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by Elroy Jetson
Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:50 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Diference between two FPP types?
Replies: 8
Views: 782

Diference between two FPP types?

Q52 Federal Government FPP [ a25p ] Q53 FCC FPP And Radio Cloning [ a25p ] What is the difference between the capabilites of these two types of FPP? I understand (maybe incorrectly) that the Q53 version requires a dongle attachment like the JT1000's FPP programming key. I'd imagine that it's not req...
by Elroy Jetson
Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:28 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Tantalizing...
Replies: 11
Views: 1273

Re: Tantalizing...

I'm thinking in a far different direction, actually. The modem capabilities, Astro Data and such, are very interesting and can be useful in and of themselves, but as you know, my particular bias is toward exploring the radio and what it can do that Mother M doesn't want you to do with it. The CPS is...
by Elroy Jetson
Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:37 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Tantalizing...
Replies: 11
Views: 1273

Tantalizing...

I'm going to give you this tantalizing little gift...


The XTS5000 will respond to certain modem commands if you hook it up and bring up HyperTerminal.


AT E1

AT&V

AT I1
AT I2
AT I3
AT I4
AT I5

That's all you get for now.


Have fun!
by Elroy Jetson
Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:35 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: SSE5000 - Astro Saber R????
Replies: 33
Views: 3626

Re: SSE5000 - Astro Saber R????

I had to open my 5K and look inside to see the answer. It's been so long since I've last looked in one that I couldn't remember.

No way are you going to stuff real 5K boards into that SSE frame. It's a totally custom product.

Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:59 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: SSE5000 - Astro Saber R????
Replies: 33
Views: 3626

Re: SSE5000 - Astro Saber R????

Item Number. NNTN4467A HOUSING KIT MII BLK SSE5000 $171.15 Item Number. 6881094C12 MAN,SRV,SSE5000 SRV MAN $32.50 Those are the prices I'd pay via my Moto account. Maybe others can get them for less. I wonder...if this is essentially an XTS in a different case, if you could get a frame with control ...
by Elroy Jetson
Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:55 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: SSE5000 - Astro Saber R????
Replies: 33
Views: 3626

Re: SSE5000 - Astro Saber R????

It'd be interesting to get your hands on the service manual for one and see what parts for it are orderable.


I wouldn't mind having a non-working display model, just for grins.


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:22 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Astro Saber write/read failure due to frame/control top?
Replies: 2
Views: 267

Re: Astro Saber write/read failure due to frame/control top?

Flex circuits have a limited lifespan, particularly if they get flexed a lot. They should properly be called "Flex ONCE circuits". I remember practically beating a hole in a poured concrete wall, using the most handy blunt instrument available, which was my head, trying to resurrect my fir...
by Elroy Jetson
Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:44 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan
Replies: 93
Views: 11698

Re: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan

Cool, thanks for the info. I'm trying to learn how OBT Astro systems are put together. It gets kind of different when you've got both trunked talkgroup and digital talkgroup options BOTH to deal with. I'd imagine it can become one big hairy deal to figure out. I understand conventional Astro systems...
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:32 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Frequency picklists. Does anyone use them?
Replies: 6
Views: 714

Re: Frequency picklists. Does anyone use them?

I'm referring to the Astro software, not the Astro25 software. I 'm using Astro Sabers, not XTS5Ks. I'll explore the picklists further and see how to make them work for me. I'd like to have the marine channels and amateur repeaters for various states and areas set up as picklists that I can grab and...
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:16 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Frequency picklists. Does anyone use them?
Replies: 6
Views: 714

Frequency picklists. Does anyone use them?

I've played around a little bit with frequency picklists and frankly I have to wonder if anyone actually uses them. While the general concept isn't bad, in fact, it's not too far off of the way that data for various agencies is stored in the Ericsson/GE/M/A-Com/Harris ProGrammer radio software, its ...
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:14 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan
Replies: 93
Views: 11698

Re: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan

It is a five site system, SmartZone, but I'm not sure if it's simulcast or not.

It's the KSC/CCAFS UHF low range system that's in the database.


Out of curiosity, what is the standard tx/rx offset on UHF lowband trunking systems, anyway?


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:00 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan
Replies: 93
Views: 11698

Re: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan

Host R07.71.06 and DSP I08.03.05, very current.

Today the radio's picking up voices a lot better than last night. I have no idea why. I haven't changed the programming.

I'll be putting the radio through alignment today anyway. Maybe that'll help.


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:42 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan
Replies: 93
Views: 11698

Re: Scanning ASTRO25 systems in talkgroup scan

I'm attempting to scan a UHF low .gov trunking Astro system in CONVENTIONAL Astro mode. Since the system has a very low traffic level and uses transmission trunking, it'll work as well as if I had an authorized trunking radio on the system, I think. Almost never will two conversations be going on at...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:26 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: New 09 Control Head!
Replies: 44
Views: 2273

Re: New 09 Control Head!

I've been saying for years that GM (or Ford, or any company that wants the police/fleet vehicle market) should work with the major public safety radio vendors (Motorola and what's now Harris) to pre-build the cars so that equipment installation for fleet users is dead simple, plug and play. Create s...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:50 am
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Traps and pitfalls: Things not to do while programming.
Replies: 3
Views: 575

Re: Traps and pitfalls: Things not to do while programming.

Well...I've done that exactly on an Astro Saber. It's how I found that trap.

Maybe it was fixed in a later release, but it is something to watch out for.


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:21 am
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Traps and pitfalls: Things not to do while programming.
Replies: 3
Views: 575

Traps and pitfalls: Things not to do while programming.

Feel free to add things to this list that you've discovered. It could turn into a handy little guide to newbies, with a little work. If programming a radio with both trunking and conventional zones in it, and you're going to use the rotary selector for zone selection, be very sure that you program t...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:10 pm
Forum: Test Equipment & RF Equipment Alignment
Topic: I/Q modulation alignment tools?
Replies: 3
Views: 371

Re: I/Q modulation alignment tools?

That's the kind of information I'm looking for. I really think that these days, EVERY service monitor should have a good general purpose I/Q monitor in it. With digital radios becoming more commonplace every day, it's only reasonable. I recently submitted a detailed evaluation of the G-D R8000 to G-...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:25 pm
Forum: Test Equipment & RF Equipment Alignment
Topic: I/Q modulation alignment tools?
Replies: 3
Views: 371

I/Q modulation alignment tools?

Is anyone here aware of any AFFORDABLE service aids which will allow the technician to measure I/Q balance on any given digital radio, which is NOT platform specific? I have multi brands of P25 CAI portable and mobile radios and apparently one or two of them are slightly out on their I/Q balance and...
by Elroy Jetson
Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:21 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: PC-based DPL decoder software??
Replies: 2
Views: 754

PC-based DPL decoder software??

Does anyone know of a PC-based software package that will decode and identify DPL codes out of an audio stream, input to the PC via the line input on the sound card? I've found some interesting and genuinely useful software that I use regularly on my test bench to assist in testing radios, including...
by Elroy Jetson
Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:41 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Saber Secure I 403-433MHz - a few questions
Replies: 25
Views: 1790

Re: Saber Secure I 403-433MHz - a few questions

Yeah, you probably need a new PA module. But fortunately they should be dirt cheap in that bandsplit.

Sabers should not run hot unless you're transmitting a great deal. In receive they should never warm up to any noticeable degree.


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:53 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Saber Secure I 403-433MHz - a few questions
Replies: 25
Views: 1790

Re: Saber Secure I 403-433MHz - a few questions

WARNING!!! DO NOT PUSH THE RADIO OUT OF THE HOUSING BY PUSHING ON THE STUDS FROM THE BOTTOM!!!! This can, and does, cause the threaded stud to push out of the frame. Instead, loosen the nuts, grab the antenna, and PULL the radio out of the housing. The 403-430 split UHF Saber won't go into the 440 r...
by Elroy Jetson
Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:16 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: DTMF page/private call not working on Spectra
Replies: 2
Views: 313

Re: DTMF page/private call not working on Spectra

Zack08 wrote:Does your spectra have the DTMF decoder board installed? (HLN6151A)




:o




...Oh....I knew it had to be something simple. :lol:



Anyone got a spare hanging around? 8)



Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:25 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: DTMF page/private call not working on Spectra
Replies: 2
Views: 313

DTMF page/private call not working on Spectra

I'm trying to get the DTMF page/private call feature working on a VHF Spectra.

If anyone has successfully configured this to work, would you be so kind as to reveal your configuration?


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:10 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?
Replies: 13
Views: 1543

Re: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?

I'd say you're probably making full quieting on them even when you can't hear their signal at all. :D


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:34 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?
Replies: 13
Views: 1543

Re: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?

I guess I'm just perfectly happy with a measly 150 watts. :) I'm not worried about actually doing the higher power mods, but I'm a bit curious as to how it would usually be done. The coverage area I'm getting off this setup is already pretty darned impressive. Simplex range, base to mobile radio, is...
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:36 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?
Replies: 13
Views: 1543

Re: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?

What I do with my own personal equipment is not necessarily the same thing I'd do with a customer's equipment. If a customer has a 110 watt rated mobile radio, I'll tune to 110 watts and no more. I'll tune down if his range and performance requirements allow it. But for my own stuff, particularly wh...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun May 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?
Replies: 13
Views: 1543

Re: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?

Please understand that I'm a trained professional radio technician engaged in the business full time. I operate within all FCC regulations on frequencies that I am authorized to operate on, and only those. I'm also an amateur radio operator and some of the channels in the radio are within the 2 mete...
by Elroy Jetson
Fri May 29, 2009 12:33 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?
Replies: 13
Views: 1543

Re: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?

I know there are some people running them at 225 watts or better, reliably. And X9000s are cheap these days. I'm not going to cry if I roast a PA stage in the quest for insane power levels. I can replace the drawer unit in minutes if need be. Running a slight overvoltage at 14.8 volts DC, I'm gettin...
by Elroy Jetson
Thu May 28, 2009 6:31 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?
Replies: 13
Views: 1543

X9000 VHF, how to crank up the power out?

I'm using a VHF Syntor X9000 as a base station at the shop now. Common sense be hanged, I want to see how far out I can crank up the PA output on it. I've already got a very clean 150 watts out of it and it doesn't even seem to care, and I've heard that 225 or maybe even 250 watts is possible out of...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun May 24, 2009 5:27 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra encryption module info requested
Replies: 2
Views: 306

Re: Spectra encryption module info requested

Very good. Thank you for pointing that out. I'd missed the specific document I needed to look at, the first time I looked at those articles.


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Sun May 24, 2009 4:28 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra encryption module info requested
Replies: 2
Views: 306

Spectra encryption module info requested

I'm learning my way around the Spectra radio, or should I say, RE-learning it. There's a lot I've forgotten, and a lot more that frankly I never knew as my last time with a Spectra of my own was fairly brief as it had capacitor plague and didn't last long. This time around I've got another VHF high ...
by Elroy Jetson
Sat May 16, 2009 1:50 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project
Replies: 14
Views: 923

Re: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project

That's too bad, because I think an X9000 is a substantially more rugged platform than a high power Spectra, but my installation in my car uses an A7 head which is a perfect in-dash fit right below the CD player/radio. The smaller heads are all the same outline size as a standard DIN radio package, s...
by Elroy Jetson
Fri May 15, 2009 8:29 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project
Replies: 14
Views: 923

Re: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project

225 watts? That's INSANE! It's also got to be near a record for a VHF mobile radio! Until now, the most I'd heard of is that the old GE Rangr VHF radios could often be turned up to 160 watts. I have a VHF Rangr that I want to put into service. Or I did...I can't find it. I'm really starting to think...
by Elroy Jetson
Mon May 11, 2009 7:47 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project
Replies: 14
Views: 923

Re: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project

Yes, a smoother, flatter surface will improve heat transfer by means of a thinner film of heat sinking compound,
and I can achieve a fine smooth flat machined surface with my equipment, no problem.


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Mon May 11, 2009 5:01 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project
Replies: 14
Views: 923

Re: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project

Do you recall what the published duty cycle specs are for the high power Spectras? 5/5/90, I believe. Certainly it wasn't more than 10/10/80. That's way too little for a 15 minute QSO at a 50 percent TX duty cycle or a half hour round table at 25 percent. It seems to me that the Motorola engineers s...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun May 10, 2009 7:15 pm
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Hack to program a Spectra on a splinter channel?
Replies: 1
Views: 361

Hack to program a Spectra on a splinter channel?

One channel I need to program into a Spectra is a splinter channel, falling halfway between the 5 KHz channel increments that Spectra software allows.

Does anyone have a hack that'll allow me to get this done?

Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Sun May 10, 2009 2:44 pm
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project
Replies: 14
Views: 923

Re: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project

I'm going to mill the heatsinks off from the OUTSIDE. I checked and the depth of the fins is uniform, so I should be able to clean up the entire heat sink area without even being forced to remove the PA devices, if I wanted to do it that way. The non-flat internal mounting pads for the PA devices sh...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun May 10, 2009 9:58 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project
Replies: 14
Views: 923

Re: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project

Yeah, I should properly call them high power drawer units. A9 is a misnomer but as it's usually associated with the high power remote models, I guess it gets the meaning across. I run fairly high duty cycles as the radio is in amateur radio service, and QSOs can run pretty long sometimes. I'm also c...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun May 10, 2009 8:57 am
Forum: General Motorola Solutions & Legacy Radio Discussion
Topic: Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project
Replies: 14
Views: 923

Spectra A9 cooling upgrade project

Since I have a milling machine and am looking for projects to keep it busy, I've decided to address the cooling problem that A9 Spectras seem to all share. If you've ever had one you know how hot they get if you're transmitting very much. Their heatsinking is inadequate for their power output. I've ...
by Elroy Jetson
Sat May 02, 2009 11:39 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: "SAFE" scanning of a Moto trunked system, revisited
Replies: 3
Views: 405

"SAFE" scanning of a Moto trunked system, revisited

I don't claim ownership of this one, but there is yet ANOTHER way to use a Motorola trunked portable radio as a trunked scanner, SAFELY. It's so simple, it's a wonder that we haven't used this method since the days of the STX. Simply drop the TX deviation (including and especially the data deviation...
by Elroy Jetson
Fri May 01, 2009 8:20 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: VOCON repair swap on Astro Saber, info needed.
Replies: 1
Views: 177

VOCON repair swap on Astro Saber, info needed.

I'v got a surplus Astro Saber vocon board that's not useful to me as it sits, being as it's set up for 800 MHz. But it's a perfectly good board. I've got a VHF Astro Saber that has a bad VOCON board. It goes to self test, the green LED stays on, the display goes blank, repeat. I'm thinking there mig...
by Elroy Jetson
Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:31 pm
Forum: Vehicle Radio Installs
Topic: DIN mounting kit for Spectra control heads?
Replies: 1
Views: 967

DIN mounting kit for Spectra control heads?

The remote Spectra control heads (Other than the W9 type) are essentially a standard single space DIN size, and with this in mind I realized that if I just had the right mounting kit, I could install a Spectra control head right in my dash underneath the radio, which right now is just a spare change...
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:44 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: I need a compact UHF receiver radio.
Replies: 6
Views: 305

I need a compact UHF receiver radio.

I have a need for compact UHF receiver radios. I have a customer that has a need to monitor no less than THIRTY separate UHF channels at the same time, as part of a UHF-linked voted repeater system. Who makes such an item? High density rack mountable receivers operating in the 450-470 MHz range, wit...
by Elroy Jetson
Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:32 am
Forum: Radio Programming
Topic: Radius CM200 programming cable? Substitution?
Replies: 2
Views: 761

Radius CM200 programming cable? Substitution?

Does anyone know if any other Motorola programming cables can be substituted to program a Radius CM200 mobile radio? The radio programs through the mic connector (RJ-45 modular telephone style jack) so I'm wondering if maybe a Maxtrac cable might work. Would anyone here happen to know the answer to ...
by Elroy Jetson
Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:41 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTS5000 multicolored knob backlights?
Replies: 10
Views: 571

Re: XTS5000 multicolored knob backlights?

Incorrect. You've apparently never seen the LEDs that are used here. They're a siamese twin LED. Four terminations, two per LED. It's the same as two SMT LEDs side by side, but in a single package. Turn around one of these LEDs and it won't work, it'll be hooked up backwards. I'll simply install pai...
by Elroy Jetson
Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:59 pm
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTS5000 multicolored knob backlights?
Replies: 10
Views: 571

Re: XTS5000 multicolored knob backlights?

The TX light itself can be red or green in operation, but I've never yet seen the channel backlights be anything but green, though the LEDs used are dual independent red/greens in one package. Motorola must have designed the backlights to be able to change color if there was a need for it. I guess t...
by Elroy Jetson
Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:59 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTS5000 multicolored knob backlights?
Replies: 10
Views: 571

XTS5000 multicolored knob backlights?

I'm about to do a custom paintjob on an XTS5000 case, and also change the color of the knob backlight LEDs to blue. Having taken apart the housing and with all the guts laid out before me, I observe that the LEDs used to backlight the controls are a red/green combo type. I'm not aware of any options...
by Elroy Jetson
Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:19 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTS5000 colored keypad overlays?
Replies: 4
Views: 451

Re: XTS5000 colored keypad overlays?

Yeah, I think that's it.

The auctions are easy. XTS 5000 takes you right to them.


I wouldn't ever trust a 0 feedback seller to be honest about having those radios.


Elroy
by Elroy Jetson
Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:09 am
Forum: Legacy Batboard Motorola ASTRO (VSELP/IMBE/AMBE) Equipment Forum
Topic: XTS5000 colored keypad overlays?
Replies: 4
Views: 451

XTS5000 colored keypad overlays?

There's a guy on ebay (with a feedback rating of zero) selling new in the box XTS5000s. Personally I won't buy big ticket items from a zero feedback seller. But, picture in the package are red and blue keypad overlays...I think. What's the part number for those overlays, if anyone knows? I like to d...
by Elroy Jetson
Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:28 pm
Forum: Base Stations, Repeaters, General Infrastructure
Topic: Centracom CEB...who knows this stuff?
Replies: 13
Views: 1311

Re: Centracom CEB...who knows this stuff?

Last post in December of last year.

It's long gone, of course.


Elroy

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