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*yawn*... More Junque... One foot in the grave and they are spending time on this nonsense? Nice. Can you please explain the ergonomics of that front mounted PTT? I thought we were done with that... Idiots! Not idiots. Actually very smart. The radio is insanely easy to operate. This is important fo...

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Has anybody here had a chance to try these yet? I own a small fleet of DLR1060 radios and a MUC. They work excellent. They are compatible with the DTR 410/550/650 and the new DTR 600/700 series. Range and RF performance are identical to the DTR series. Audio output and battery life are also similar...

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Here are some initial first impressions from playing with my DTR700 radios and getting them working with my DTR650 fleet and DLR1060 fleet. Likes: Best audio of the DTRs (and DLRs) goes to the DTR700 due to AGC in the transmitted audio. It doesn't matter if you talk a few inches away or climb up on ...

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Motorola has been updating the main page on their site for the DTR series. I've been checking the page on a daily basis for the DTR700 and DTR600. The DTR700 and DTR600 weren't there a few hours ago and still showed the DTR 410/550 models. Now the page shows only the DTR 700/600 models. The old DTR5...

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The DTR700 and DTR600 are on M's site now. The expected release date from M's factory was around 15DEC2018. DTR700: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/two-way-radios/on-site-business-radios/dtr-series/dtr700.html#tabproductinfo DTR600: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/t...

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Hi, I'm the one who is trying to program the radio for Jeff. It's weird and my setup works fine with my HT1250 portables. HVN9025 CPS version: 6.07.04 Supported region(s): AA And before anyone asks....YES, I acquired the CPS legally from /\/\ in 2004. Jeff's HT1250 model: AAH25RDH9AA6A? THe "?&...

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Anybody here remember the Kenwood TR-2600A 2m handheld back in the mid 80's? The 2600A offered an MDC-like feature and simply called it "digital coded squelch" (DCS). The DCS feature was designed for paging and selective calling and was designed to work through repeaters. You programmed in...

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Interestingly, we have found the maxtrac mod is more stable than the 5 mhz Vectron oscillator. YMMV. Apparently, there is nothing magical about using a 5 mhz reference, since Motorola allows these repeaters to be jumpered for 100 khz, 1 mhz, 5 mhz and 10 mhz references. John N1OTY HMMM....interesti...

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Hi John, I was at that seminar (900MHz) at Boxboro! I remember the jumper wire mod mentioned. My g/f was also with me. What clicked with her during the talk about how hams got their radios was with how commercial radios are programmed (via PC & software, etc.). She's seen me do that enough times...

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greetings all....... i have an msf-5000 analog repeater on 900, but is missing the hi stability osc module.... i heard there is a work around where the HSO module is not needed....... anyone have any details? tnx, joe ki8hp There is a simple workaround where you supply your own HSO in place of the ...

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Which radios can have 'F' in the MDC field? Most that I've tried won't allow it. I think I had a Systems Saber that would accept BEEF. I think the first digit can't be F and the highest first digit allowed is D. IIRC, DEEE was the highest value allowed. It should accept BEEF as an ID. DEAF should a...

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Hightower wrote:What game was this? It'd be fun to decode the MDC and see what ID it is - maybe something like: F00D or BADD or BEEF or ACDC.... you get the picture

I've used DEAD as an MDC ID before.

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Kenwood 5310. Its like a 3180 on crack and it does P25 :lol: The TK-5310 w/LCD and full keypad is on my list. :lol: I won't dwell any further on non- M radios since they are OT. For M radios, I'd go with an XTS2500 w/full display and keypad. FPP is nice to have but not a necessity. All future radio...

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Sure you can! No rules against analog. There's quite a few people up here using IMBE on MURS - not that I'm condoning it, but it's like peeing in the snow. Fun to do, just don't get caught. I was under the impression that the only rules were 2w ERP - and no continious stand-alone transmitters (incl...

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If you were in the market today for a new radio, what would you buy? I would lean toward Motorola but if I were forced to buy something other than Motorola, it would be ICOM. I already own some ICOM portables and mobiles (both amateur and commercial). I've also owned Kenwood (amateur and commercial...

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Are you trying to program the function buttion(s) for a SHORT press or a LONG press? Short press = Just press a button normally and then release. Don't hold the button down. Long press = Press AND HOLD a button for the minimum time required to be recognized as a long button press. The minimum time r...

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They are not encrypted and YES, you CAN listen to other DT users that are in range. The "channel" and "code" have to match for There's also some handshaking taking place between phones. When you press PTT, your phone briefly transmits a FHSS signal and then waits and listens for...

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--Are they "in the clear"? They are not encrypted and YES, you CAN listen to other DT users that are in range. The "channel" and "code" have to match for you to hear them and you could also talk to them in this case. You can also set a code on a channel as "receiv...

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Now here's the million-dollar question: Nextel Direct Talk and the DTR-series radios use very similar -if not identical- technology in the same band. Anyone got a Direct Talk-capable phone and a DTR radio that wants to see if they'll talk to each other? I have tried, it did not work. If they had th...

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Give it the multi-day continuous keydown test!!!!! Also do the multi-day continuous keydown test in a hot environment, like in the 40C (104F) to 55C (141F) ambient temperature range. This simulates long-term operation in a *HOT* equipment room at a site where the building's A/C has failed or is non...

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At least the power supply IS made in the U.S.A. by a very good company who knows how to make a good power supply.... Looks like a TNC connector for the TX... Uhh...the power supply says it's "Made in Taiwan" according to the label on the supply. That would explain the cheap SUNON fan used...

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The more I look at the pics, the more I want one.
* DROOL *

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The transmit connector is an N Female. The Ethernet is going to be used to link sites together over IP, and future enhancements, no GPS data this I know. So I am told by developers. Give it the multi-day continuous keydown test!!!!! Also do the multi-day continuous keydown test in a hot environment...

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alex wrote:
mr.syntrx wrote:What does the ethernet interface do?
It's probably for the GPS and Messaging/Dispatch options that are available on the platform.

-Alex

Also maybe Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP)?

n1das

You've got to be [I can't read the rules] me... It's two mobiles? Jeez... Talk about cutting corners. I'd wager that thing isn't even manufactured by Motorola, but by some contractor... That, or they've completely revamped their engineering staff and NOBODY from days of yore are left. I'll be VERY ...

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If you were in the market today for a new radio, what would you buy? I would lean toward Motorola but if I were forced to buy something other than Motorola, it would be ICOM. I already own some ICOM portables and mobiles (both amateur and commercial). I've also owned Kenwood (amateur and commercial...

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fire_master_21 wrote:The only legal place to get CPS is from Motorola

What he said!

I suspect the customer either left out some required information or answered one or more questions incorrectly on the restricted SLA application, causing /\/\ to deny the application.

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I have a ICOM IC F3061 i just recveived it and i havnt programmed it yet is it normal for it to just stay squelched until i program. There is no Monitor icon on display. Also what do you think of this radio compared to the Motorola HT1250 I don't think you're going to find much help here for any IC...

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I don't know about being exactly on frequency....but... There's a few repeaters over here that I've maintained, on 461.375 and 462.175, and they both use the same DPL. On occasion, they will cause interference with eachother's output signals if they're both transmitting at the same time. That sound...

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DPL is around 25 or so years old. Anybody know EXACTLY how old? Has anybody with problem BPR radios checked to be sure they are on the correct frequency, say within a few hundred Hz? DPL is sensitive to frequency errors in the transmitter and receiver. A signal w/DPL received a couple of kHz off-fre...

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I hate to say it, but I think the Magone's are a case of, you get what you pay for. Our company bought several of them. They work ok, but over all we were fairly disappointed with them. Does the MagOne have X-PAND audio companding in narrow mode and can it be enabled or disabled in the programming?...

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Actually, Motorola is planning on offering basic privacy (16-bit) for the MOTOTRBO radio sometime late this year. It will more than likely be a firmware upgrade In that case, I'll wait a while (a year or so) before I make any MOTOTRBO purchases. Waiting will also give Moto time to find and fix firm...

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We know it CAN transmit continuously, but does a MOTOTRBO repeater NEED to transmit continuously? No, unless both timeslots are in use with people talking. Otherwise, if nobody's talking or otherwise exchanging traffic, it won't transmit at all, just like any conventional repeater. It is just a rep...

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I think you misunderstand...Just because the repeater is capable of continuous duty, doesn't mean it will be used as such. There are many continuous duty capable repeaters made by many different manufacturers...the licensing doesn't change because they're well-built. Analog or digital, the repeater...

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Bob wrote:
Are both $299 on my MOL, so I guess it's covered under the general SLA.

Just found it on my MOL too and I already have a General SLA in place.

I'm currently not in the market for anything yet but doing my homework while *drooling* over the MOTOTRBO info.

Thanks!

n1das

Bob wrote: RVN5115 MOTOTRBO CPS, Tuner, and AirTracer Applications CD

Does the CPS require a Restricted SLA or does the General SLA cover it?

n1das

Anybod have any updates on MOTOTRBO pricing and availability?

How much $ for the portables and mobiles?
When will production quantities be available?

MOTOTRBO = *DROOL*

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wavetar wrote:Now, since the format is proprietary, chances are it won't be coming out in any scanners, unlike the open protocol IMBE format.

Isn't the ETSI standard (ETSI-TS102 361-1) an OPEN standard too?
I agree...buy MOTOTRBO radio, program. Not very secure.

MOTOTRBO = *DROOL*

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OK. Thanks guys. Im starting to understand it now. We have had our frequencies for many years now, so Im gonna go with 25k. I just checked on the FCC site. It said 20k That's probably 20k0f3e in the emission designator. The best choice to go with in the radios is 25kHz spacing (16k0f3e bandwidth). ...

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It's my understanding that wide/narrow banding refers more to the allowed signal deviation from the assigned frequenc(y/ies). Wide band is allowed +/- 5 kHz on either side of the base frequency and narrow +/- 2.5 kHz. It's also my understanding that any new licenses are required to be narrow band. ...

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"wide" = 5kHz max deviation with 3kHz max modulation frequency --> 16kHz bandwidth. The emission designator is 16k0f3e. Some older "wide" bandwidth systems used 5kHz max deviation with 5kHz max modulation frequency and occupied 20kHz of spectrum --> 20k0f3e emission desginator. C...

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Audio on the portables and mobiles is superb in my opinion but your mileage may vary depending on the install or application. My experience is based in comparison to the Waris and Commercial series radios so others may disagree. Excellent! That's what I was curious about. If it blows away the Waris...

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Only complaint so far is the audio sounds nasily, takes a little getting use to but over all sounds decent. Is the nasily audio heard in analog or digital mode? Does the MOTOTRBO have X-Pand audio companding? Could your nasily audio be due to this feature being ON? I haven't seen X-Pand listed as a...

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I've read other threads on here that it's really hard to get Motorola to sell you the CPS. Is that still true with these new radios? M technically won't ever SELL you the CPS or any CPS for that matter because the CPS like any other software product is LICENSED, not SOLD to you. When M approves you...

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They use /\/\'s crappy "X-Pand" on all the channels as a default, and you cannot turn them off. FYI, the DPL is OK on them when talking to other radios (Say a Jedi or Kramer radio), but PL usually crashes becuase of the x-pand. They DO have 3 levels of voice encryption/inversion, however,...

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Thanks! This is the kind of general information I'm looking for.

What about RSS? I suspect it requires a different RSS than the HT750/HT1250/CDM750/CDM1250 radios use.

n1das

Hi, The bit pattern for DPL 525 is 101010101 - which is why they DON'T use it - in anybody's system. I have no idea how you got it into an MTR, but I would suggest trying something more standard. 73 DE Hartley I also suggest using a standard code, part of the origninal 83 code set. I know some Icom...

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I wish M would get with the program and include all 104 DPL codes like what other manufacturers have done. M radios only have the standard 83 codes plus a few non-standard codes. The exact number varies by model and series. It's not a country-specific thing. When I use DPL, I stick to using codes th...

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$317.00 for 3 years for the HT series. That's what I paid back in September 2004.

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From searching on Motorola Online (MOL), I looked at the battery packs and accessories listed for the HT750/HT250 and PR860 portables. The PR860 appears to use the same accessories and battery packs! That answers one of my questions. The other stuff I'm wondering about is how well the PR860 holds up...

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