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by Twisted_Pear
Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:53 pm
Forum: Consoles
Topic: MCC7500 v7.15 console. . . . .
Replies: 6
Views: 8922

Re: MCC7500 v7.15 console. . . . .

Other than this exterior review, the next step is get out the TIMS and a banjo and hop into the circuits to confirm there are proper keying tones coming from the CCGW's. I echo this advice. After doing a lot of work with TRC and custom tables (trying to determine best way for Secure On/Off support)...
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:14 pm
Forum: ASTRO Series (Astro Saber, Spectra, XTS3000/3500) Subscribers
Topic: P16 to P25???
Replies: 6
Views: 10604

Re: P16 to P25???

ok, i have to ask what is P16 is that VSELP? and is that something that can be enabled on a old Astro saber analog only? P16 as in APCO Project 16. Motorola's SmartNet/Zone is their implementation of the standard. VSELP was originally marketed as "ASTRO" without the 25. ASTRO25 became IMB...
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:15 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: SmartNet II subaudible low-speed data protocol
Replies: 14
Views: 2872

Re: SmartNet II subaudible low-speed data protocol

It should be the sync bits then nine bits for the talkgroup. Yes, a talkgroup is ten bits but Moto decided to drop one for efficiency or whatever so the LSB is assumed to be '1'. This is why analog talkgroups are not normally assigned sequentially. Also, which TG's are announced is adjustable so don...
by Twisted_Pear
Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:03 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan
Replies: 93
Views: 38387

Re: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan

Elroy Jetson wrote:Out of curiosity, what is the standard tx/rx offset on UHF lowband trunking systems, anyway?
Typically +9MHz. Goes for conventional too.
by Twisted_Pear
Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:00 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Q about selective radio inhibit - Radio is dead
Replies: 11
Views: 3844

Re: Q about selective radio inhibit - Radio is dead

Pj wrote:True, but I believe the RSS/CPS does not allow you to see the codeplug information. IIRC, it says "Radio Inhibited" and the screen goes back to the normal "no codeplug" looking screen.
I wonder if it's possible to read the memory before it's dumped ala the password trick.
by Twisted_Pear
Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:58 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: motorola xts5000 programming issue
Replies: 16
Views: 2966

Re: motorola xts5000 programming issue

Not saying this is your issue, but it may be worth trying a different port to see if it makes a difference. I don't want to get mancow's hopes up any more than I already have. But I doubt this will help him. Ground, USB- and USB+ are all straight through. USB 5v goes to the DS2433 chip which has sp...
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:29 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Q about selective radio inhibit - Radio is dead
Replies: 11
Views: 3844

Re: Q about selective radio inhibit - Radio is dead

If it was inhibited via a trunked system it makes finding where the radio came from a lot easier since one can (hopefully) look up the system ID on RadioReference or other identifiable info. I'm not sure how helpful Motorola is in these situations.
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:27 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: motorola xts5000 programming issue
Replies: 16
Views: 2966

Re: motorola xts5000 programming issue

The cable is just straight from the adaptor that connects to the radio. Nothing on the cable line itself. There's a DS2433 chip inside the accessory connector. When you check continuity with the cable connected to nothing it appears to be straight through. Once you plug it in the CTS pin (10) becom...
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:19 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Build your own ASTRO25 equipment programming cables
Replies: 7
Views: 6204

Re: Build your own ASTRO25 equipment programming cables

I get an F for doing my homework on the XTS cable. It's got a DS2433 chip used for single line communication on it, which you wouldn't see when ohming out the pins. I'm no EE so I'm not sure if you could purchase the chip and still build the cable. Doesn't look like it. I can at least confirm the XT...
by Twisted_Pear
Fri May 22, 2009 5:48 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola NTN8560E XTVA: There is something missed or no?
Replies: 30
Views: 7851

Re: Motorola NTN8560E XTVA: There is something missed or no?

MotoFAN wrote:
escomm wrote:5586156A01, which is the entire lock assembly plus the key
What exactly included in this assembly? NTN8940B Trunion Kit is here?
The physical part of the lock the keys goes in to. Nothing else.
by Twisted_Pear
Fri May 22, 2009 5:38 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: SN/SZ deaffialtion time?
Replies: 5
Views: 1016

Re: SN/SZ deaffialtion time?

In a sense it is sent out. You'll see the system "poll" the radio and when no affiliation occurs it's assumed the subscriber radio has left the system.
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:27 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Build your own ASTRO25 equipment programming cables
Replies: 7
Views: 6204

Re: Build your own ASTRO25 equipment programming cables

I have a Moto XTS-ASTRO25 cable and pin 4 doesn't exist. No other pins send a voltage when plugged in to a computer.

And yes, the pins are easily desoldered and moved.
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:01 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Trunking ISW
Replies: 3
Views: 926

Re: Trunking ISW

You shouldn't ever have to mess with the ISW timing. It's not something you experiment with to see what happens. I would say your problem is somewhere else but there's not enough data to go off. And no, there's no system data in a system key. The key is just an encrypted file specifying its use with...
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:47 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Can SmartZone IMBE be monitored via P25 conventional?
Replies: 41
Views: 7679

Re: Can SmartZone IMBE be monitored via P25 conventional?

wavetar wrote: Well, unless a completely helpful & coherent Motorola engineer is reading this, your chances of success here aren't very good.
Sometimes you never know what you'll find on here.

Wowbagger, I'll PM you.
by Twisted_Pear
Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:03 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Can SmartZone IMBE be monitored via P25 conventional?
Replies: 41
Views: 7679

Re: Can SmartZone IMBE be monitored via P25 conventional?

You wouldn't happen to know what message on the control channel the radio gets the current connect tone from? It's contained in the system background messages. With a networked site there are two, one local and the other wide. Regardless of the system type that's where it's always located. With Sma...
by Twisted_Pear
Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:31 pm
Forum: Motorola Digital Radio Compatability
Topic: Motorola and Ma/Com Encryption.
Replies: 12
Views: 12042

Re: Motorola and Ma/Com Encryption.

A CCI XTS5000 has a CCI serialized sticker on the bottom where "ASTRO" normally is and the VOCON board has a PN for the Type I version (IIRC the MOL terminology). The CCI module has the same enc board size but it vastly different in components (it has a coin battery strapped to it, which i...
by Twisted_Pear
Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:32 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Build your own ASTRO25 equipment programming cables
Replies: 7
Views: 6204

Build your own ASTRO25 equipment programming cables

With the newer equipment there seems to be a serious lack of information on building your own programming cables. Even though the newer cables seem more complex they are just as simple as the older cables - if not simpler considering there's no RIB - as I've come to find out. I've compiled all the i...
by Twisted_Pear
Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:39 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Quantar won't recognize P25
Replies: 7
Views: 1751

Thread hijack!

Nexrad16 wrote:Do Quantars do narrowband?
12.5 spacing 2.5kHz deviation. I think that's as narrow as they go.
by Twisted_Pear
Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:16 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola inline power monitor?
Replies: 5
Views: 857

Re: Motorola inline power monitor?

Good to know. Thanks.

Sounds like it's not useful with newer technology. Is the S1350 still sold?
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:02 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Motorola inline power monitor?
Replies: 5
Views: 857

Motorola inline power monitor?

My understanding that this device below is for monitoring power inline with normal operation of the transmitter. It has no part number only band and power rating. There are three contacts on one side. Does anyone know how to use it? http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff81/Tricari/Motorola_inline_dev...
by Twisted_Pear
Thu May 29, 2008 1:57 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Quantar second receiver questions
Replies: 7
Views: 2444

Re: Quantar second receiver questions

The second receiver slot is only for expanding the receivable range of the unit. Basically you are combining the ranges of the two modules to make a larger range (ie, 136-174 versus 150-174). You cannot do anything custom with it like you want to. It doesn't work that way.
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:37 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: V.24 Port Pinouts
Replies: 2
Views: 2817

Re: V.24 Port Pinouts

Awesome info! Thanks. I know there's got to be an easier way than what Motorola specs out.
by Twisted_Pear
Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:37 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: V.24 Port Pinouts
Replies: 2
Views: 2817

V.24 Port Pinouts

I haven't got my hands on a DIU manual yet but does Motorola list which pins of the RJ-45/8p8c port are what when using V.24? RS-232D defines them as follows and I hope Motorola follows this format. 1 DSR (or RI) 2 DCD 3 DTR 4 Sig GND 5 RxD 6 TxD 7 CTS 8 RTS I'm looking at doing some linking with si...
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:28 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: SystemWatch II still supported?
Replies: 3
Views: 795

Re: SystemWatch II still supported?

Xmo, do you know the version number and if there's an applicable manual? I ran across this when browsing MOL: The GenWatch3 product is a 3rd party, advanced-replacement for existing SystemWatch, Site Lens, and SIP/ SIMS II products for 3600 customers and for customers that have been re-banded. Syste...
by Twisted_Pear
Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:37 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: SystemWatch II still supported?
Replies: 3
Views: 795

SystemWatch II still supported?

Is Motorola still supporting SystemWatch? And if so, has it been updated for rebanding? The manual no longer shows up on MOL and I couldn't seem to locate a newer version.

If it's got the axe, what's meant to take its place?
by Twisted_Pear
Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:10 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Channel numbering in Type II UHF trunking
Replies: 3
Views: 650

Re: Channel numbering in Type II UHF trunking

Now the question- In OBT, the frequency ranges can be split into several steps. Does the system identify the voice channels by counting continuously up from the bottom of the lowest range, and including the appropriate gaps, or does it handle each range individually? It counts continuously up. If t...
by Twisted_Pear
Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:39 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: XYS-5000 XTVA PINOUTS
Replies: 3
Views: 790

Re: XYS-5000 XTVA PINOUTS

j1d7free wrote:HOW CAN I GET THE PINOUTS FOR THE NTN8561F XTS/MTP VEHICULAR ADAPTER JACKS J1-J5?
So the info at http://www.batlabs.com/xtva.html detailing all connectors on the rear of the XTVA is no help?
by Twisted_Pear
Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:27 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTL5000 encryption problems
Replies: 4
Views: 885

Re: XTL5000 encryption problems

The new carrier didn't change anything so the module is next. I also noticed that the radio operates in digital CSQ or analog CSQ regardless of how the mode is programmed. It TX's the PL or NAC fine though. When I check the module I'll remove all the encryption equipment and and see if it still reac...
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTL5000 encryption problems
Replies: 4
Views: 885

Re: XTL5000 encryption problems

are you testing it in the vehicle or on the bench with a good power supply? It's in a vehicle connected directly to a battery. I thought it may have been a current issue at first as I tested it on the bench and it did the same thing. I've got a spare carrier I'm going to try. As far as I know the U...
by Twisted_Pear
Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:04 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTL5000 encryption problems
Replies: 4
Views: 885

XTL5000 encryption problems

I've got an XTL5000 mid-power UHF that when transmitting in encrypted mode will power-cycle. Some frequencies give you about a second or so of transmit and some immediately cause it. The radio recently had its FW upgraded to the newest V9 and that did not change anything. The UCM has the newest FW a...
by Twisted_Pear
Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:31 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Astro Saber/XTS3000 CPS R05.02.01 released
Replies: 13
Views: 2616

Re: Astro Saber/XTS3000 CPS R05.02.01 released

idk, webster's dictionary says the plural of acronyms never takes an apostrophe There are many sources citing both ways ergo my attachment of though arguably by some . The New York Times favors apostrophes. Webster's doesn't. Such is the English language. Regardless of which way you waver breaking ...
by Twisted_Pear
Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:26 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Astro Saber/XTS3000 CPS R05.02.01 released
Replies: 13
Views: 2616

Re: Astro Saber/XTS3000 CPS R05.02.01 released

motorola_otaku wrote:Woohoo, abuse of apostrophes!
That's grammatically correct actually though arguably by some.
by Twisted_Pear
Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:33 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Wishlist for channel monitoring
Replies: 22
Views: 1421

Re: Wishlist for channel monitoring

That's not really helpful - "everything" doesn't give me anything I can design for, it's the sort of answer I'd expect from a marketing/sales guy. I really want specifics - preferably in the form of "I'd like $FOO, so that I can do $BAR". The more specific the use case you give ...
by Twisted_Pear
Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:56 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Wishlist for channel monitoring
Replies: 22
Views: 1421

Re: Wishlist for channel monitoring

Everything, and then an option to turn whichever event on or off.
by Twisted_Pear
Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:15 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Xts5000 800 mhz to vhf
Replies: 13
Views: 1342

Re: Xts5000 800 mhz to vhf

escomm wrote:Aren't the displays for the 5k band-specific as well? Are the 800MHz and VHF modules interchangeable?
All that I've read says they are band specific. Who knows why.
by Twisted_Pear
Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:15 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: DVRS and it's use for talk-permit on a Quantar
Replies: 14
Views: 1394

Re: DVRS and it's use for talk-permit on a Quantar

Hightower wrote:
xmo wrote:Logged by what? Quantars don't decode or log anything.
I give up Quantar infrastructure expert.

Carry on........
Wait, hold on, how is it possible to log IDs? I'd be interested in doing this for fun and/or possible future need. I would imagine it needs some RNC backend equipment.
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:03 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Verifying DIU3000 encryption support
Replies: 3
Views: 778

Re: Verifying DIU3000 encryption support

Excellent info, thanks! Is the connector to keyload the board something commonly used by Moto or a one-off for the DIU?
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:43 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Verifying DIU3000 encryption support
Replies: 3
Views: 778

Verifying DIU3000 encryption support

What's the process to check whether a DIU 3000 will support encryption either when it can't be powered or when it can be (by just AC to the rear).
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:40 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: DVRS and it's use for talk-permit on a Quantar
Replies: 14
Views: 1394

Re: DVRS and it's use for talk-permit on a Quantar

Grog wrote:Ok, so if that is on the ham bands and your radio is transmitting by itself.


Ah, yeah, ok.............
Yeah, it's best with amateur radio we don't attempt to advance with technology.
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:36 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: power amp for (astro) sabers
Replies: 5
Views: 1097

Re: power amp for (astro) sabers

Tony wrote:I just checked his ebay site and it stated there was nothing for sale
I just noticed 170162918042 as of now from Panda. $18.99/8.55 BIN.
by Twisted_Pear
Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:26 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: 800mhz Astro Spectra Type 1 operation?
Replies: 15
Views: 1928

Re: 800mhz Astro Spectra Type 1 operation?

Does anyone know how to modify the ISW so a Type I controller will accept an Astro Spectra, or should I ask if it is even possible? This would be very difficult as you have to reverse engineer the code in the radio to do. Well beyond even our flashcode hackers. Is it at all possible for you to cont...
by Twisted_Pear
Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:31 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: 800mhz Astro Spectra Type 1 operation?
Replies: 15
Views: 1928

Re: 800mhz Astro Spectra Type 1 operation?

Not all controllers will accept the IIi "commands" the radio sends. That's why there's a TX issue. You can piggy-back on the voice channel though.

And the MCS2000 will do vanilla Type I trunking. I have an 800 that does it.
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:33 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: DES-XL repeater info/question
Replies: 2
Views: 676

Re: DES-XL repeater info/question

Or an MSF5000 with the secure board WITH the module. You can go the Micor route also but figure that being a project. If you do try the Quantar/tro make sure the software is V16 or less.
by Twisted_Pear
Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:34 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Linking ASTRO-only Quantars
Replies: 6
Views: 1520

Re: Linking ASTRO-only Quantars

I figured it would require an ASTRO-Tac. Thanks guys.

Maybe the Tait radios are more suited to linking multiple APCO-25 sites? If I remember correctly you can link them without any complicated hardware and use typical backhaul equipment.
by Twisted_Pear
Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:38 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Linking ASTRO-only Quantars
Replies: 6
Views: 1520

Linking ASTRO-only Quantars

I'm brainstorming future projects from an amateur perspective and would like to know my options. I would like to link, over long distance, two or more Quantars operating strictly in ASTRO CAI mode. My understanding is that the only way to do this is via ASTRO modem daughter boards. Considering this ...
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:38 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Soft ID?
Replies: 3
Views: 732

Re: Soft ID?

kato56 wrote:Is Option H/Q352 soft ID?

Q352 User Definable ID
Yes
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:37 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Astro IMBE Project 25 Question
Replies: 8
Views: 1516

Re: Astro IMBE Project 25 Question

It's the marketing name Motorola came up with for their version of APCO-25. It conforms to the standard plus has some added features for Motorola-only gear.
by Twisted_Pear
Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:34 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Quantar / DES-XL Encryption Question
Replies: 2
Views: 740

Re: Quantar / DES-XL Encryption Question

The Quantar isn't concerned with what's conveyed through the voice section. Clear or coded it won't matter. It's handled on the subscriber side. The station doesn't do any voice decoding. If you were to attach a phone patch or a console then that's a different story and would require a DIU that woul...
by Twisted_Pear
Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:05 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Astro Saber and Saber SI what's the diff??
Replies: 18
Views: 2212

Re: Astro Saber and Saber SI what's the diff??

I can take mine apart and take some photos if anyone is that interested.

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