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What can I do with this old Astro R?

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:36 pm
by jets1961
Here are the details of this radio:

Host: AP_ R03.10.06
DSP: M 04.03.10
Model: H04UCF9PW7AN

Printed on the back is the FLASHport number: 0000080020008.

I know the radio is Analog only from the FP number.

From searching BL I can see I should be able to use this radio as a type II 800MHz analog radio. This is kind of why I bought it. But reading posts it seem it’s possible to upgrade the radio to Astro digital. Is it worth the effort or should I just us it as an analog only radio?
:wink:

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:42 am
by RESCUE161
You could look for a 403-470 model with an IMBE vocon (they are fairly cheap these days) and swap the vocons out. You'd have to do a little hacking, but then you'd have a digital 800 unit and could sell the now useless 403-470 as an analog only Astro Saber.

Some folks on this board could probably even update your old vocon so you wouldn't even have to do that.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:28 am
by Josh
It seems to me that your radio may be messed up..

The HOST/DSP seems to be old VSELP.

The flash-code shows up as "analog-only" operation, but on old VSELP radios, it would show up as "conventional operation" which indicated that VSELP was an option.

I have never come across a VSELP-era radio that didn't have VSELP in it, wheras IMBE radios are frequently 'analog only'.

-Josh

DSP/VCON upgrade

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:58 pm
by jets1961
Josh,

I checked the flash code and you are right it's anlog only type II trunking. What are you using to decode the DSP numbers, could you point me to a link or thread on this site? Right now I think I will run it as anlog only and in the future upgrade it to digital.

161 I will look in the for sale section to see what I can find, when you say change the VCON is that the complete logic board. If so I could just buy one with the right flash right? The system I want it for is a type II digatal/analog APCO 16a, so will the advanced flash code (APCO 25) work backward compatable to 16a?

Thanks, Joe

Josh wrote:It seems to me that your radio may be messed up..

The HOST/DSP seems to be old VSELP.

The flash-code shows up as "analog-only" operation, but on old VSELP radios, it would show up as "conventional operation" which indicated that VSELP was an option.

I have never come across a VSELP-era radio that didn't have VSELP in it, wheras IMBE radios are frequently 'analog only'.

-Josh

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:34 pm
by Pj
This should help you out about flashcodes, host's etc. Its a nice primer if you haven't read it already.

http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=23682

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:10 pm
by motorola_otaku
Josh wrote:I have never come across a VSELP-era radio that didn't have VSELP in it, wheras IMBE radios are frequently 'analog only'.
I had one. VHF Astro Saber 1, HOST R03.xx/DSP I05.xx, flash 000008-002000-8. Build date of 1997, came from a certain infamous Ebay seller out of Arizona programmed for Fed stuff and loaded with non-XL DES crypto.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:24 pm
by Josh
Yes, but on the portables isn't DSP 5 IMBE anyhow?

-Josh

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:30 pm
by motorola_otaku
Josh wrote:Yes, but on the portables isn't DSP 5 IMBE anyhow?
No, unfortunately. IMBE starts at DSP 6 for everyone.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:31 pm
by Grog
motorola_otaku wrote:
Josh wrote:I have never come across a VSELP-era radio that didn't have VSELP in it, wheras IMBE radios are frequently 'analog only'.
I had one. VHF Astro Saber 1, HOST R03.xx/DSP I05.xx, flash 000008-002000-8. Build date of 1997, came from a certain infamous Ebay seller out of Arizona programmed for Fed stuff and loaded with non-XL DES crypto.

Care to share who?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:37 pm
by motorola_otaku
Grog wrote:
motorola_otaku wrote:
Josh wrote:I have never come across a VSELP-era radio that didn't have VSELP in it, wheras IMBE radios are frequently 'analog only'.
I had one. VHF Astro Saber 1, HOST R03.xx/DSP I05.xx, flash 000008-002000-8. Build date of 1997, came from a certain infamous Ebay seller out of Arizona programmed for Fed stuff and loaded with non-XL DES crypto.

Care to share who?
Oh come now, surely you've heard of Jason Dunbar of Fabtech Industries, aka "audiowrx", "weraccessories", and a couple of others. He's been blowing out surplus Fed Astro gear for the last 2 1/2 years. You can catch some good deals from him, you just have to know what you're buying.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:25 pm
by Grog
Never heard the name before, but I'll be sure to remember it now :D

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:31 pm
by escomm
yup, he's got some good stuff and he's got some genuine crap

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:49 am
by Rayjk110
Last I saw he had HT1000's with holes drilled in them. :o

Usually he's got XTS3k m3's in UHF. I think they were X-US olympic radios or something of that sort.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:19 pm
by MattSR
Plus theres the fact that he's a complete cockknocker too..

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:05 pm
by d119
MattSR wrote:Plus theres the fact that he's a complete cockknocker too..
And what exactly is a cockknocker?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:44 pm
by mr.syntrx
Someone similar in form and function to a dickhead.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:56 pm
by 4n6inv
I would actually imagine a "cockknocker" to be much more vile than a dickhead. Inecentlayly I recently underwenrt a vasectomy and I can say with undue certainty; that this man was a "cockknocker".

I appologize in advance for the sperm of the moment comment!

Jim

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:23 pm
by d119
4n6inv wrote:I would actually imagine a "cockknocker" to be much more vile than a dickhead. Inecentlayly I recently underwenrt a vasectomy and I can say with undue certainty; that this man was a "cockknocker".

I appologize in advance for the sperm of the moment comment!

Jim
Jim,

I'll attribute your spelling errors to still being in shock from the vasectomy. Thanks for clearing up the mystery of the "CockKnocker". Now we know that this "audiowrx" guy is moonlighting as a surgeon.

.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:26 pm
by batdude
and we can chock this thread into the gutter.


move along



doug