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MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:19 am
by w5gm
Ok I need a push in the right direction... I can read this radio all day long just fine, but when I try to turn right around WITHOUT TOUCHING A THING and F8 to program the radio it fails with a "Featureset of Codeplug does not match featureset of radio" error. When I try yo read using the windows MTS2000 software, the download from the radio begins and then the radio just re-boots.

What is the deal with this? Has anybody seen this before?

Just fyi, the PC in question is a toshiba Tecra 730 (P133) laptop with a real serial port.. It runs win98se when I need it..
The radio is a H01WCH4PW1AN

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:48 am
by HLA
are you shure it is an mts2000 and not a 9000 series with mts stickers on it? but check power in your rib and clean the contacts with a pencil eraser.

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:29 pm
by wavetar
I'm betting it's an MTX series which was converted into an MTS2000. What's the firmware version of the radio?

Todd

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:22 pm
by MTS2000des
also note the model number ends in AN, if it is a real MTS2000, likely it isn't CPS compatible which would explain the behavior of the MTS CPS rebooting the radio. IIRC a radio has to have a controller with a firmware ver higher than 5.xx to work with CPS.
I had an early AN rev MTS2000 800 with a controller ver of 1.10. It was not a hacked MTX, a factory radio with the old style controller flex and pre-Flashport controller. It went to the depot and came back with a new RF board and controller, and 6.82 f/w...

as far as the DOS result, are you trying to CLONE another C/P? that is the error message you usually get when you are trying to clone codeplugs with different flashcode/firmware/feature sets.

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:19 am
by w5gm
MTS2000des wrote:also note the model number ends in AN, if it is a real MTS2000, likely it isn't CPS compatible which would explain the behavior of the MTS CPS rebooting the radio. IIRC a radio has to have a controller with a firmware ver higher than 5.xx to work with CPS.
I had an early AN rev MTS2000 800 with a controller ver of 1.10. It was not a hacked MTX, a factory radio with the old style controller flex and pre-Flashport controller. It went to the depot and came back with a new RF board and controller, and 6.82 f/w...

as far as the DOS result, are you trying to CLONE another C/P? that is the error message you usually get when you are trying to clone codeplugs with different flashcode/firmware/feature sets.
--No actually.. I just would read the radio and turn right around and try to F8 program, and it would display that error..

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:20 am
by w5gm
wavetar wrote:I'm betting it's an MTX series which was converted into an MTS2000. What's the firmware version of the radio?

Todd
--Let me get back with you on that.

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:44 pm
by w5gm
wavetar wrote:I'm betting it's an MTX series which was converted into an MTS2000. What's the firmware version of the radio?

Todd
1.02

I even just tried the LAB RSS and it said the same thing..

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:27 am
by wavetar
I've never seen a firmware version that low...sometimes 1.2x or 1.3x. For sure the CPS will never work with it, even if it is a genuine MTS2000. Since you have LAB, you could try reading it, making the changes you desire, and saving it as a packed S-record. You should then be able to force in the S-record using the 'read/write with no pack/unpack' method. Forcing in a codeplug from another radio in this manner might even fix it so that you can read/write with RSS...forget about CPS though.

Todd

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:02 am
by RKG
123ABC?

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:56 am
by w5gm
wavetar wrote:I'm betting it's an MTX series which was converted into an MTS2000. What's the firmware version of the radio?

Todd
Can't be.. The sticker on the back says MTS2000

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:58 am
by w5gm
wavetar wrote:I've never seen a firmware version that low...sometimes 1.2x or 1.3x. For sure the CPS will never work with it, even if it is a genuine MTS2000. Since you have LAB, you could try reading it, making the changes you desire, and saving it as a packed S-record. You should then be able to force in the S-record using the 'read/write with no pack/unpack' method. Forcing in a codeplug from another radio in this manner might even fix it so that you can read/write with RSS...forget about CPS though.

Todd
Sounds interesting.. If only I had another empty codeplug..

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:21 am
by Mfire39
w5gm wrote:
wavetar wrote:I'm betting it's an MTX series which was converted into an MTS2000. What's the firmware version of the radio?

Todd
Can't be.. The sticker on the back says MTS2000

Cant be huh?? Obviously you don't know how easy it is for someone to blast an MTS plug into an MTX controller... Maybe the orig controller took a crap, and a cheap fix was to replace it with a controller from an MTX... That firmware version is still very low, and I don't think I've seen a version that low on an MT/MTS/MTX..

-Marc

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:49 am
by w5gm
Mfire39 wrote:
w5gm wrote:
wavetar wrote:I'm betting it's an MTX series which was converted into an MTS2000. What's the firmware version of the radio?

Todd
Can't be.. The sticker on the back says MTS2000

Cant be huh?? Obviously you don't know how easy it is for someone to blast an MTS plug into an MTX controller... Maybe the orig controller took a crap, and a cheap fix was to replace it with a controller from an MTX... That firmware version is still very low, and I don't think I've seen a version that low on an MT/MTS/MTX..

-Marc
Ahah!

Now the light comes on.. Somebody could have swapped an inter board.. soooo How bad could I pooch this thing if I tried to dump an MTX9000B7 codeplug into it???

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:02 pm
by MTS2000des
Mfire39 wrote:
w5gm wrote:
wavetar wrote:I'm betting it's an MTX series which was converted into an MTS2000. What's the firmware version of the radio?

Todd


Can't be.. The sticker on the back says MTS2000

Cant be huh?? Obviously you don't know how easy it is for someone to blast an MTS plug into an MTX controller... Maybe the orig controller took a crap, and a cheap fix was to replace it with a controller from an MTX... That firmware version is still very low, and I don't think I've seen a version that low on an MT/MTS/MTX..

-Marc
they exist. I had one. It was 100 percent factory, made in 1992- controller had the old style interconnecting flex to the RF board. It was original. Had firmware ver 1.10. Would not read/write with CPS. Sent it off for an issue with the antenna connector being loose under flat rate, it came back with a new RF board AND controller. I doubt Motorola would have accepted it if someone put a hacked controller in it.

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:29 pm
by w5gm
wavetar wrote:I've never seen a firmware version that low...sometimes 1.2x or 1.3x. For sure the CPS will never work with it, even if it is a genuine MTS2000. Since you have LAB, you could try reading it, making the changes you desire, and saving it as a packed S-record. You should then be able to force in the S-record using the 'read/write with no pack/unpack' method. Forcing in a codeplug from another radio in this manner might even fix it so that you can read/write with RSS...forget about CPS though.

Todd
Could you walk me though this process so I dont FUBAR IT :)

Re: MTS2000 and mtsxv6.07

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:37 pm
by w5gm
Just to close this thread-- I found the solution.. RSS 1.001. This portable is soo KRUSTY and ANCIENT that it requires a pre-historic RSS to program it. I am good to go..