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RocketNJ

You can flash it through the CPS if you can get the upgrade from Motorola.
I'm not sure if you can get the Flash kit based upon that s/n. Not sure what the requirements would be when you place the order. You can always call and request a firmware refresh and see what info they require.

I'd have to ...

RocketNJ

Should be IMBE but be advised, that firmware is OLD. There have been many bug fixes since that version.

Ask your friend what the serial number is. I'll wager it is 123abc1234. Good luck getting a firmware refresh from Motorola on that radio.

If the radio is going to be used on a public safety ...

RocketNJ

Yes, you only need the CPS and programming cable. Contact your local Motorola rep to purchase Flashport upgrades.

George

RocketNJ

Why did you "get ripped"?

When you bought the radio MPL was not available as a feature. So you got what you paid for.

George

RocketNJ

You'll need newer versions of your programming software.

Time to break out the wallet and call Moto parts.

RocketNJ

If that is one of the "alpha" radios then the older retail software will not read it. Upgrade your CPS. Some people here stated the new CPS is capable of reading/writing to the "alpha" radios.

George

RocketNJ

I thought I remember seeing a PSB regarding this issue. A firmware update was the fix. A problem for the one you have.

Maybe someone here with access to the older PSBs can confirm.

George

RocketNJ

Sorry, I always and try to use the easy solution

RocketNJ

Out of curiosity, you stated the radio is legit. Have you tried calling the Motorola product group in FL?

I've never heard of the issue and have been around the 5000's for a couple of years now.

George

RocketNJ

if the personality is set up for PL rx and you do not have a PL defeat switch then the 5000 scans PL rx. At least mine do with version 5.00 host/dsp

RocketNJ

They may have issues with operation on 477 MHz as the VCO tends to roll off very quickly out of band. The range is 380 - 470 for the UHF low split.

Unless Mother M has SP'ed them.

George

RocketNJ

What system?

Check http://www.radioreference.com in the database. They've got a lot of trunked systems listed with proper information to get a scanner up and running.

George

RocketNJ

allplowedout wrote:FDNY uses a Windows variation of the RSS which is SP for them. Just thought that I'd add that.

I beg to differ. they use an SP version of the DOS programming software. There is NO CPS version for the 3500, release or SP.

George

RocketNJ

His mistake was using lab Astro software on an XTS3500. The Astro portable software WILL NOT program a 3500. The 3500 has it's own DOS based software.

The codeplug layout on a 3500 is dirrecert than the 3000.

George

RocketNJ

If your 3500 is corrupt the only way I know to fix it is to load in the s-record from that radio from BEFORE you tried to upgrade it.

The 3500 will not take a new codeplug or s-record like the 3000's.

If you don't have the original then you have two options.
a) trip to Moto to get repaired or
b ...

RocketNJ

You need to remember though the cost of a cellphone to a new subscriber is subsidized by the carrier since the subscriber is locked into a long term contract.

Try and get a $49 phone without a contract. Won't happen.

George

RocketNJ

as far as I know u cannot blow a new s-record or codeplug into a 3500 and change features, etc.. The 3500 differs from the 3000 and Astro Sabers.

George

RocketNJ

It defaults to 0 seconds (display clears when you stop receiving). You can adjust it to 7 seconds max in 1 second increments.

George

RocketNJ

Have you considered having an inbound coverage study done? This would involve measuring building penetration loss for the buildings you would want to cover then running coverage prediction software. That way you will have a good idea how many receiver sites you need. You might be able to cover the ...

RocketNJ

If you are a legit user you can call Motorola for assistance.

With that said, let's see if we can help you. Have you checked under Radio wide Display/Menu to see what the zone and channel spacing is set to? To Astro Spectra W3, W4, and W7's are limited to 8 characters. If the Zone is set to 5, then ...

RocketNJ

My local electrical supply house carries them.

George

RocketNJ

Kind of like asking "How much is a gallon of gas?"

Shops in different geographical areas charge different rates. Best bet is to get out the yellow pages and call some of your local shops.

George

RocketNJ

There is no way to have a user turn the channel announce feature on and off. Maybe use a different duplicate zone for that?

George

Just programmed a 5000 with Ch. Ann. and letting officers evaluate it. They like the feature but want to be able to turn it off and on. I haven't discovered if this ...

RocketNJ

No, the CPS for the 3k will NOT work with the 5k. You also need a new programming cable as the 5k uses a ribless cable.

Also the 5k has better receive and transmit specs than the 3k (better im rejection, rx sensity, etc).

You get what you pay for!

George

RocketNJ

South Plainfield is the PCS (cellular) group.

Glen Rock is the northeast sales office for 2 way.

George

RocketNJ

what version RSS are you using?

RocketNJ

The model number, host, and dsp do not look correct for an XTS3500 (unless I'm missing something).

Of the 3500's I've seen they've had host and dsp of version 1.20 and 1.21

Also as far as I know you cannot swap codeplugs on a 3500 like you can on the 3000's.

George

RocketNJ

Even though MODAT is in the list it is NOT supported on current XTS5000 firmware (rev 5.00 or older).

And FPP does not require a special battery, it just needs the proper level of firmware plus the proper flashcode. FPP is not compatible with the trunking option, conventional only.

George

RocketNJ

He would need an MTs2000 or GTX portable for 900.

Can you say handheld TrunkTracker?

George

RocketNJ

depends on what you are going to use the radio for. The 3500 does not support trunking (officially). The 5000 has an 8 meg vocon where the 3500 has a 1 meg, which means the 5000 is capable of more features.

George

RocketNJ

Should be the same cable

George

RocketNJ

Astro Spectra mobiles use the Astro Spectra CPS software (seperate from any ofd the portables or other mobile products). You also need the rib still.

George

RocketNJ

The FDNY UFA claimed that the incident in question demonstrated the inadequacy of the XTS3500s, concerning the procurement of which they were upset, but I'm told by a source I trust that the actual portable in the actual incident was an Astro Saber. (FDNY uses VHF for dispatch and UHF for ...

RocketNJ

Digital ID tx'd on keyup followed by analog modulation for voice transmissions. Quite fascinating if you've neer seen it, or know about the "fireground communications option"

Sorry to ask the obvious, but wouldn't that just be MDC? MDC is digital, with analog voice.

-M

No, MDC is analog ...

RocketNJ

From what I've read frem to Pocket PC readme from the CPS, you can read a radio and save to archive, wrirte an archive to the radio, clone radio to radio, or clone archive to radio. Also allows chaging of MDC and trunked ID, and Astro network ID.

It does not allow changing other trunking info or ...

RocketNJ

http://www.motorola.com/cgiss/fireground

Adds special signalling to the radio for the accountability feature of Fireground as well as the channel announce feature. You can associate a prerecorded file (orignially in wav format) to each channel in the radio.

George

RocketNJ

Trunking is not officially supported on the 3500.

I've seen one with a whored out code and it had a problem where it would randomly reboot when in scan. Another legit 3500 worked flawlessly.

George

RocketNJ

RF board is also different. The RX and TX sp[ecs on the 3500 are better than the 3000.

George

RocketNJ

APCO 25 is digital. You would need an XTL mobile or Astro Spectra Plus.

RocketNJ

A model 2 will not fully support FPP as you do not have the whole keypad to enter freqs, etc.

George

RocketNJ

I don't know where you are in NJ but if you want to go through an MSS you can try Wireless Electronics in south and central NJ or ESS in northern NJ. Both shops should be equipped to program 5000s.

George

RocketNJ

Can you read the radio with RSS?

Wonder if it was inhibited. That would give same condition.

George

RocketNJ

hit the bottom side (front) button 5 times after turning it on. (same as the XTS3k)

George

RocketNJ

Isn't that a Saber III model number and not an Astro Saber?

George

RocketNJ

The clear plastic is part of the case. It is not sold seperately,

George

RocketNJ

"...What is the price for just the voice announce enhancement?..."
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That's the great thing - there is no price for this feature - it's standard with Q806 digital.

If you already have radios that shipped with firmware / host older than the ...

RocketNJ

Latest update - channel announcement - I tried it - it works great!

You DO NOT need the fireground option on the XTS5000.

Maybe that was the original intent, but now it comes standard with the Q806 digital feature. The radio firmware and host must be R04.50.00 or newer.

That's good to know. We ...

RocketNJ

Here's a link to the Fireground system

http://www.motorola.com/cgiss/fireground.shtml

Our fire department had a demo of it. It is pretty slick.

George

RocketNJ

Nope, the Astro Spectra only has a 1 meg vocon. The XTS5000 has 8 meg, so it can hold the voice files. The Astro Spectra is ONLY used as an RF modem for the command post Fireground Accountability software). It is simply a way for the XTS to send status updates,etc to the software.

RocketNJ

The Astro Spectra is used an an RF modem for the Incident Management software. The software requires you go online to get a unlock key.

George

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