Unhappy saber owner

Post by **bradlington** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:08 pm

Hi All
After so long I am still battling with my saber2 / mx2000 radio and the error02 message.
Several comments of try this and that but no-one can offer any remedy.Please if anyone has reflashed this radio back from this error code please could you be kind enough to assist me.Imported the radio and now sit with a brick.
Need prog software used , aswell as the type of computer setup and spec.
Thanks in advance.
Brad node 8300

N9LLO · Post by **N9LLO** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:24 am

I have one PC that will read Sabers fine but will always brick it when I write to the radio. Try build up a new codeplug from scratch and try another pc to program it in. Something like an old 486 with internal cache disabled.

Chris

Post by **bradlington** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:55 am

Thanks for the reply-exactly what happenned to me-read ok but when I changed a frequency it programmed ok into a brick.

I have tried from scratch but no difference.
Regards

Brad

k4wtf · Post by **k4wtf** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:44 am

Sabers are picky. It's kinda hard to completely kill one though so, all is not lost. Get your programming platform in order and you'll get rid of the error code.

If all else fails and you can't find a stable programming platform, you can always send the radio to me or someone else who has a good stable programming platform and we can un-brick the radio for you. Might be kinda expensive from S.A. though.

John

Post by **bradlington** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:34 am

Hi
I have resd that the lengh of the cable from the rib (original rib being used) can cause problems with some motorola models -my cable is about 1 meter-perhaps I will shorten it.

Regards
Brad

jnglmassiv · Post by **jnglmassiv** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:24 pm

Like the others have said, the problem probably is with the computer you are using to write the radi with. Have you access to another, perhap slower machine?
One meter doesn't seem particularly long for a rib-to-radio cable.

Post by **bradlington** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:52 pm

Hi

Using the msd command in dos I have the following setup:

Amaerican Megatrend 80386
Memeory 640k , 3072 ext
1984k XMS

MS-DOS ver 5.00

Bios Ver V3.128
Processor 80386
Bus type ISA/AT/Classic Bus
DMA Controller :YES
Cascaded IRQ2 :YES

Not sure what else is needed to confirm my setup should be able to program the saber / mx2000.

Any comments?
Brad

Post by **bradlington** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:21 pm

I have been using the mx1000 ver.2.00 field service software for the mx2000 which as far as I am aware should work.

regards
brad

Post by **bradlington** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:42 pm

Hi All

Thanks for the continued support-I have finally after 18 months come right-found that I had used the Astro saber programming pins which take pin 3 from radio to pin 6 of rib instead of pin 8 of the rib.Have programmed and read radio several times.
Still need to hex edit software to allow 430-440 operation.
Thanks again to all.
Brad

Kind regards

jnglmassiv · Post by **jnglmassiv** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:06 pm

Glad it worked out. That would have been a hard problem to diagnose here on the forums.

Good luck getting down to 430! You'll need it!

Post by **bradlington** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:08 am

Hi All
I agree that a simple mistake has cost me 18 months of frustration.
I imported the radio and these are not used in this country so I was alone on this one and not even Motorola local could advise or help.
I still need to get the correct pins of the battery layout to make a charger for it .
My next project are the 3 jedi series radios that are to be returned from "brick"status.
Thanks again to all for the mental assurence.
Bradley Glen

oh2glg · Post by **oh2glg** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:10 pm

Hello all on the board,

Writing for the first time here I must say that the amount of information on this board is REALLY overwhelming!

I've been reading this and few other threads with similar topics, since I have quite the same case on my hand.. Well, only thing different this time is that I got this saber just few weeks ago and tried to program new freqs to it today.

In my case, I have UHF Saber II-R, 120ch 403-433MHz.

The codeplug was read by Saber RSS R07.01.00 nicely with no problems. I saved it on the disk just in case.

After I modified the original codeplug (changed frequencies etc) and tried to send it back to Saber, it went sour.

Now it says "ERR 0 81" on the display, battery indicator is blinking and that's about all it does.

Now when I try to re-read codeplug from the radio, RSS warns few times during transfer that there's parity errors on CORE- and COPE-processors memory.

I also tried to create new RPF from scratch, but it didn't manage to correct it. Nothing changed.

Only thing I didn't check yet, if the cable is for Saber instead of Astro Saber, since it's loaned it from a friend. And after reading the two last posts on this thread I'm quite convinced that the cable is worth checking for correct connection.

Oh, by the way: Since this unit is for bandsplit 403-433, it is not unexpected that the RSS will complain if any of the frequencies are above 434.000 MHz. Is there any other way to work around it than modifying the channel data file directly with an editor?

Jussi OH2GLG

Post by **wavetar** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:33 am

Well, you did the first step correctly...you saved a copy of the codeplug! What are the specs for your computer? I've come to find the Sabers are one radio which can read fine on most set-ups, but can corrupt when written to on the same set-up. It's very possible you'll have to 'step down' to an older system in order to successfully program the known good codeplug back into the radio.

Todd

oh2glg · Post by **oh2glg** » Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:45 am

wavetar wrote:What are the specs for your computer? I've come to find the Sabers are one radio which can read fine on most set-ups, but can corrupt when written to on the same set-up. It's very possible you'll have to 'step down' to an older system in order to successfully program the known good codeplug back into the radio.

Todd

Well, it is an older model Compaq laptop, but I really can not recall its model on processor speed right now, since it's at my workplace.

However, it is a 486-based slow thing, using MS-DOS 6.22 as an operating system. It has been used as a programming computer for other models as well (Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, TP-Radio and other Motorolas like GP300)

I'm afraid that it's still too fast for Saber flashing anyway.

Well, I'll look into it on Monday. Unless I'm not able to get this computer slower, it might be useless for this. Only problem is, that it's really the slowest PC I have in my hands an the moment

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