty wrote:These repeaters were used by business/public safety users at 896-902 and 935-941 MHZ. Rebanding of these users to 700 MHZ and the lower end of 800 MHZ is why we are seeing a glut of this equipment coming onto the market. As these businesses/agencies are actually rebanded down in frequency, they have to replace their current 900 equipment, just as this New Jersey power company had to do. This 900 MHZ equipment cannot be retuned to the lower frequencies. However, since the equipment was used to transmit/receive just below and just above the ham 902 band, they are ideal candidates for our use.

Just FYI, in the case of these they were upgraded with Quantars. The system that these came out of is still in service on 900mhz, and was not sent to any other band.

-Alex

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:15 pm

Maybe NJ is later in the rebanding schedule. Rebanding is in full swing here in the Boston area. Maybe they will get rebanded in a year or so and 137 Quantar's will come on the market.

John
N1OTY

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:17 pm

w2ymm wrote:Hey guys, I got a phone call from the person who bought the lot of these repeaters today.
He said he stumbled across my contact info from my website, I guess doing a search for the model number of the repeater..
anyway, he is selling the units off.
Here is his contact number, he asked me to forward this to anyone who may be interested.
I'm not affiliated with him, I'm just passing this along for those interested.
Bob P W2YMM
Motorola MSF 5000 radios 900Mhz

All units are model number: C85GFB5203AT

Pickup address will be;

Mr. Ron Nauta
Recon Solutions, Inc.
961 Route 10
Randolph, NJ 07869

Ron Umberger
RWU International Computers, Inc.
Telephone #:727-341-0694
Fax #: 727-341-0794
Cell: 727-644-5728
E-MAIL: rw@rwuinternational.com
Website:www.rwuinternational.com

So, what is his asking price?

John
N1OTY

Radioman01 · Post by **Radioman01** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:16 pm

OK...

anybody call yet and see what's going on?
before i call, i was just wondering, i could see him getting annoyed if 8 guys called his cell number..

Tony

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:09 pm

I just got off the phone with the gentleman who bought these units, plus I received a PM from another Batlabber last night. I have left my cell number with this gentleman and I have fleshed out some dollar figures with him that may or may not work for some batlabbers. The biggest problem right now is that he does not really know what he has bought here. I suspect he thought he was getting more than he really was. Then again, his main goal may have been to buy the microwave equipment and this was something extra. I'm not sure. However, he initially tried to offer me repeaters at $500 a pop. Needless to say, I chuckled at that and he asked what I was willing to pay. I told him that I had bid $100 per repeater and that I MIGHT go as high as $125, but that I wouldn't go beyond that with the HSO's. He's going to check for me whether any of the repeaters have HSO's. If so, it looks like he'll accept around $200 per repeater with an HSO. Other than that, it sounds like he intends to Ebay these. Either way, they are coming on the market at a reasonable price.

I suspect that he hopes to move at least a few of these at inflated prices and then wholesale the rest. I figure he'll move the first 10 units or so at inflated rates and those of us willing to exhibit some patience can get a decent deal.

John
N1OTY

Post by **CAPTLPOL** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:15 pm

What does an HSO do?

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:04 am

High Stability Oscillator. It is required for these units to function. Each one needs an HSO in order to function independently. When used in a trunking arrangement, a common external reference oscillator is used simultaneously by each repeater.

John
N1OTY

Post by **CAPTLPOL** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:43 pm

Are you still trying to talk him down?

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:03 pm

I'm waiting for him to supply me with information about the repeaters. He knows that we have a greater interest in MSF5000's with the HSO's. He knows we are willing to pay more for a repeater with an HSO. The problem here is that he has no idea what he bought. He is trying to get more information about them from the power company. I have information that none of these units have an HSO. We just have to wait until he discovers this. At that point, he'll sell the first few to people dumb enough to pay $500 a pop. Then the rest of us can get some cheap and scramble to come up with oscillators.

Frankly, he better act soon because I have some other potential repeater deals cooking for short money. If one or two of these other deals pan out, I won't need these. I'm in the market for as many as ten repeaters. A lot of folks on this board have sent me PM's and are letting me act as point man with this gentleman. Even if I make any deals elsewhere, I will still keep everyone in the loop on this deal and work on everyone's behalf.

I'm sorry, folks, but we just have to wait until this gentleman comes to terms with what he has purchased. I believe he thought he was buying something more valuable than it is. Instead, he has 137 repeaters that are nearly 20 years old and probably only have some value to us cheapskate hams. I cannot foresee any FD or PD buying such old equipment, as the liability would be too great.

John
N1OTY

W8RW · Post by **W8RW** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:18 pm

Is the HSO also used in the 800 MHz version?

Post by **Grog** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:05 pm

n1oty wrote:
I cannot foresee any FD or PD buying such old equipment, as the liability would be too great.

Just how many fire or police departments are using 900mhz in the US? There are only a handful on 900mhz users in the Carolinas (I'm one of them

)

N9LLO · Post by **N9LLO** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:14 am

I thing 900 is mostly business and industrial users. To try to clear up something I have seen a couple of times in this thread 900 is NOT subject to rebanding. We are already running 12.5 khz channels.

Chris
N9LLO

Post by **Grog** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:35 am

N9LLO wrote:I thing 900 is mostly business and industrial users. To try to clear up something I have seen a couple of times in this thread 900 is NOT subject to rebanding. We are already running 12.5 khz channels.

Chris
N9LLO

Well I would take it that "rebanding" is the entire nexhell 800mhz deal, and 150-512 was the "narrowbanding", and that this 900mhz deal was just getting rid of something. I have also figured out that some people just don't know as much as they think they do

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:15 am

I apologize if I caused any confusion. You folks are right that 900 is not part of the national rebanding, 800 is. However, a lot of 900 users in many parts of the country are slipping down in frequency as narrow banding frees up more channels. I'm seeing that in a big way in my area. UHF and 800 are the two big public safety bands around here. Many outfits that interact with police and fire are on VHF or 900. As a spot opens in the same band as a served agency, many of these outfits try to move to that band. It cuts costs by lowering the radio count in a vehicle. The net effect is that the 900 equipment is becoming available in droves and, for now, the prices for this used gear is plummeting. I've been paying less than $30 per high powered, 10 channel Maxtrac for months now.

It seems that narrow banding has started here in the Greater Boston area and rebanding seems to also be in full swing. A lot of agencies are taking a hard look at their allocations and doing their moves now. Other parts of the country that are scheduled to do this later may not have this type of activity for the moment. It is coming however.

Forgive my reference to the FD's and PD's. I am retired from a Boston area department (10 years on the LEO side and remainder with FD after moving there in the 80's), so I have a fairly good idea how chief's think. My point was that I cannot fathom ANY chief buying equipment of this vintage. I can almost hear the lawyer for a grieving widow of a police officer or firefighter now, grilling a chief over comm failure with old equipment. Even a half-baked lawyer would have no trouble expanding a chief's rectal orifice over that one. Plus, every chief I've known loves to spend the taxpayer's dime on the latest and greatest that the salesman can talk him into.

John
N1OTY

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:59 pm

FYI to the board:

Our group just made a deal with this gentleman for 10 repeaters at $100 a piece. Personally, I think he might take slightly less than that per unit on multiple quantity purchases. YMMV. I suggest that anyone interested in these call him tomorrow. The repeaters are scheduled to be shipped to Florida on Feb 8th. We are going to NJ early next week to get our units. Have fun and feel free to quote him this deal for the "guys in Massachusetts" if he tries to charge more than $100 a pop.

John
N1OTY

Radioman01 · Post by **Radioman01** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:52 pm

The Thing is,
10 or more at 100 bucks is what he said ok for us,
it may not be the same for anyone else that's only buying 2 or 3.

if you guys that can group together in a area to buy a few it may pay off but you will have to deal it out.
he told me that Friday FEB 8, it was costing 2000 bucks for shipping to somewhere, i believe that's all the stuff he was bidding on, because that's the deadline for
his pickup, also he thought all the units would work WITHOUT the HSO units.

I'm currently trying for a Monday pickup of our 10 units,
maby, just maby if Monday is ok, its possible that a few of us can meet at a specified location, all go at the same time
and grab more then 10, i don't think he will have any issues with that considering he rather sell a bunch at one time
this could be a benefit for all of us if planned out well and 50 trucks don't show up at one time
please e-mail me direct and I'll work out the details as they arrive

Tony
NN1D

Radioman01 · Post by **Radioman01** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:55 pm

Ok,
i just got off the phone with the gent again...
we will be going down there on Friday FEB 8...

here is your chance...
we are taking 10 plus at 100 bucks each, again this is because its 10 plus
the guys that only want 1 or 2 he was asking 150-175 each and 5-9 he was asking 125 each,
and above 10 100 even, im going to renag the price if we hit the 20 mark, if there are enough guys to show up
on that day, we can do a morning meeting before we get there to work out the details

again call him and deal if your not going down there on Feb 8 and mention the Ma. deal
that will assure he's not going to try and ask 200 each as it was stated before.
Also he will ship those units out but there will be a shipping cost from where-ever to where-ever their going and a
cost for crating them up as would be expected.

i would call him if you are interested.
you guys in NY and NJ really want to get in on this while we still have quantity pricing on FEB 8

E-mail me or what ever, i tried to do the best i could on pricing, for everyone considering no one stepped up
to the plate, so if you don't like what i tried to work out call him direct, but its close to what we placed bids
on and in our case right on the money
BTW i found a HSO that is meridian standard that the repeater is looking for, the specs are the same
1 volt output at 5mhz, oven xtal controlled and is adjustable. I have ordered it I'll keep the group informed on how it pans out. not to worry there are plenty in stock and it was only 50 bucks plus shipping.

Tony
NN1D

n1oty · Post by **n1oty** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:02 am

Just a reminder to anyone planning on acquiring some of these. Be sure to coordinate either with me or Tony (NN1D). Friday, Feb 8th is the scheduled meeting and transaction date. I have one Batlabber that I have exchanged numbers with who is in on the deal. Tony has a few others. We estimate that our current group, including those who contacted Tony or I, have a combined purchasing power for about 24 units or so. We expect that number to swell over the next few days. Come one, come all. There's enough for everyone.

John
N1OTY

Radioman01 · Post by **Radioman01** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:41 pm

Just a reminder that anyone
going down to the pickup site, this is the new address givin to me by the computer guy at RWU

PSEG Services Corporation
Corporate Resources Recovery
243 West Jefferson Street
Gibbstown, NJ 08027

for the Friday pickup only.
Its about another our south then what was posted at 961 route 10 randolph nj

also, he will not be excepting cash, only a money order reflecting the number of units you wanted
2 units you will need a 200 dollar money order and 4 units you will need a 400 money order

Tony
NN1D