Users may not create topics, posts, or private messages containing or relating to the following material (especially pertaining to Motorola copyrighted software, unless you want Motorola to come along and shut this site down):

  • Listing for sale or trade of, or links to sites offering for sale or trade of, or giving away, Radio
    Service Software (RSS) or Customer Programming Software (CPS)
  • Profanity, pornography, defamation, or slanderous remarks directed towards any individual or entity
  • Commercial advertising (except in the Batboard Vendors forum, as approved by the Admin/Mod Staff)
  • Any other items which may be deemed as offensive

If any topics, posts, or private messages containing or relating to the aforementioned material are brought to the attention of the Admin/Mod Staff, they will be deleted.

Additional FAQ items appear here in Forum Rules. Please review them for posting guidelines and further clarification.

Search found 175 matches

by desperado
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Radio Shelter Relocation
Replies: 6
Views: 172

Re: Radio Shelter Relocation

If it's Motorola gear remember that it has to be R56. So the building will need a new ground halo installed around it.
I guess my biggest question is why move the shelter? Is there some reason for the relocation?
by desperado
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: ASTRO Products Feature Requests & Future Speculation
Topic: Cap Plus radios on LCP System
Replies: 1
Views: 479

Re: Cap Plus radios on LCP System

The radios will only talk on one site and will miss any traffic that does not originate from that site. Obviously the roaming will not work to the other LCP sites. Troubleshooting this can be maddening. I had several radios that got missed during an upgrade and they would work mostly but were interm...
by desperado
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: Consoles
Topic: Centracom Series II Consoles
Replies: 2
Views: 1072

Re: Centracom Series II Consoles

Where do I begin. The biggest difference with a CC2 up to the Gold Elite was the OP card in the CEB and how it was programmed. The CC2 originally Had A special set of OP cards with custom firmware that you programmed with terminal and a printer. I don't remember the names given to these cards, but I...
by desperado
Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:43 am
Forum: Consoles
Topic: MIP 5000 TX audio cutting in and out
Replies: 1
Views: 3126

Re: MIP 5000 TX audio cutting in and out

Get wire shark on the switch were the audio gateways are and do a port mirror or use a tap. Look at the traffic coming into the gateway and see if the audio cuts out before it is received by the gateway
by desperado
Sun May 10, 2015 10:04 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Old portable and pager nostalgia thread?
Replies: 17
Views: 2620

Re: Old portable and pager nostalgia thread?

Saw this thread and thought about something I have that is probably made of unobtainium. I have a MOCOM-70 head that is in the plastic. I have just the head, and it's missing the lower aluminum plate that the photocell mounted in and the photo cell. Any idea of value or where to try listing it besid...
by desperado
Sun May 03, 2015 4:46 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: DAYTON 2015! Who's in? The official 2015 thread
Replies: 11
Views: 2380

Re: DAYTON 2015! Who's in? The official 2015 thread

Gonna be there in the same spot as last year. Not sure what all I am bringing to sell. I know I am bringing some VHF and UHF duplexers and most likely a stickerless XTL5K VHF high power with a W-9 head. Gonna have a VHF and UHF MSF5000 as well, Coax and connectors out the wazoo. If you are looking f...
by desperado
Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:44 pm
Forum: MotoTRBO Portables and Mobiles (4xxx/6xxx) 1.0 Series Subscribers
Topic: Moto Trbo System Comparasons
Replies: 21
Views: 2912

Re: Moto Trbo System Comparasons

Well, that pretty much sums up how it was done. IT was a new system as the TRBO product line was being released and was put together by old guard folks. We have a connect plus system that the one site is completely enveloped by the second sites coverage area. They were two seperate LTR systems and b...
by desperado
Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:55 am
Forum: MotoTRBO Portables and Mobiles (4xxx/6xxx) 1.0 Series Subscribers
Topic: Moto Trbo System Comparasons
Replies: 21
Views: 2912

Re: Moto Trbo System Comparasons

Couple things to consider. TRBO modulation for whatever reason carries over the air very well. Break out an Ohio map and find Fayette county and Licking county. Fayette went TRBO running VHF running 40 watt XPR8300's and Licking County was running 65 watt 5 site analog simulcast. The two systems sha...
by desperado
Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:39 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra Remote Head Distance Limitations?
Replies: 5
Views: 997

Re: Spectra Remote Head Distance Limitations?

Motorola had a factory part number for a 150 foot control head cable.
They were used to connect a head in a ladder truck.
Beyond 150 I couldn't say.... and that is a factory cable, and not cat 5
by desperado
Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:12 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Returned Power / SWR
Replies: 9
Views: 1056

Re: Returned Power / SWR

Ok, Bird meters are great, if you know how to use them and understand their limitations. First limitation. A Bird 43 is either 5 or 10% can't remember which, of FULL SCALE. S a 100 watt slug at 100 watts can be 90, 110 or anything in between. Second, Where are you placing the meter? It's either betw...
by desperado
Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:38 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MIP5000 Dropping Inbound Audio
Replies: 2
Views: 518

Re: MIP5000 Dropping Inbound Audio

Check the alignment of the consolette radios. I bet they are drifting off frequency.
by desperado
Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:33 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Returned Power / SWR
Replies: 9
Views: 1056

Re: Returned Power / SWR

First question I would have is how long is the line and second what kind of line. Here's the thing with just going by what the watt meter reads at the bottom of the line. Each connector junction has a .5 DB loss. So figuring there is a polyphaser or other lightning suppressor in the line you have 2 ...
by desperado
Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:23 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: USCI Question
Replies: 5
Views: 732

Re: USCI Question

As far as the PL comments. I installed and manage a Harris / Spectracom based 5 site 2 channel simulcast system for a county in Ohio. The Spectracom GPS and a module attached to it generate the PL for the system. The PLs that it generates are NOT right on. They range from .1 to .3 off the standard P...
by desperado
Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:20 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: mc1000 -> L3276 -> CDM750
Replies: 5
Views: 707

Re: mc1000 -> L3276 -> CDM750

OK if only 5 wires then cable is for single channel. Connect the wires per the manual and program the radio accessory pins to enable the channel change feature. Yes, wireline configuration alignment is what you need to do. You will need some sort of a audio voltmeter or oscilloscope to do the alignm...
by desperado
Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:37 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Centracom console question
Replies: 7
Views: 831

Re: Centracom console question

anything you looking for ?
by desperado
Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:45 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Coverage loss due to Narrow Banding
Replies: 18
Views: 1355

Re: Coverage loss due to Narrow Banding

One of the things I ran into with narrowbanding was antenna gain issues, oddly enough the antenna having too much gain and the radiation point being too low. I had a customer that had a high gain Station Master antenna on a sled mount on the roof of a building that when we narrowbanded them the radi...
by desperado
Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:32 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MIP 5000 Network Connectivity
Replies: 8
Views: 1766

Re: MIP 5000 Network Connectivity

I would verify that all gateways are hardcoded with a MULTICAST IP and unique UTP port. Once that is done the next set is to grab a laptop with wireshark on it and go to the far end and have then talk. See if the MULTICAST traffic is arriving at the site. Begin backing up through the network until y...
by desperado
Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:04 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: mc1000 -> L3276 -> CDM750
Replies: 5
Views: 707

Re: mc1000 -> L3276 -> CDM750

OK, tone remote control. First off, get something that you can listen to the output of the deskset (2 or 4 wire audio and ensure that it's a tone deskset and not a local control deskset. You should hear a couple short beeps and then a very low constant tone coming from the deskset. The way this all ...
by desperado
Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:39 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Centracom console question
Replies: 7
Views: 831

Re: Centracom console question

no,,, not all of it. I have pulled all the red cards for the most part and it's an Elite series CEB other than a couple BIM's The OMI I am using is actually a COIM but I couldn't tell you the version off the top of my head. The OP position is CC2 though not 2+ so maybe that has something to do with ...
by desperado
Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:08 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MIP 5000 Network Connectivity
Replies: 8
Views: 1766

Re: MIP 5000 Network Connectivity

Does the radio IP traffic cross any router or layer 3 switch before besides the firewalls?
Do you have each device with a different MULTICAST IP and UTP port are are they within the standard multicast subnet of 235.0.0.0?
by desperado
Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:32 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Centracom console question
Replies: 7
Views: 831

Re: Centracom console question

Yes, MUPLed the COIM and I do have they defined as DCCM's Have tried them as T1R1 and T14R14 both scrolling and interlocking. No dice.
by desperado
Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:16 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Centracom console question
Replies: 7
Views: 831

Centracom console question

I have a Centracom console I have been piecing together and updating as I can. I now have 2 COIMs and got some DCCM's to go in the button and LED op position. I have a CIE, but I would rather stick with the Button and LED op for now at least. I like the look of it better. Now my issue. I can't seem ...
by desperado
Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:12 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MIP5000 setup question
Replies: 10
Views: 1069

Re: MIP5000 setup question

I assume that you have the dongle in both op positions. So a few questions. Is all the hardware plugged into the local switch? Can the second op see the First op computer on the network ( with it ping it)? Can the second op see the gateway (ping it)? The first OP computer is also the server for the ...
by desperado
Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:56 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Remoting Motorola Gold Elite Console
Replies: 3
Views: 456

Re: Remoting Motorola Gold Elite Console

Yep. possible but VERY expensive. First option is Roci Cori modems for each console... second option, and only if you already have an ambassador switch is installing T-1 circuits between the two locations and adding the needed ABE cards to the switch to interface the CEB's that will aslo need moved ...
by desperado
Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:48 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MSF 5000 Broadcast Band Interference
Replies: 33
Views: 1604

Re: MSF 5000 Broadcast Band Interference

If you are hearing the transmitter in the repeater, then it's getting deep into the receiver section of the repeater. With those signal levels, first thing I would do is pull all the 214 and go to hardline with properly installed connectors. You mentioned superflex. If you are referring to LMR400/60...
by desperado
Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:14 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominating
Replies: 29
Views: 2413

Re: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominati

Bill_G So, why didn't Fayette just change freqs? The logistics of touching every radio in the county aside, another channel may (emphasis on may since high band can be crowded) have worked better. We've run into similar problems with Trbo systems that get "interference" from co-channel use...
by desperado
Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:06 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominating
Replies: 29
Views: 2413

Re: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominati

I'm always happy to lose bids like that, and then come in to play janitor a year or two later. Because that's what we do ... That's great Bill but how do you clean that up? Ultimately the Kenwoods will go in a box or on Gov-Deals and radios that are 100% compatible (Motorola gear) will be purchased...
by desperado
Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:56 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominating
Replies: 29
Views: 2413

Re: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominati

Now, about the DMR in the APX radios. That was the original plan, but DMR and it's range and issues with interference changed all that. If you go grab an Ohio map, I will tell you a story of DMR. Find Fayette county on the map. Now find Licking County on that same map. Far apart, different area's of...
by desperado
Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:24 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominating
Replies: 29
Views: 2413

Re: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominati

Well, it might not be quite that bad. But the little fish really want to play in the big pond. There is a reason that the development at Schaumburg goes on in a faraday cage. There are pictures of the vans that would sit out across Algonquin listening to any little bit of RF that would leak out of t...
by desperado
Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:53 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominating
Replies: 29
Views: 2413

Re: A couple of interesting articles about Motorola dominati

Yeah, It's Motorola's barbeque and it does taste good as long as your not funding the purchase or trying to put brand X radios on their system. From the point of an integrator the whole Kenwood P-25 thing is a thorn in your side. You have the customer awe struck at the cost of the system. You have t...
by desperado
Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:13 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Xts3000 cps: why can't I get all personalities encrypted?.
Replies: 7
Views: 1023

Re: Xts3000 cps: why can't I get all personalities encrypte

Try programming the ham channels narrow and I bet the securenet will not work then. Need DES, not DES XL for narrow I believe. OFB is P25 only.
by desperado
Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:16 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Narrowband - why does Motorola specs imply deafer radio?
Replies: 14
Views: 3863

Re: Narrowband - why does Motorola specs imply deafer radio?

One thing to keep in mind with SNR. Going from wide to narrow didn't change the amount of noise on a frequency only the deviation of the radios communicating on the frequency changed. Since you are listening twice as hard for hanf as much deviation, the ratio changed. Filters did get narrowed but no...
by desperado
Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:57 pm
Forum: MotoTRBO Portables and Mobiles (4xxx/6xxx) 1.0 Series Subscribers
Topic: CAPACITY PLUS TRUNK ISSUES
Replies: 5
Views: 845

Re: CAPACITY PLUS TRUNK ISSUES

OK, lets start with the basics and go from there. First thing, go verify that you have the channels programmed correctly.. Ch1 slot 1 Ch1 slot 2 Ch2 slot 3 CH2 slot 4 CH3 slot 5 CH3 slot 6 It's easy to get this part wrong and easier to miss when troubleshooting. Verify it in the radios as well. And ...
by desperado
Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:41 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Motobridge with APX6500 mobile, need help.
Replies: 3
Views: 636

Re: Motobridge with APX6500 mobile, need help.

So, when is the Motorola SE scheduled to come out and install it?
by desperado
Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:39 pm
Forum: MotoTRBO Portables and Mobiles (4xxx/6xxx) 1.0 Series Subscribers
Topic: New MotoTRBO Radios Are Coming
Replies: 9
Views: 1377

Re: New MotoTRBO Radios Are Coming

From what i understand the CP and CM 200's while being digital will not communicate with mototrbo equipment, only with other cp /cm models.
Te XPR7000 is going to be interesting as it looks to be build on the APX 4000 platform
by desperado
Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:35 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: PM1500 FL 01-90
Replies: 3
Views: 1218

Re: PM1500 FL 01-90

Assuming that this is an ebay radio it's one of two reasonable possibilities. One is that you bought a broke radio that has had some failure in service by the previous owner and they just threw it on ebay to dump it (this is the preferred type of failure because the factory will repair it for a fee ...
by desperado
Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:26 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Xts3000 cps: why can't I get all personalities encrypted?.
Replies: 7
Views: 1023

Re: Xts3000 cps: why can't I get all personalities encrypte

Assuming that you have a keyloader, and the proper current key for the encryption (if not don't bother)
Check the key types in service mode that the radio supports. My assumption is that the radio is DVP only which will work on wide band analog (ham and weather) but not for any CAI digital channels.
by desperado
Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:22 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: MTS2000 Wrong Talkgroups
Replies: 8
Views: 1243

Re: MTS2000 Wrong Talkgroups

The short answer is no.
by desperado
Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:28 am
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Zetron 4010 question
Replies: 5
Views: 640

Re: Zetron 4010 question

Wondering if it's a self contained console or a op position tied back to back room rack. I am thinking that Zetron made an op position that tied to a 4020 console system that looked like the self contained 4010. If it is a 4010, they do still have parts for them, although not cheap, they are availab...
by desperado
Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:45 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Whats the point of buying a 110w radio?
Replies: 71
Views: 12523

Re: Whats the point of buying a 110w radio?

They been relying on leased lines for years, hell the original civil defense sirens in Newark Ohio were on leased lines for a long time, not to mention their radio system. And am surprised that the Ohio, Michigan, and I believe Illinois have state wide systems. Of course the Ohio system is 3.5 Smart...
by desperado
Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:24 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Recording from an MC3000 Console
Replies: 9
Views: 1103

Re: Recording from an MC3000 Console

Yeah, if the consolette is close then the tape out is a good way to go. Our situation was the desksets were in an ER on the ground floor. The radios were in a penthouse 14 floors away and on the other end of the hospital.
by desperado
Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:10 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Recording from an MC3000 Console
Replies: 9
Views: 1103

Re: Recording from an MC3000 Console

Well, I do.. we needed to hook up several 3000 desk sets to a PA system and the customer wanted to hear the TX and the RX. MCM sells a little stick on 2 channel mixer amp that has variable inputs and oputput and runs on 24 volts. They are a commercial broadcast product and have the 130 dollar price ...
by desperado
Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:30 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Whats the point of buying a 110w radio?
Replies: 71
Views: 12523

Re: Whats the point of buying a 110w radio?

You are trying to answer a question with technical thought, logic, RF theory and the like. None of that applies. Just completely ignored the entire thread and went to hit reply, didn't you? Not really, I saw all the discussions that it's only 3 db more than a 50 watt and that the high power radios ...
by desperado
Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:10 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Whats the point of buying a 110w radio?
Replies: 71
Views: 12523

Re: Whats the point of buying a 110w radio?

You are trying to answer a question with technical thought, logic, RF theory and the like. None of that applies. The reason that Moto sells 110 watt radios is there are customers that demand them. It goes back to the low band days of simplex operation without repeaters. All that stuff was high power...
by desperado
Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:25 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MCC7500 Manual
Replies: 9
Views: 2155

Re: MCC7500 Manual

Well, so that there are no questions later about all this I will explain how that goes. There will be about 4 to 6 people that have access to make any changes to the system. The Admins. For everyone else it's locked down like the gold in Fort Knox. I don't mean them using 123abc for default password...
by desperado
Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:08 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MCC7500 Manual
Replies: 9
Views: 2155

Re: MCC7500 Manual

Make sure as an admin that you get an account on MOL. IT's all there.
If you are NOT the system admin, then I would have to ask what you want with the manuals.
by desperado
Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:06 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: At whits end. CC2's and the people......
Replies: 13
Views: 1126

Re: At whits end. CC2's and the people......

I found it. You can't put a ANI card in where a OMI (slots 4 and 5) and expect it to work right.
Still having issues with my Y cable but other than that I am up and running.
by desperado
Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:23 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: MERCOM logging recorder
Replies: 1
Views: 327

MERCOM logging recorder

I have a logging recorder from a pulled 911 system. Mercom brand audiolog is the name on it aI believe. I am running into an issue getting into it and reconfiguring the logging lines (need admin access and don't have it) Does anyone happen to know the installer username and password the factory used...
by desperado
Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:33 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: At whits end. CC2's and the people......
Replies: 13
Views: 1126

Re: At whits end. CC2's and the people......

OK, I have audio. I also have a continuous tone coming from the speakers. I need to figure out the Y cable pinout so I can make one. I assume that it's not fully parallel which is what I tried and am getting the tone with I also need to blow another PROM for the thing. I didn't get everything right ...
by desperado
Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:15 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: At whits end. CC2's and the people......
Replies: 13
Views: 1126

Re: At whits end. CC2's and the people......

Well that would explain this heartburn. I was told that an AEI board was only required if I had DCCM modules in the console. I have a couple AEI boards at the office and will put one in. While we are talking about this. I still can't get the other TOMI to receive an upload of a new config. I have tr...

Go to advanced search