MT2000 Scan Programming, DRIVING ME NUTS!!

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:19 pm

I got a MT2000 here that i am trying to program, i got all the conventional personalities programmed in, assigned them to zones and channels, everything works fine except the GOD DAMN SCAN...

Here is what happens....

I went into the scan lists and set one up for user programmable scan and added the first 15 channels in the radio to the list. I programmed the concentric switch on the channel select to scan program in position B, and i programmed the green button on the side for scan. This is a top display no keypad model.

I then went back to the conventional personalities list and set them all to scan list 1.

Programmed the radio and everything seemed fine, the radio transmits and receives but won't scan. Tried putting it in user program mode and that worked, selected and unselected channels using the green button on the side, that worked. Then flipped the concentric switch back to normal and then pushed the green button for scan. It looks like its scanning, the display shows the Z symbol on the left side, but if i transmit with another radio on any of the channels on the scan list NADA.. It's not scanning i guess.

So i set it aside for a second to look at the list i used to program it and the radio started to emit a solid tone. I shut it off and turned it back on, still a tone after about 30 seconds. I put it back on the RIB and read it, set the scan list assignment on all the personalities to NONE and then programmed it again, now its running fine, no tone and its been on for about ten minutes.

Anyone know how to make the scan work on this bastard??

Please dont tell me to search the board, i have been doing that since about 1pm today. Tried everything in every post and it just does the same thing.

Post by **Grog** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:28 pm

I'll soon have a top display 2000 myself, if anything pops up, I'll hope you have your figured out already

Edit... I thought you could not program a top display no keypad for user programmable scan? I might have read that wrong when I looked....

NSPD · Post by **NSPD** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:35 pm

If you are getting a continous tone after about 30 seconds, it means the radio is still in scan program mode. On a front display model Scan Program mode usually has a square box on the screen, but on a top display model the regular "Z" will show up in program mode.

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:37 pm

But i turned off the user scan program and it still does the constant tone.

Even if i dont set it for user programmable scan and put in a static list it still does this crap.

I guess this radio can't be programmed for scan.

NSPD · Post by **NSPD** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:38 pm

PM sent

Jim2121 · Post by **Jim2121** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:45 pm

In Scan rss your channel numbers are: 1,2,3,4, ect.... not all one's?
And Personality numbers are also 1,2,3,4, correct?
and your 1st. scan list for the first 14 channels In Conventional Personalty are "scan list 1" as you said
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I'm just trying to put this picture together
Also sending PM..........

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:07 pm

Yep, Yep, and Yep..

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:38 pm

Well unless anyone else has any ideas??

I put it in user scan program with the switch and i can set everything the way i want it, but when i flip the switch back it wont exit the programming mode and just goes to the solid tone and i have to reprogram the radio to get rid of it again.

Anyone know why its not exiting the user program mode????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Post by **Grog** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:52 pm

Maybe this is why I read that you can't use user programmable scan on that config?

Has anyone else had it work ok?

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:57 pm

Ok, i got the scan list to work for zone one, but if i set user programmable scan then it kills the radio when i program it, it just turns on in user program mode and stays in it.

It would appear that the top display model is not capable of user programmable scan.

I just created a scan list for each zone and that seems to be working fine.

muggsy09 · Post by **muggsy09** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:06 pm

I have my MTS2000 top display set up for user prog. scan.
SB1 (blue)- Nus. Delete
SB2 (black)- Mon.
SB3 (black) scan on/off

Switch below channel knob- Scan Prog.

Mine is working fine, and I can program scan no problem.

You may have some kind of hardware issue. ??????

NSPD · Post by **NSPD** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:07 pm

The top display *IS* capable, since I used to have an A4 that did it, but i'm starting to think it could bea firmware issue? What's the firmware on the radio?

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:14 pm

Well this one won't do it, it only lets you set the user programmable scan mode to the concentric switch under the channel select and on the side the button options are very slim.

I ended up setting the green one to scan, the next one to nuisance delete, and the last one to monitor.

Firmware version is who the heck knows.. lol.. Seriously, i don't know. Where do you find that? The radio is packed in a box right now.

Post by **Grog** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:39 pm

kb0nly wrote:
The radio is packed in a box right now.

If it decides to leave home, let me know. It could come to live with me

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:59 pm

Sorry its not mine, just programming it for someone else.

It operates and scans really nice, but user programmable scan is not possible on it. I tried it a few more times after i got it working on the static scan lists in RSS. If you set ANYTHING to user programmable for the scan the radio starts up with the Z symbol on the display then after about 30 seconds it goes to that solid tone.

It repeatable, so its not something intermittent or a bad codeplug, i tried a couple other backed up codeplugs and still the same problem, so i put the original codeplug back in and programmed a scan list for each zone, works like a champ.

Post by **Grog** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:04 pm

Can't blame a brotha' for tryin'

I've decided to jump into the jedi scene, so we'll see how many question I ask in the new 6 months

Jim2121 · Post by **Jim2121** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:31 pm

The firmware ver. will show up when you put it into service mode (pressing the side button above the PTT 5 times right after you power the radio up and it goes through self test)
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then if my memory is right the firmware is not upgradeable?
VHF/UHF
and not FLASHport capable. MSS has to do that....

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:47 pm

Ahh ok.. Well if i have to pull it back out to change anything else i will check that. Right now its wrapped up in bubble wrap and sitting in a box awaiting shipment.

All i can say is that all MT2000's must not be created alike. This thread got a LOT of pm's in my inbox. Out of about 20 pm's over half of them said they have the same problem, program it as user programmable scan and the radio pukes after 30 seconds from powerup.

Lake Effect · Post by **Lake Effect** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:38 am

You have the 2 position switch set for user program scan in one position. What is the other position of this switch? I recall having similar problems once and the other position was set to "unprogrammed". I found there was a big difference between "unprogrammed" and "blank". Just a thought.

L.E.

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:49 am

I tried setting the second position to unprogrammed, blank, pl disable, tx inhibit, and whatever else it gave me as an option, thinking that maybe that was the problem since there isnt a disable scan program setting or anything like that.

On this radio i don't have the option to set any of the side buttons for scan program, so i have no idea how others are able to do that, but it doesnt give me the option.

Post by **wavetar** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:58 am

kb0nly wrote: On this radio i don't have the option to set any of the side buttons for scan program, so i have no idea how others are able to do that, but it doesnt give me the option.

I'd say you have an early firmware issue, judging by the above.

Todd

Jim2121 · Post by **Jim2121** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:52 pm

Lake Effect wrote:You have the 2 position switch set for user program scan in one position. What is the other position of this switch? I recall having similar problems once and the other position was set to "unprogrammed". I found there was a big difference between "unprogrammed" and "blank". Just a thought.

L.E.

Interesting point L.E. ! I have a 160ch. front display, full-keypad MT2000
My ABC switch = A=Scan, B= blank (but is for repeater use, with/without PL. works fine) C= Talkaround. If I were to change B from Blank to "Unprogrammed" then "B" don't work. but, that does not help this man!
jim

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:05 pm

I checked the firmware its R02.04 when i press that button five times.

I solved the scan problem! I used a newer version of RSS, V06.07 and that seemed to cure it. On the older version i had when i set the concentric switch to scan program in one position and blank in the other it would stay on scan program regardless.

After programming it with the same switch setting using the newer RSS it worked just find and now the user scan program works!

Jim2121 · Post by **Jim2121** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:14 pm

now you can throw away the box & bubble wrap ..... you have a working radio. with scan...

kb0nly · Post by **kb0nly** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:17 pm

I wish, but its still not my radio!! lol

Now it will just make its owner really happy. Just for the record, the version i had was prior to v06.00.00, it was old!

Post by **Grog** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:53 am

kb0nly wrote: Just for the record, the version i had was prior to v06.00.00, it was old!

If we're having a contest, I am looking at

MTSX RVN4097K R04.00.00 15JAN96

Do I win?

(I guess I should use MTSX RVN4097U R06.07.00 14NOV2002 on mine

)

Medic137 · Post by **Medic137** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:18 am

kb0nly wrote:I wish, but its still not my radio!! lol

Now it will just make its owner really happy. Just for the record, the version i had was prior to v06.00.00, it was old!

Thanks KB0NLY !!!

I can't wait to start playing with it.

Sorry about burning up your laptop. Hope you got the smoke out of the house.