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Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

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Leadenwah
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Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby Leadenwah » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:25 am

Does anyone have practical experience with "Conditioning " Chargers?
Specifically, I am considering one for Jedi Batteries, many of which
are not very old, but seem to have some memory effect.

It seems that Motorola sells these, but I'm also interested in any
3rd party or aftermarket conditioning charger which others have
found useful.

Will appreciate any and all thoughts.

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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby N4KVE » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:27 am

I am charging a Jedi battery right now on an Advance Tec conditioning charger. I've been using these things for about 10 years. The newer models have adaptors that can be changed for different batteries. I am very happy with them & batteries can be charged anytime without any worry of memory effect. I have seen these same chargers with the Motorola name on them. I've only purchased one from the company in North Miami. Over the years I've bought 8 or 10 more at Hamfests & Ebay for $10 or less. Since they work on 12 volts with a wall wart, they can work in a car with the correct adapter. These work perfectly for nicads or nimh. Not lion. GARY N4KVE

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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby fineshot1 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:38 am

In our shop we use a Cadex C7000 Analyzer & Conditioner with the Jedi adapter cups and it does work great on
some batteries but if a NiCad or NiMH battery is in bad enough condition your better off sending them to the
recycle bin. For after market jedi battery suppliers we use the Interstate RAD1840 which seems to be an ok
battery but I really do like the original moto jedi batts the best.
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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby Will » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:02 pm

I will second N4KVE's comments on the Advance Tec chargers. I use a lot of them out here, and they work very well.
I get them from Motorola cheaper than dealer cost from A T.

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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby Leadenwah » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:33 pm

Thanks for this helpful information..

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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby WB6NVH » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:08 pm

There seems to be a conflict of information because the battery manufacturers want you to believe that memory effect no longer exists with modern batteries, while the conditioner manufacturers want you to think it does.

My experience has been that maybe if you use the conditioner regularly, it will work well for you. For me, by the time I notice some issues with a battery, it's already too late and nothing helps. Cutting them open reveals white powder around the vents and ends.

Too bad that modern batteries are short lived junk, partially because necessary chemicals are considered haz-mat and have been taken out of them. Back decades ago, we would get years out of a Motorola branded HT-200 battery. In fact, I was still using some 1965 dated batteries in the late 1970's! Now, I am lucky to get a year out of any of the modern radio batteries, and far less than that on the off-brands.

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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby OCSD117 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:07 pm

Three words:

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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby Stage 2 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:08 am

I found this "ancient" topic while researching the possibility of picking up an Advance Tech conditioning charger for my Jedi batteries as they are available new for a relatively low cost.

It appears that one respondent above confirmed my suspicion that Advance Tech actually made the Conditioner that Motorola sold under it's name after seeing what appeared to be the identical item/packaging with a Motorola name listed as part of an ebay auction.

I also noted the mention of an Impress charger instead.

Under the premise of simply wanting to keep my batteries in good operating condition for occasional use, what do the in-house experts here recommend (Conditioner vs Impress) and why?

Thanks in advance to all.
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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby fineshot1 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:34 am

Stage 2 wrote:Under the premise of simply wanting to keep my batteries in good operating condition for occasional use, what do the in-house experts here recommend (Conditioner vs Impress) and why?

Thanks in advance to all.


Impress chargers do condition a battery if the analyzing results require it.
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Re: Are Conditioning Chargers (Jedi Batteries) Worthwhile?

Postby N4KVE » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:06 am

I still prefer to use my AdvanceTec/Motorola charger vs an Impres charger/battery. The conditioning charger pulses the battery, & you can leave the battery on charge forever even though fully charged. In my case, for my older radios where I buy cheap non Impres batteries, I use the AdvanceTec/Motorola charger. But for my APX/XTS radios, where I use Impres batteries, I use an Impres charger. I also can use my AdvanceTec chargers in my car. GARY


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