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compuman81

FAIL 001 indicates VCO out of lock. The radio needs to be realigned first, to see if that's the issue. Otherwise, it's either a hardware failure or someone has forced an incorrect-bandsplit codeplug into that radio.

R06.71 is a weird firmware version... is that the rebandable firmware for 9600 ...

compuman81

Akardam is absolutely correct on this issue, furthermore, I might add that the original legitimate radios were something like 1A0001, and INCLUDED q53.. etc.

Motorola would not sell FPP with Digital ID Display claiming it was incompatible. Although we have seen that it works just fine with it ...

compuman81

The reason why doug brought the command board up was because according to Motorola, older command boards were not compatibile with the plus vocon and they would have to be replaced along with the Astro Spectra controller. I don't know which Rev board it was first compatibile with, however I've had ...

compuman81

Sorry guys, I've really been trying to get to this.

I've just been REALLY busy lately. I know there's a lot of issues with this little proggie which was a just weekend project originally.

I'll try to update that code on my flight out on Tuesday. Besides the problems with the bad flashcodes ...

compuman81

If you write the radio with version 10 CPS, you will need to set it up like the dialog box tells you to. This will work with earlier firmware, however it will update your codeplug structure, so don't expect to go back to just making as many personalities you wanted like you could with 9, you're ...

compuman81

per Motorola there is no legit factory radio with Q52 only, period end of story.

Q53 is FPP and cloning
Q52 is basically a software dongle to allow the feds not to have a hardware dongle.

It doesn't make a difference. Who decides what is and what isn't legitimate? Motorola has made things in ...

compuman81

Let me clear some things up :

Just because a radio has the Q52 and Q53 options in it's feature set doesn't mean that it's not a legitimate factory radio.

Akardam is correct. If you have them both in the radio, then you will not need the dongle. However, if you just order Q52, you will not be ...

compuman81

yeah, it has its issues and needs some updating.

there's a lot of things i don't like about it, so i'll fix a few things.

I'll just try to burn some time finalizing the java version for you guys to load on your blackberrys sidekicks, treos, and nextels and publish it. here on this thread

compuman81

I would say there's an equal chance that your codeplug is corrupt as the hardware is bad. I've seen radios with bad codeplugs do that. I would suggest you find someone to send you an S-Record for your radio if you have the ability to put it in as preliminary step in troubleshooting the operation of ...

compuman81

Depends on the state. In NY, it is a violation (pretty sure, not a mis or fel) to have a radio capable of receiving public safety freq's in a vehicle. Now, the law was recently changed which makes it even more vauge, but thats the jist of it. There is a ham exception clause, but because of some of ...

compuman81

There is/was a "hack" floating around that let you extend the number of channels in a Talkgroup scan list on the XTS3000 and Astro Saber to do the same as conventional (15+1). It was posted on here a few years ago, but was removed pretty quickly. I've got no idea where you could find it, except to ...

compuman81

Beat me to it again.............

i'd better just keep my mouth shut next time.

compuman81

hahahahhahaha

Didn't think of that!!!

No no no, that's the best part. Still carries the M logo, thankfully.

compuman81

Don't you just love it when you submit the inhibit command and the system responds "SUCCESSFUL" ?

Gotcha!

Sure gives me the warm fuzzy! :D

.......and when you see the same radio back on the system 5 minutes later after a successfull inhibit. Priceless :lol:

For everything else, use ...

compuman81

use 3.00.02

It doesn't have anything to do with the radio, just used to put the data in..........

Just get the S-rec and use it to load. As long as you have I or N at the beginning of your DSP ver code, you're fine.

compuman81

Make sure you have that couple hundred dollar flash cable that you need too, not just the regular programming cable.

compuman81

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........................................................

m0t0r0la is up to something fishy......a change in the serial protocol for the display? maybe that's not the only thing they're adding...

don't bust your screen.....

compuman81

just get firmware that supports 9600 control channels into that radio and copy a prom from a radio that has 9600 if you don't have access to lab. otherwise, the firmware just needs to be downgraded to around host version 6.

compuman81

Verizon Wireless

They take care of their employees, and working with a lot of former VZW employees, i've heard a lot of good things. These guys had a blast throwing up towers as project managers.

Verizon Wireless is now a 55/45 share distro between verizon and vodafone, its original owner. i'm ...

compuman81

Its that radios version #s causing the problem.

I think you should be thankful you have a copy of CPS that programs that radio. I doubt you'll have luck with any of the versions available from MOL.

K

compuman81

not sure about the older radios but with the new ones on receive the radio automatically searches the Keyslots in effort to decrypt the transmission regardless of which Key is selected for transmission encryption . This very well may not be the case with the System Saber , however.

compuman81

Upgraded the Firmware in this radio along with some other CDMs today.

Now has Version R05.05.19

That was basically a waste. I guess I just need to buy a different control board for this radio, and find someone who needs LTR, because I sure don't.

Kris

compuman81

problem radio has

imbe
h14
868/298 multikey/otar
conventional mode

compuman81

In question : 06.10.02 / 06.05.02
Works : 05.60.00 / 08.02.02

Both have Digital DSP

I have many other controllers with lower firmware/dsp that have never had a problem doing it, but I can't see anything else causing the problem.
Even The Astro Sabers with ancient firmware do it Alright.

compuman81

At what version firmware does MDC Delay of Silence and PTT ID start working at? For the life of me, I can't get it to work with this radio which has R06.10.02.

I have a radio with 5.6 in it, and it does it fine....I can't figure this out.

This couldn't have anything to do with the DSP version ...

compuman81

M25RKF9DU5A
103TACXXXX

compuman81

What do you mean? DSP tends to float away after a few revisions in a major version number increase ( major being the 8).

I know one of the recent upgrades in the a25 host was for something related to the 2500 , but I can't remember what. I remember reading either way it doesn't affect the 5000.

I ...

compuman81

That would make sense.

The radio has all the original hardware, I had just never seen this before. I'll see what I can do.

compuman81

Got an Astro Saber here on 800 That produces some strange audio after its volume is turned up past about 65%. It sounds perfectly fine below, but when I turn it up to make it louder it sounds like the radio is in a small room and it sounds like its feeding back into itself making a strange variant ...

compuman81

Great, Model Tag is Missing

All that I see here is :

Tanapa IMUE6024B
Version # R02.00.01
0101

Then Serial

compuman81

Sigh...

Im going to take it into a dealer on monday to see what they say about a firmware upgrade. Ill ask them to tell me what it really is.

For some time between me and some other board members, this radio has been nicknamed the hermafradite radio, because none of us have ever seen anything ...

compuman81

i think the whole issue here is that a different subroutine in the firmware is used to transmit/decode the MDC when the radio is in LTR mode, and theres not sufficient flash memory in older models for both routines. Is there a significant physical difference between the 5an's and 6an's?

compuman81

Well the problem is that the radio came with a new head and no label. I suspected it was a 1250 when i bought it, however i verified the menu and back buttons worked beforehand and noticed the different stuff in the menu. Di a version exist that gave you ls trunking plus 160 on conventional?

When ...

compuman81

if someone is willing to email me a codeplug i'm willing to try, I can configure an MDC personality however the options to assign Signaling to the conventional personality are greyed out.

email me with the board feature and i'll hit you back so you get send it.

firmware is: R04.00.00

Seems, old ...

compuman81

I still want someone to tell me why my 403-470 CDM 1550 160 Channels Won't do MDC. I find people tend to use the 160 Channel rule for whether the radio can do MDC stuff on conventional.

Apparently just because the radio will do 160 Conventional Channels doesn't mean MDC on Conventional.

Maybe a ...

compuman81

That would make sense. I wasn't around when this stuff was being used, so I don't know anything about it. I know the radio automatically tries all the different keys to get a valid stream and if i doesn't then the little red light double flashes....so I don't really know why that would be necessary ...

compuman81

I've been experimenting with Analog DES-XL encryption on my XTS 5000 and i've noticed a few things:

1) If a MDC Personality is assigned to a personality that is also setup for SECURENET encryption, it will transmit the MDC personalities ID PRE transmission, but will give you no tone, regardless if ...

compuman81

I'm obviously not talking about normal operation.................. the system works as designed to provided there's a decent signal.

OK, that I can agree with, but that caveat was not clear before.

The radios certainly couldn't have got more sensitive?

Well, there's two possibilities for ...

compuman81

I'm obviously not talking about normal operation.................. the system works as designed to provided there's a decent signal.

My post was regarding performance of my radios on the county wide trunked system talkgroups that run digital and as well as the conversations i have on simplex. Have ...

compuman81

As far as the audio quality improving, well , it has. Why?

Motorola has made advancements in the radio's ability to tear the bits off the air and provide an overall cleaner more accurate bitstream into the DVSI chip = more clarity. IMBE will always sound like IMBE.... the codec hasn't changed ( the ...

compuman81

Two questions:

1. What is required to have an XTS-5000 go from the old 512 channels to 850 channels? Just the newer CPS? Firmware upgrade? flashcode upgrade?

2. If a XTS-5000 has 850 channels & is upgraded to FPP< Does it still go back down to 250 channels?

If you upgrade it to FPP it will ...

compuman81

Anyway, it is pretty curious that USGOVTECH or whatever his name is hasn't replied. If it were me that was claiming to have such a radio, the first thing I'd do is send you guys as many pics of it as I could.

Yeah, but I'm sure his superiors would be displeased with him, seeing as he's http://www ...

compuman81

you're going to have to get someone that manages a trunked system that uses the ask's to program your radio or get him to lend you theirs, which is NEVER going to happen, unless well...you know.

i'm not sure what approach a motorola shop takes to these types of radios because many might not manage ...

compuman81

That may be irrelevant. Remote that trunking system since you don't need it. Add your own with your system key and then you'll be able to delete that one, since the RSS/CPS will not permit all the trunking systems in the codeplug to be deleted. Then you wo'nt have to worry about it.

compuman81

hah..if you think the fpp models are hard to program, you should see a codeplug from a radio with FPP and trunking..........

compuman81

Yeah .Could get ported to Palm, Pocket PC, Anything, I got java code. I ported it to my two cellphones and it's running however I basically quit posting the updates on here, I had a thread and it got locked down. Oh well.

Its really not that big of a deal to reverse it, i've had several people ask ...

compuman81

Ive got a CDM1550 That does 160 channels and no MDC, not too sure why, I didn't even think these existed. I don't know if its a CDM1550 LS+ or Regular or what, It just wont do MDC on Conventional

compuman81

may I ask, why do you have an IR remote in the car? LOL

compuman81

Good question,

If the FCC comes back as a 2500, it should be capable of doing upper 700 wouldn't you think?? That should indicate the RF board has the same specifications, and with an xts1500 flash, it should be able to do both bands. Maybe its just moto software limiting it. Just logical guessing.

compuman81

haha I just noticed I spelled redistribute wrong!

Look in your picture!

I think that means its bed time.

Goodnight

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