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Hi all a repost, please...

XTS3000 VHF
H09KDH9PW7BN
591008-4F1E00-9
CPS Rss

When utilizing a speaker/mic (non public safety) Radio emmits a low tone beep upon Transmitt/When I push PTT on SpeakerMic, only. I cant hear the Modat/MDC Upon TX when I push the PTT Button on the Remote speaker mic. Radio DOES transmitt Fine.

However, when there is not a speaker mic attached the radio transmitts (when pushing radio Side Button PTT) 'ok' with NO low pitch tone, I can hear the MOdat/MDC SideTone

What am I missing? Id like to disable the low pitch tone/have no tone when using the Speaker Mic.

Is this a secure equip issue, I think I am missing something to simply disable, and I cant find it !

thanks for your time !
John

Ok, lets start with the basics...

1-With the speaker mic attached, press the PTT on the RADIO, what happens?

2-How is the audio from the speaker mic when rx'ing?

I am not aware of (never seen) any option that allows disabling the audio from the speaker mic for specific options in RSS (side tones radio only etc). Could it be just a bad speaker? You say its a beep or tone? Is this a "radio" tone, or other noise? I have heard speaker mics with bad/broken shielding pick up RF noise from the antenna and have it go thru the speaker and create all sorts of noises, but it was no where close to a radio sounding tone or beep.

Mine did that too...
Turn the keypad tones off. That makes the tone go away, but the radio is still doing something odd......

Put the radio in test mode, via side button 3 being pressed 5 times with in 10 seconds of turning on the radio. Once the radio runs thru all info on the display, the display should show "RF TEST"... Now push the side button 1 (top button on left side), now it should display "CH TEST" then push the Emergency button (orange). Now the radio is in a mode that will show you numerically how each button or swith is working. I.e. when the PTT is pressed on the radio, the display changes to "1/0 or 1/1" depending if the button is pressed. 0=OFF 1=ON, the 1st number is the number assisgned to each button or switch position. I.e. PTT=1 (o=off or 1=on)
volume knob=2 (0 to 255)
Emergency=3 (0=off 1=on)
Channel selector=4 (0=mode1, 1=mode2, 2=mode3, etc,)
ABC switch=67 (0=a position, 1=b position, 2=c position)
this goes on and on...

Now connect the speaker mike....
The display will show 180/1 or 182/1 when the remote mic is keyed.

Not sure how to fix this, but at least you will be able to see that the radio is not seeing the remote mic properly. May have something to do with the flashcode.

Pj wrote:Ok, lets start with the basics...

1-With the speaker mic attached, press the PTT on the RADIO, what happens?

2-How is the audio from the speaker mic when rx'ing?

I am not aware of (never seen) any option that allows disabling the audio from the speaker mic for specific options in RSS (side tones radio only etc). Could it be just a bad speaker? You say its a beep or tone? Is this a "radio" tone, or other noise? I have heard speaker mics with bad/broken shielding pick up RF noise from the antenna and have it go thru the speaker and create all sorts of noises, but it was no where close to a radio sounding tone or beep.

Hmm, Ok with the Speaker Mic Attached:
-Pushing on RADIO PTT Directly, TX Light ON, Modat/MDC Tone Heard thru Speaker Mic Speaker.
-Audio from Speaker Mic, Clear/Crisp no static/bad wire/crackle.
-Tried different speaker mics.
-The BEEP heard upon pressing the SPEAKER MIC PTT is similar to BEEP heard when pressing number on dtmf pad, i guess its more of a "boop" (low tone, quick)

I tried the CH TEST run thru all of the tests, and with the Speaker Mic attached, it seems to recognize the Spkr/Mic properly.

Tones OFF Did turn off the "Boop" Sound when using Spkr/Mic.

Perhaps this is a flashcode issue? I have 2 radios that do the same with same flashcode?
Could this be a Secure Issue? I remember in the Sabers there was something about TX in Clear ? That rendered same ptt tone, but why is it only 'acting up' with a Speaker Mic Attached??? Hmmm?

Thanks for the help
John

check your secure settings, for an easy test, Disable the secure in yrou radio, if there's an option to select non sedcure hdw equipped, or rather un check secure hardware equipped, do it and then write the radio, and yuo should be fine...

Let us know how you make out.

Grrr..
Well I have 'unchecked' Sec. Hardware Equip and Software Encrpt.

I dont believe I have any other Secure Mode activated, the fields are not selectable.

I am still getting the Low Tone 'Boop" w/ the Spkr. Mic.

Perhaps this is a code plug issue, since both radios I have do it..

jjmcrowell- were u able to resolve your issue? PM if ud like

thank you for your time and information.. I will continue on with the mission... !

John

What is so wrong with the PTT tone? I've always liked the secure "clear" alert tone. Its a nice way to know you've pushed the PTT and you are TXing the same way the ericsson radios give you a beep on connect with the trunked system. If you can't make it go away, just lower the radio wide alert tone volume until its an a level you like.

I think the tone he is talking about is a low tone, not the connect tone or chirp.

It's the same tone you get when, the keypad is locked and you try and press a key....

I have the same flash code and it does the same thing.

Just to clarify, when in the test mode. Mine displays the 180/1 or 182/1..... It should display 1/1 or 1/0 just like pushing the PTT on the radio itself. At least my MT2000 does it this way. I think this is something to do with the flash code we have.

Ah so its the BONK or "idiot" tone. Now i see why he doesn't like it. Sounds like bad firmware to me.

I have two radios I tried this on.

First radio: VHF R07.06.01 DSP R07.03.19 FLSHCD 100001-000000-7
Second unit: UHF R07.03.00 DSP R07.13.12 FLSHCD 591008-4F1E00-9

First I tried the button test using the factory programming cable connected to a portable test set [which has a built in speaker & PTT] and the PTT shows 1/0 1/1 on both radios. MDC modes have correct side tone from the test set speaker.

Tried again with a NMN6193B speaker mic with the same results - everything OK - no low tone on modes with or without MDC.

I don't know what that proves but I don't think your problem relates to the flashcode - maybe the firmware - see how your versions compare to these.

Just a thought...

You say your programming with the CPS - double check the error window before you write your radio. make sure there are no errors (somehow with the Waris CPS, it let a out of band error slip by...).

I would also read your radio with the same version of DOS RSS and see if there are any errors when moving through the different sections of the codeplug. Amasingly enough - the dos version is more picky than the CPS version, and also can be a bit more picky than the CPS. Remember - motorola has been making RSS for the things longer than CPS.

Just my $0.02. It will take 5 - 10 minutes, and be worth the time I think.

-Alex

Well..
no luck
thank you to all those who provided me w. the info.
I tried the DOS RSS, and noticed no error options.

HOWEVER, i did notice in the CPS RSS in the bottom right hand corner, when I read radio (near clock) one of the fields displays INVALID. there are no errors found in the Invalid Field Lists etc.
So i am assuming its a firmware issue.
Radio is workin ok, and I guess I can survive w/ the 'boink' for now.

thanks again
John

I agree.... HRMMMMMM